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Old Jul 9, 2017, 11:09 am
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This is community help desk which allows members to assist each other in finding out how many seats are available on any given flight.

If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.

Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.


As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.

Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed and probably unauthorised (so buyer beware)


What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...

This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.

There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.

2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.


What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.

The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.


Differences for non-BA airlines
  • Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
  • Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
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Old Dec 7, 2017, 6:47 pm
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Could someone please check BA98 (YYZ-LHR) on December 10? Thank you in advance.

Last edited by themax; Dec 7, 2017 at 6:49 pm Reason: typo
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Old Dec 7, 2017, 7:19 pm
  #812  
 
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Originally Posted by PETER01
Here are the loads and a warm welcome to Flyertalk yrin. Lots of economy availability and a few in J too.

J9 C9 D0 R0 I0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9
S9 N9 Q9 O0 A0
Thank you very much, guess they are just trying desperately to sell those business seats!
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Old Dec 7, 2017, 7:37 pm
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Programs: BA Gold, TP Silver
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Originally Posted by flightcrew1
Could someone please check flight loads for me on these flights? If possible can anyone access the seat map and do a screen shot for Premium Economy (WTP) and Business for these flights?

Thanks so much.
Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.com
Code:
Flight Availability Search
Departing BKK on 12/22/17 12:00 AM for LHR
Returning on 01/09/18 12:00 AM
Flying BA
Direct/Non-Stop Only
Exclude Codeshares
Point of Sale: Thailand


Frequency
Flight Stops Depart Arrive Aircraft Reliability Available Classes
0 Connections
BA 10 0 BKK LHR 777 Daily J9 C2 D1 R0 I0 W6 E0 T0 Y5 B2 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
12/22/17 11:15 AM 12/22/17 5:25 PM 61% / 27m

Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.com
Code:
Seat Map Search:
Departing BKK on 12/22/17 for LHR
Flying BA flight 10 in Business/Club, Premium Economy

A B D E F G J K
1 - - - -
2 - - + + + + + -
3 - - + + + + - -
4 + + - - + + - -
5 + + - +
A B D E F G J K


A B D E F G J K
10 + + + + + + + +
11 - + + X + + + -
A B D E F G J K


A B D E F G J K
12 W + + + X X + + + W
13 W - + - + + + - - W
14 W + - - + + + - + W
A B D E F G J K




Seats
Premium Only P
Available +
Handicap-Accessible H
Paid & Premium #
Occupied -
Blocked X
Lavatory L
Paid $

Location
Exit Row E
Wing W
Upper Deck U
Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.com
Code:
Flight Availability Search
Departing BKK on 12/22/17 12:00 AM for LHR
Returning on 01/09/18 12:00 AM
Flying BA
Direct/Non-Stop Only
Exclude Codeshares
Point of Sale: Thailand


Frequency
Flight Stops Depart Arrive Aircraft Reliability Available Classes
0 Connections
BA 9 0 LHR BKK 777 Daily J9 C4 D2 R0 I0 W0 E0 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K7 M3 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
01/09/18 3:05 PM 01/10/18 9:25 AM 55% / 27m

Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.com
Code:
Seat Map Search:
Departing LHR on 01/09/18 for BKK
Flying BA flight 9 in Business/Club, Premium Economy

A B D E F G J K
1 + + + +
2 + + - - - + - -
3 - - + + + + - -
4 - - + X + + - -
5 - - - -
A B D E F G J K


A B D E F G J K
10 - + + + + + + +
11 - - + X + + + +
A B D E F G J K


A B D E F G J K
12 W + + + X X + - - W
13 W - - - + + + - - W
14 W - - - + + - + + W
A B D E F G J K




Seats
Premium Only P
Available +
Handicap-Accessible H
Paid & Premium #
Occupied -
Blocked X
Lavatory L
Paid $

Location
Exit Row E
Wing W
Upper Deck U
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Old Dec 7, 2017, 7:38 pm
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Join Date: Nov 2005
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Originally Posted by themax
Could someone please check BA98 (YYZ-LHR) on December 10? Thank you in advance.
Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.comFlight Availability Search
Departing YYZ on 12/10/17 12:00 AM for LHR
Flying BA
Direct/Non-Stop Only
Exclude Codeshares
Point of Sale: Canada


