Jul 9, 2017, 11:09 am
Last edit by: Tobias-UK
This is community help desk which allows members to assist each other in finding out how many seats are available on any given flight.
If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.
Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.
As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.
Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed and probably unauthorised (so buyer beware)
What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...
This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.
There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.
2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.
What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.
The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.
Differences for non-BA airlines
If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.
Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.
As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.
Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed and probably unauthorised (so buyer beware)
What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...
This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.
There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.
2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.
What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.
The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.
Differences for non-BA airlines
- Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
- Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
Help to check BA seat availability and BA flight loads
Sep 8, 2017, 12:47 pm
#331
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: ANR, BELGIUM
Programs: DIAMANTAIRE EXTRAORDINAIRE
Posts: 453
Hi can someone please help out:
10 sept 17 BA109 LHR-DXB
24 sept 17 BA106 DXB-LHR
Thanx a lot in advance !!
10 sept 17 BA109 LHR-DXB
24 sept 17 BA106 DXB-LHR
Thanx a lot in advance !!
Sep 8, 2017, 2:05 pm
#332
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: London
Programs: BA GGL / GfL
Posts: 3,229
LHR 09/10/17 9:20 PM
DXB 09/11/17 7:30 AM
777
Daily
F0 A0 J2 C0 D0 R0 I0 W9 E5 T0 Y7 B4 H1 K1 M1 L1 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
BA 106
DXB 09/24/17 1:30 AM
LHR 09/24/17 6:15 AM
777
Daily
F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E9 T6 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N5 Q0 O0 G0
Pilot37
Sep 8, 2017, 2:07 pm
#333
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: ANR, BELGIUM
Programs: DIAMANTAIRE EXTRAORDINAIRE
Posts: 453
Thanx a lot Pilot37
Sep 9, 2017, 6:09 am
#334
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 2
Please could someone help me
23rd Sept 17 BA0079 LHR-MCT
1st Oct 17 BA0080 MCT-LHR
Thanks
23rd Sept 17 BA0079 LHR-MCT
1st Oct 17 BA0080 MCT-LHR
Thanks
Sep 9, 2017, 6:35 am
#335
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Bridport, Dorset
Programs: Mucci, BA Bronze, Hilton Gold
Posts: 2,121
F1 A0 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E9 T5 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G2
BA 80MCT 8:15a → LHR 1:30p
F8 A8 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E9 T6 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G3
Excuse the formating. Posting from phone.
Sep 11, 2017, 12:52 am
#337
Join Date: Jan 2005
Programs: Aegean Airlines Silver, British Airways Gold, Virgin Atlantic Silver
Posts: 1,740
Could someone please check BA0033 LHR-KUL on Tuesday 10th October?
Thanks
Thanks
Sep 11, 2017, 1:48 am
#338
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: London
Programs: BAEC, LH M&M
Posts: 21
Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.com
Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.com
Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.com
Code:
Flight Availability Search
Departing LHR on 03/30/18 12:00 AM for BEY
Flying BA
Direct/Non-Stop Only
Point of Sale: UK
Frequency
Flight Stops Depart Arrive Aircraft Reliability Available Classes
0 Connections
BA 149 0 LHR BEY 321 Daily J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
03/30/18 2:40 PM 03/30/18 9:30 PM 63% / 19m
Code:
Seat Map Search:
Departing LHR on 03/30/18 for BEY
Flying BA flight 149 in Business/Club, Economy
A C D F
1 + H +
2 - - +
3 + - -
4 + H +
5 + H +
6 + H +
7 E + + E
8 + H +
A C D F
Code:
Seat Map Search:
Departing LHR on 03/30/18 for BEY
Flying BA flight 149 in Business/Club, Economy
A B C D E F
9 W X + + + + X W
10 W + + + + + + W
11 W + + + + + + W
12 W + + + + + + W
14 W + + + + + + W
15 W + + + + + + W
16 W + + + + + + W
17 W + + + + + + W
18 + + + + + +
19 + + H H +
A B C D E F
A B C D E F
20 E X X X X - - E
21 + + + + + +
22 + + + + + +
23 + + + + + +
24 + + + + + +
25 + + + + + +
26 + + + + + +
27 + + + + + +
28 + + + + + +
29 + + + + + +
30 + + + + + +
31 + + H H + +
A B C D E F
Sep 11, 2017, 3:12 am
#339
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 104
Can anyone check ba2167 lgw-tpa on 13th September
BA showing zero but want to check that's not because they are planning to cancel it. thanks!
BA showing zero but want to check that's not because they are planning to cancel it. thanks!
Sep 11, 2017, 4:39 am
#340
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: London
Programs: Many. Too many. I came here to cut them down. I failed.
Posts: 2,999
Flight's not full - only in WT and WT+.
WED 13SEP17 LONDON AREA /TAMPA
1 LGW TPA 1150 1615
BA2167 J2 C1 DC RC IC W0 EC TC Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 LC VC SC NC QC OC G0
Sep 11, 2017, 4:46 am
#341
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 104
I imagine they would only cancel it if the airport cannot handle flights on the 13th, which is possible. There are a lot of people trying to get to / from Florida with todays / tomorrows rotations already cancelled.
Flight's not full - only in WT and WT+.
WED 13SEP17 LONDON AREA /TAMPA
1 LGW TPA 1150 1615
BA2167 J2 C1 DC RC IC W0 EC TC Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 LC VC SC NC QC OC G0
Flight's not full - only in WT and WT+.
WED 13SEP17 LONDON AREA /TAMPA
1 LGW TPA 1150 1615
BA2167 J2 C1 DC RC IC W0 EC TC Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 LC VC SC NC QC OC G0
Sep 11, 2017, 5:59 am
#342
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Gloucestershire
Programs: BA Gold (ex-GGL, maybe future Silver), Hilton Diamond
Posts: 6,197
Sep 11, 2017, 6:06 am
#343
Join Date: Jan 2005
Programs: Aegean Airlines Silver, British Airways Gold, Virgin Atlantic Silver
Posts: 1,740
Sep 11, 2017, 6:11 am
#344
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Gloucestershire
Programs: BA Gold (ex-GGL, maybe future Silver), Hilton Diamond
Posts: 6,197
I still wouldn't worry.
Currently it looks as though there are two empty seats in F (not unsold, actually empty, as they only oversell by one at most). That means that, in the ten months or so the flight has been open for sale, they've sold four First tickets plus your 2-4-1.
Most A class (discounted F) fares are also fairly flexible (think of the change fee as a proportion of the ticket price) which means that F often sees someone disappear at the last minute - plus you have good rerouting options through HKG and SIN too if, somehow, you did get bumped.
Currently it looks as though there are two empty seats in F (not unsold, actually empty, as they only oversell by one at most). That means that, in the ten months or so the flight has been open for sale, they've sold four First tickets plus your 2-4-1.
Most A class (discounted F) fares are also fairly flexible (think of the change fee as a proportion of the ticket price) which means that F often sees someone disappear at the last minute - plus you have good rerouting options through HKG and SIN too if, somehow, you did get bumped.
Sep 11, 2017, 6:42 pm
#345
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 93
Could someone please check BA0008 HAN-LHR on Saturday 16th September?
