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Old Jul 9, 2017, 11:09 am
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This is community help desk which allows members to assist each other in finding out how many seats are available on any given flight.

If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.

Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.


As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.

Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed and probably unauthorised (so buyer beware)


What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...

This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.

There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.

2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.


What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.

The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.


Differences for non-BA airlines
  • Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
  • Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
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Help to check BA seat availability and BA flight loads

Old Oct 30, 2017, 5:42 am
  #631  
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
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Originally Posted by 86BA7
10th Nov 2017 LHR ARN
BA782 - 16:10

Thanks in advance!
Good morning, as requested:

J9 C7 D4 R9 I0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V5 N0 Q0 O0 S9 G9

Hope this helps.
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Old Oct 30, 2017, 1:52 pm
  #632  
 
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Rather worried. Two of us on a 2-4-1 Club class on BA56 JNB to LHR tomorrow (31 October) and are being told we can't check in on line, try later or check in at the airport. Lowly Blues and have not (obviously) bought seats in advance.

Can someone please check the Club availability and advise me if we're likely to be downgraded? Thanks.
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Old Oct 30, 2017, 2:19 pm
  #633  
 
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Originally Posted by Claranda
Rather worried. Two of us on a 2-4-1 Club class on BA56 JNB to LHR tomorrow (31 October) and are being told we can't check in on line, try later or check in at the airport. Lowly Blues and have not (obviously) bought seats in advance.

Can someone please check the Club availability and advise me if we're likely to be downgraded? Thanks.
F2 A1 J9 C9 D9 R0 I0 W9 E9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9

Club World availability is in bold. Doesn't look horrifically busy, there are still at least 9 seats that BA are willing to sell in CW.
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Old Oct 30, 2017, 2:36 pm
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Be grateful for the BA11 LHR - SIN on the 6th Nov. Club looks pretty busy and was wandering if i would be able to pay for an upgrade at the airport to F (work booked through TA).

thanks in advance!
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Old Oct 30, 2017, 2:44 pm
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Originally Posted by ceej123
Be grateful for the BA11 LHR - SIN on the 6th Nov. Club looks pretty busy and was wandering if i would be able to pay for an upgrade at the airport to F (work booked through TA).

thanks in advance!
F0 A0 J9 C3 D3 R0 I0 W9 E9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9

First is sold out (as far as I read it).
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Old Oct 30, 2017, 4:00 pm
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Originally Posted by Schwann
F0 A0 J9 C3 D3 R0 I0 W9 E9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9

First is sold out (as far as I read it).
There goes my plan to somehow get a window seat! Thanks for checking so quickly!
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Old Nov 1, 2017, 3:26 am
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If someone has time to check the loads for BA219 (LHR - DEN) for Monday Nov 6th, I would be very grateful. Thanks so much in advance!!!
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Old Nov 1, 2017, 3:37 am
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Originally Posted by LondonCanuck
If someone has time to check the loads for BA219 (LHR - DEN) for Monday Nov 6th, I would be very grateful. Thanks so much in advance!!!
BA 219 0 LHR
11/06/17 11:25 AM DEN
11/06/17 2:20 PM 744
Daily
48% / 30m
F6 A5 J9 C1 D1 R0 I0 W9 E5 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9
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Old Nov 1, 2017, 6:09 am
  #639  
 
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Hello please could someone provide me the loads for the following, the price seems to have increased substantially :

BA199 Lhr-bom 18th Dec 17
BA138 bom-Lhr 17th Jan 18

Thanx a lot in advance
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Old Nov 1, 2017, 6:52 am
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Please can someone check Bahrain- LHR BA124 on Fri 3 Nov

thanks in advance
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Old Nov 1, 2017, 7:02 am
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Originally Posted by diamantaire
hello please could someone provide me the loads for the following, the price seems to have increased substantially :

Ba199 lhr-bom 18th dec 17
ba138 bom-lhr 17th jan 18

thanx a lot in advance
ba 199 0 lhr
12/18/17 8:50 pm bom
12/19/17 11:15 am 777
f0 a0 j9 c9 d9 r0 i0 w1 e0 t0 y9 b0 h0 k0 m0 l0 v0 s0 n0 q0 o0 g0

ba 138 0 bom
01/17/18 2:15 am lhr
01/17/18 6:50 am 777
f9 a9 j9 c9 d7 r0 i0 w9 e0 t0 y7 b0 h0 k0 m0 l0 v0 s0 n0 q0 o0 g0
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Old Nov 1, 2017, 7:04 am
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Originally Posted by castle25
please can someone check bahrain- lhr ba124 on fri 3 nov

thanks in advance
ba 124 0 bah
11/03/17 1:30 am lhr
11/03/17 5:55 am 777
f2 a0 j4 c0 d0 r0 i0 w0 e0 t0 y3 b0 h0 k0 m0 l0 v0 s0 n0 q0 o0 g0
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Old Nov 1, 2017, 7:27 am
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Originally Posted by marshy11
ba 199 0 lhr
12/18/17 8:50 pm bom
12/19/17 11:15 am 777
f0 a0 j9 c9 d9 r0 i0 w1 e0 t0 y9 b0 h0 k0 m0 l0 v0 s0 n0 q0 o0 g0

ba 138 0 bom
01/17/18 2:15 am lhr
01/17/18 6:50 am 777
f9 a9 j9 c9 d7 r0 i0 w9 e0 t0 y7 b0 h0 k0 m0 l0 v0 s0 n0 q0 o0 g0
Thanx a lot marshy11
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Old Nov 1, 2017, 3:06 pm
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Ba2167 - lgw-tpa

Would anyone be so kind enough and look at the flight loads for the BA2167 LGW-TPA for tomorrow please? TIA, appreciated. Pete
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Old Nov 1, 2017, 3:09 pm
  #645  
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Originally Posted by PETER01
Would anyone be so kind enough and look at the flight loads for the BA2167 LGW-TPA for tomorrow please? TIA, appreciated. Pete
J0 C0 D0 R0 I0
W0 E0 T0
Y1 B1 H1 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0

AKA as full! Looking at the seat map, WTP must be oversold, CW is probably be close to full, but upgrades will fill, WT is very full if not oversold.
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