Frequency
Flight Stops Depart Arrive Aircraft Reliability Available Classes
0 Connections
BA 92 0 YYZ LHR 777 Daily F6 A5 J9 C1 D0 R0 I0 W9 E6 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K6 M4 L1 V1 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G5
12/10/17 6:20 PM 12/11/17 6:25 AM 94% / 16m

0 Connections
BA 98 0 YYZ LHR 788 Daily J9 C4 D4 R0 I0 W7 E0 T0 Y9 B7 H6 K3 M3 L3 V3 S3 N3 Q3 O3 G3
12/10/17 10:05 PM 12/11/17 10:10 AM 77% / 19m
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Old Dec 7, 2017, 7:41 pm
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Join Date: Nov 2005
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Posts: 888
Originally Posted by CBear
So how is BA 48 (SEA - LHR) looking on Dec 16th?

Many thanks in advance.
Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.comFlight Availability Search
Departing SEA on 12/16/17 6:00 PM for LHR
Flying BA
Direct/Non-Stop Only
Exclude Codeshares


Frequency
Flight Stops Depart Arrive Aircraft Reliability Available Classes
0 Connections
BA 48 0 SEA LHR 777 Su,M,T,W,Th,Sa F1 A0 J9 C9 D9 R9 I0 W4 E0 T0 Y1 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
12/16/17 6:20 PM 12/17/17 11:45 AM 65% / 23m
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Old Dec 8, 2017, 8:44 am
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Would someone be kind enough to check the load on BA 292 IAD-LHR on Dec. 10? Thanks in advance.
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Old Dec 8, 2017, 8:47 am
  #817  
 
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Originally Posted by whimsey21
Would someone be kind enough to check the load on BA 292 IAD-LHR on Dec. 10? Thanks in advance.
F2 A1 J9 C1 D0 R0 I0 W9 E0 T0 Y9 B9
H6 K4 M1 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G9
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Old Dec 8, 2017, 8:48 am
  #818  
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Originally Posted by whimsey21
Would someone be kind enough to check the load on BA 292 IAD-LHR on Dec. 10? Thanks in advance.
Here you go
BA 292
IAD
12/10/17 10:30 PM LHR
12/11/17 10:40 AM 744
Daily
75% / 25m
F2 A1 J9 C1 D0 R0 I0 W9 E0 T0 Y9 B9
H6 K4 M1 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G9

ETA: That Wozza guy is fast!
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Old Dec 8, 2017, 9:57 am
  #819  
 
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Originally Posted by PETER01

ETA: That Wozza guy is fast!
You're both really fast! Thanks much.
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Old Dec 8, 2017, 10:52 am
  #820  
 
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Hello, please could someone do a load check on a couple of flights? Thanks in advance

BA59 LHR-CPT 17/01/2018
BA58 CPT-LHR 22/01/2018
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Old Dec 8, 2017, 11:36 am
  #821  
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Originally Posted by firstlight
Hello, please could someone do a load check on a couple of flights? Thanks in advance

BA59 LHR-CPT 17/01/2018
BA58 CPT-LHR 22/01/2018
BA 59 - F0 A0 J0 C0 D0 R0 I0 W0 E0 T0 Y9 B9
H9 K9 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0

BA 58 - F7 A6 J9 C9 D6 R0 I0 W7 E0 T0 Y9 B9
H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9
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Old Dec 8, 2017, 11:40 am
  #822  
 
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Originally Posted by PETER01
BA 59 - F0 A0 J0 C0 D0 R0 I0 W0 E0 T0 Y9 B9
H9 K9 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0

BA 58 - F7 A6 J9 C9 D6 R0 I0 W7 E0 T0 Y9 B9
H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9
Thanks, the BA59 is looking a bit full up front!
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Old Dec 8, 2017, 11:42 am
  #823  
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Originally Posted by firstlight
Thanks, the BA59 is looking a bit full up front!
Indeed it is, a very popular route but the flight is really a long way off however I think it will still stay rammed!
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Old Dec 10, 2017, 3:50 am
  #824  
 
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Posts: 91
Can someone give me an update on the loads for LHR - LAX 17 December - BA 269

Thanks in advance.
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Old Dec 10, 2017, 3:52 am
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Originally Posted by acbs
Can someone give me an update on the loads for LHR - LAX 17 December - BA 269

Thanks in advance.
UK POS

BA269
LHR 17/12/17 15:30
LAX 17/12/17 18:50
388
F1 A0 J9 C2 D0 R0 I0 W2 E0 T0 Y1 B0
H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
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