Last edit by: Tobias-UK
This is community help desk which allows members to assist each other in finding out how many seats are available on any given flight.
If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.
Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.
As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.
Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed and probably unauthorised (so buyer beware)
What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...
This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.
There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.
2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.
What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.
The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.
Differences for non-BA airlines
If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.
Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.
As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.
Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed and probably unauthorised (so buyer beware)
What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...
This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.
There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.
2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.
What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.
The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.
Differences for non-BA airlines
- Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
- Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
Help to check BA seat availability and BA flight loads
#346
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Switzerland / Estonia
Programs: AY+ Platinum, BAEC Silver, airbaltic VIP, HH Diamond, Radisson VIP, IHG Diamond Elite
Posts: 6,510
Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.com
Code:
Flight Availability Search Departing HND on 09/16/17 12:00 AM for LHR Flying BA Direct/Non-Stop Only Point of Sale: UK Frequency Flight Stops Depart Arrive Aircraft Reliability Available Classes 0 Connections BA 8 0 HND LHR 777 Daily F1 A1 J0 C0 D0 R0 I0 W0 E0 T0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0 09/16/17 8:50 AM 09/16/17 1:10 PM 81% / 17m
#347
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: London
Programs: BAEC Silver, HH Diamond, Radisson Gold, IHG Gold, Marriott Gold, Shangri La Jade
Posts: 264
BA173 LHR-JFK tomorrow (13th Sept) at 1120
Thank you!
Thank you!
#349
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: UK
Programs: BA Gold, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Silver, IHG Spire Ambassador, Accor Silver, Hyatt Explorist
Posts: 276
BA184 EWR>LHR on Thursday 14th September?
Thanks !
Thanks !
#350
Join Date: May 2017
Location: London
Posts: 46
BA028 HKG-LHR 23.45 Fri. 15 Sep?
Thanks in advance!
Thanks in advance!
#351
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: London
Programs: Many. Too many. I came here to cut them down. I failed.
Posts: 2,998
#352
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: London
Programs: Many. Too many. I came here to cut them down. I failed.
Posts: 2,998
#354
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Switzerland / Estonia
Programs: AY+ Platinum, BAEC Silver, airbaltic VIP, HH Diamond, Radisson VIP, IHG Diamond Elite
Posts: 6,510
Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.com
Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.com
Code:
Flight Availability Search Departing LGW on 09/24/17 12:00 AM for BGI Flying BA Point of Sale: UK Frequency Flight Stops Depart Arrive Aircraft Reliability Available Classes 0 Connections BA 2155 0 LGW BGI 777 Su,M,T,Th,F,Sa F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9 09/24/17 11:25 AM 09/24/17 3:05 PM 74% / 23m
Code:
Flight Availability Search Departing BGI on 10/05/17 12:00 AM for LGW Flying BA Point of Sale: UK Frequency Flight Stops Depart Arrive Aircraft Reliability Available Classes 0 Connections BA 2154 0 BGI LGW 777 Daily F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G1 10/05/17 5:10 PM 10/06/17 6:20 AM 84% / 18m
#355
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Newcastle/London & Worldwide
Programs: BAEC Gold, Virgin Flying Club Silver
Posts: 818
Hi can someone please check the loads on BA2733 ACE>LGW on Sunday 17th September.
Im trying to upgrade to Club but website showing Sold Out and ExpertFlyer showing quite a few seats.
Economy looks empty but is this just showing who has selected seats rather than actual loads? An accurate load check would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Im trying to upgrade to Club but website showing Sold Out and ExpertFlyer showing quite a few seats.
Economy looks empty but is this just showing who has selected seats rather than actual loads? An accurate load check would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
#356
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 46
Could someone check
BA217 LHR-IAD 3/10/17
BA292 IAD-LHR 9/10/17
No status so trying to decide if I need to stump up for a seat reservation. Thanks in advance.
BA217 LHR-IAD 3/10/17
BA292 IAD-LHR 9/10/17
No status so trying to decide if I need to stump up for a seat reservation. Thanks in advance.
#357
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: London
Programs: Many. Too many. I came here to cut them down. I failed.
Posts: 2,998
Hi can someone please check the loads on BA2733 ACE>LGW on Sunday 17th September.
Im trying to upgrade to Club but website showing Sold Out and ExpertFlyer showing quite a few seats.
Economy looks empty but is this just showing who has selected seats rather than actual loads? An accurate load check would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Im trying to upgrade to Club but website showing Sold Out and ExpertFlyer showing quite a few seats.
Economy looks empty but is this just showing who has selected seats rather than actual loads? An accurate load check would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
SUN 17SEP17 LANZAROTE /LONDON AREA
ACE LGW 1845 2250 BA2733
J0 C0 DC RC IC Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 N8 Q1 OC SC G0
#358
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: London
Programs: Many. Too many. I came here to cut them down. I failed.
Posts: 2,998
TUE 03OCT17 LONDON AREA /WASHINGTON
LHR IAD 0940 1245
BA 217 F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E3 TC Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G5
MON 09OCT17 WASHINGTON /LONDON AREA
IAD LHR 09/2220#1030 BA 292
F6 A5 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E9 T5 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9
O9 G9
#360
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: MME (midway between NCL and LBA)
Programs: BA Gold, AF/KL Gold, Hilton Gold, Nordic Choice Gold
Posts: 740
Could I ask for BA1327 NCL-LHR on 22 October 2017.
Prices seem pretty steep and no avios availability.
Thanks
Prices seem pretty steep and no avios availability.
Thanks