Last edit by: Tobias-UK
This is community help desk which allows members to assist each other in finding out how many seats are available on any given flight.
If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.
Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.
As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.
Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed and probably unauthorised (so buyer beware)
What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...
This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.
There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.
2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.
What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.
The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.
Differences for non-BA airlines
If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.
Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.
As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.
Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed and probably unauthorised (so buyer beware)
What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...
This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.
There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.
2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.
What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.
The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.
Differences for non-BA airlines
- Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
- Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
Help to check BA seat availability and BA flight loads
#916
#917
Join Date: Dec 2017
Posts: 16
Could someone check loading for following:
Jan 9th BA 281 LHR-LAX
Jan 16th BA 274 LAS-LHR
Thank you in advance.
Jan 9th BA 281 LHR-LAX
Jan 16th BA 274 LAS-LHR
Thank you in advance.
#918
Ambassador, British Airways Executive Club
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 10,146
BA281 - F2 A1 J9 C4 D4 R3 I0 W8 E1 T0 Y9 B6
H5 K1 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
BA274 -
F9 A8 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E9 T5 Y9 B9
H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9
#919
Join Date: Dec 2017
Posts: 16
First of all a warm welcome to Flyertalk and the BA Board glog69 and this is a great place for all BA and oneworld information. There are of course many other forums which you may or may not find useful and the BA Forum Dashboard is a good place for information. Anyhow in the meantime here you go (UK Point of Sale)
BA281 - F2 A1 J9 C4 D4 R3 I0 W8 E1 T0 Y9 B6
H5 K1 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
BA274 -
F9 A8 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E9 T5 Y9 B9
H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9
BA281 - F2 A1 J9 C4 D4 R3 I0 W8 E1 T0 Y9 B6
H5 K1 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
BA274 -
F9 A8 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E9 T5 Y9 B9
H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9
#920
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Hong Kong
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 275
Hi, can someone check the load of following flights (BA/oneworld)? Wanna see how busy will these services be.
14 Feb 18 CX343 HKG-LGW
18 Feb 18 BA975 HAM-LHR
18 Feb 18 CX250 LHR-HKG
Thanks in advance!
14 Feb 18 CX343 HKG-LGW
18 Feb 18 BA975 HAM-LHR
18 Feb 18 CX250 LHR-HKG
Thanks in advance!
#921
formerly mattking2000
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: DXB
Programs: BA|AC|AZ|SPG|H|FPC
Posts: 1,187
HK POS:
CX 3430HKG
02/14/18 12:45 AMLGW
02/14/18 5:55 AM359
Su,M,W,F
80% / 27mJ9 C9 D9 I2 W9 R9 E9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9
L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9
UK POS (HAM-LHR looks FULL!)
BA 9750HAM
02/18/18 3:25 PMLHR
02/18/18 4:15 PM319
Daily
89% / 13mJ9 C7 D3 R0 I0 Y9 B9 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0
N0 Q0 O0 S0 G0
CX 2500LHR
02/18/18 6:00 PMHKG
02/19/18 1:55 PM77W
Daily
90% / 19mF0 A0 J9 C9 D9 I0 W9 R9 E0 Y9 B9 H9
K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N0 Q0 O0
Are you there for Babywelt?
CX 3430HKG
02/14/18 12:45 AMLGW
02/14/18 5:55 AM359
Su,M,W,F
80% / 27mJ9 C9 D9 I2 W9 R9 E9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9
L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9
UK POS (HAM-LHR looks FULL!)
BA 9750HAM
02/18/18 3:25 PMLHR
02/18/18 4:15 PM319
Daily
89% / 13mJ9 C7 D3 R0 I0 Y9 B9 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0
N0 Q0 O0 S0 G0
CX 2500LHR
02/18/18 6:00 PMHKG
02/19/18 1:55 PM77W
Daily
90% / 19mF0 A0 J9 C9 D9 I0 W9 R9 E0 Y9 B9 H9
K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N0 Q0 O0
Are you there for Babywelt?
#922
Join Date: Oct 2017
Programs: BA Gold, Tesco, Nectar
Posts: 313
Hi there,
Wondered if anyone could explain how to get the ITA matrix to show availabiity?
Cheers!
Wondered if anyone could explain how to get the ITA matrix to show availabiity?
Cheers!
