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Old Jul 9, 2017, 11:09 am
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This is community help desk which allows members to assist each other in finding out how many seats are available on any given flight.

If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.

Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.


As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.

Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed and probably unauthorised (so buyer beware)


What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...

This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.

There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.

2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.


What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.

The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.


Differences for non-BA airlines
  • Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
  • Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
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Old Apr 6, 2018, 5:49 am
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Originally Posted by Darren Clark
Hi All,

Could someone please check

7/4/18 LHR - ORD BA297 for me please.
F1 A0 J8 C0 D0 R0 I0 W9 E0 T0 Y9 B7
H4 K2 M2 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G9
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Old Apr 6, 2018, 5:50 am
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Originally Posted by SpeedBird132
Hi All

Would greatly appreciate it if someone could check:

BA 132 JED - LHR 08/04/18

Thank you in advance.
F3 A2 J7 C3 D3 R0 I0 W5 E0 T0 Y3 B0
H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
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Old Apr 6, 2018, 5:50 am
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Old Apr 6, 2018, 6:50 am
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Originally Posted by Lucanesque
Here you go...

BA 6 NRT
16/04/18 12:55LHR
16/04/18 17:20789
Daily
84% / 28mF1 A0 J2 C0 D0 R0 I0 W0 E0 T0 Y0 B0
H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0

BA 8 HND
16/04/18 8:50LHR
16/04/18 13:10777
Daily
93% / 25mF2 A1 J4 C1 D0 R0 I0 W0 E0 T0 Y0 B0
H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0

Thank you you so much your answer.
Just one more question.
This is first time to use BA. do they upgrade the pax to Business class for waiting staff??
Thank you so much.
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Old Apr 6, 2018, 7:01 am
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Grateful if someone could check:

LGW-SKB BA2157 2 May 18
SKB-LGW BA2256 9 May 18

thanks in advance
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Old Apr 6, 2018, 7:11 am
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Originally Posted by Shokolata




Thank you you so much your answer.
Just one more question.
This is first time to use BA. do they upgrade the pax to Business class for waiting staff??
Thank you so much.
Not exactly sure what you mean. Those flights are very full, so you are likely to see upgrades. Economy passenger into Premium Economy, PE passenger into Business Class, Bus Class passenger into First. Given those numbers, there's also a good chance of seeing cash offers for pax not to take that flight and take a different one instead.

If you're asking about staff travel, then given those numbers it looks unlikely.
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Old Apr 6, 2018, 7:13 am
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Originally Posted by Wozza2404
Not exactly sure what you mean. Those flights are very full, so you are likely to see upgrades. Economy passenger into Premium Economy, PE passenger into Business Class, Bus Class passenger into First. Given those numbers, there's also a good chance of seeing cash offers for pax not to take that flight and take a different one instead.

If you're asking about staff travel, then given those numbers it looks unlikely.
thank you very much. I wanted to ask you what you were saying. So it’s better not to try it then..
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Old Apr 6, 2018, 8:43 am
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BA 578 LHR to VCE 20 May

I'd be grateful if someone could post load for:
BA Flt 578
LHR -> VCE
20 May 2018

Thanks!
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Old Apr 6, 2018, 9:07 am
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Originally Posted by tofumatt
i'd be grateful if someone could post load for:
Ba flt 578
lhr -> vce
20 may 2018

thanks!
j9 c4 d0 r0 i0 y9 b9 h9 k0 m0 l0 v0 n0 o0 q0 s0 g0
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Old Apr 6, 2018, 9:26 am
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Would be very grateful if someone could check:
BA218 Den -> LHR
April 9th.

Thanks!
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Old Apr 6, 2018, 1:47 pm
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Would be very grateful if someone could check:

LGW-SKB BA2157 2 May 18
SKB-LGW BA2256 9 May 18

Many thanks in advance
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Old Apr 6, 2018, 2:08 pm
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Originally Posted by bronco122
would be very grateful if someone could check:
Ba218 den -> lhr
april 9th.

Thanks!
​​​​​​f3 a2 j9 c1 d1 r0 i0 w7 e1 t0 y9 b7 h4 k1 m1 l0 v0 s0 n0 q0 o0 g9 (us pos)
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Old Apr 6, 2018, 2:11 pm
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I've not posted in this thread before, but my positioning flight to OTP seems to have shot up in price....


Please could somebody check the following for me:

BA886 LHR-OTP 2nd Aug 18

Thanks
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Old Apr 6, 2018, 2:11 pm
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Originally Posted by Notsofreq
Would be very grateful if someone could check:

LGW-SKB BA2157 2 May 18: J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W6 E2 T0 Y1 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0 (UK POS)
SKB-LGW BA2256 9 May 18: J9 C9 D6 R2 I0 W0 E0 T0 Y9 B9 H8 K8 M7 L7 V4 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0 (UK POS)

Many thanks in advance
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Old Apr 6, 2018, 2:27 pm
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thanks fin_dg
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