#923
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Ayrshire
Programs: BA GGL/CCR, IHG Spire Ambassador, HH Diamond, Scandic Top Floor
Posts: 139
Sorry, no idea! But you can set up an alert on https://www.baredemptionfinder.com/ which will email you if/when availability opens up.
Thanks Tim,
Have just done it, looks like they release seats 2/3 months in advance looking at whats showing to MEX now.
Regards
DtB
#924
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Oslo, Norway
Posts: 82
Good evening
Could anyone look up for me
OSL-LHR - BA 761
LHR-ATL - BA 227
on 01st january 2018?
Thanks alot
Could anyone look up for me
OSL-LHR - BA 761
LHR-ATL - BA 227
on 01st january 2018?
Thanks alot
#926
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: London
Programs: BAEC : GGL; HHonors : Diamond
Posts: 181
I don't think you can get ITA matrix to show availability. If you want to check loads for a particular flight you can ask in this forum and people with a subscription to expertflyer.com will look it up for you, if you do not want to subscribe yourself. Did you have something, in particular, you were looking for?
#927
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Hong Kong
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 275
HK POS:
CX 3430HKG
02/14/18 12:45 AMLGW
02/14/18 5:55 AM359
Su,M,W,F
80% / 27mJ9 C9 D9 I2 W9 R9 E9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9
L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9
UK POS (HAM-LHR looks FULL!)
BA 9750HAM
02/18/18 3:25 PMLHR
02/18/18 4:15 PM319
Daily
89% / 13mJ9 C7 D3 R0 I0 Y9 B9 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0
N0 Q0 O0 S0 G0
CX 2500LHR
02/18/18 6:00 PMHKG
02/19/18 1:55 PM77W
Daily
90% / 19mF0 A0 J9 C9 D9 I0 W9 R9 E0 Y9 B9 H9
K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N0 Q0 O0
Are you there for Babywelt?
CX 3430HKG
02/14/18 12:45 AMLGW
02/14/18 5:55 AM359
Su,M,W,F
80% / 27mJ9 C9 D9 I2 W9 R9 E9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9
L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9
UK POS (HAM-LHR looks FULL!)
BA 9750HAM
02/18/18 3:25 PMLHR
02/18/18 4:15 PM319
Daily
89% / 13mJ9 C7 D3 R0 I0 Y9 B9 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0
N0 Q0 O0 S0 G0
CX 2500LHR
02/18/18 6:00 PMHKG
02/19/18 1:55 PM77W
Daily
90% / 19mF0 A0 J9 C9 D9 I0 W9 R9 E0 Y9 B9 H9
K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N0 Q0 O0
Are you there for Babywelt?
It's Chinese New Year period (travel time!) back in HKG (flights booked)
#928
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 11
Can someone please look up for me
BA1347 LBA -LHR 31/12/17
BA 207 LHR- MIA 1/1/18 (WT)
Expertflyer indicates that both may be relatively "quiet" but can anyone please tell me the actual availability for both these flights.
Thanks
BA1347 LBA -LHR 31/12/17
BA 207 LHR- MIA 1/1/18 (WT)
Expertflyer indicates that both may be relatively "quiet" but can anyone please tell me the actual availability for both these flights.
Thanks
#929
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: London
Programs: BAEC : GGL; HHonors : Diamond
Posts: 181
Here you go:
BA1347 :: J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 N9 Q9 O9 S9 G9
BA207 :: F9 A8 J9 C0 D0 R0 I0 W9 E5 T1 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N0 Q0 O0 G0
Both flights have lots of availability still.
#930
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 305
Hi, I wonder if anyone can help me by having a look at the loads on BA177 (LHR-JFK) on Monday 1 January.
I specifically booked BA177 to fly in the UD on a 744. The flight is still showing as a 744, although the vast majority of recent BA177 rotations seem to be on a 772. I’m hoping that the loads on BA177 on 1 January are high enough to avoid a last-minute equipment swap... (but not exactly holding my breath)
Thanks in advance,
Richard
I specifically booked BA177 to fly in the UD on a 744. The flight is still showing as a 744, although the vast majority of recent BA177 rotations seem to be on a 772. I’m hoping that the loads on BA177 on 1 January are high enough to avoid a last-minute equipment swap... (but not exactly holding my breath)
Thanks in advance,
Richard