Jul 9, 2017, 11:09 am
Last edit by: Tobias-UK
This is community help desk which allows members to assist each other in finding out how many seats are available on any given flight.
If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.
Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.
As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.
Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed and probably unauthorised (so buyer beware)
What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...
This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.
There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.
2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.
What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.
The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.
Differences for non-BA airlines
If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.
Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.
As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.
Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed and probably unauthorised (so buyer beware)
What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...
This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.
There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.
2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.
What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.
The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.
Differences for non-BA airlines
- Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
- Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
Help to check BA seat availability and BA flight loads
Sep 6, 2017, 9:36 am
#316
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Gloucestershire
Programs: BA Gold (ex-GGL, maybe future Silver), Hilton Diamond
Posts: 6,197
F2 a2
j9 c3 d0 r0 i0
w9 e0 t0
y9 b9 h9 k6 m3 l0 v0 s0 n7 q0 o6 g1
ba7/hnd:
F8 a8
j9 c3 d0 r0 i0
w9 e5 t0
y9 b9 h6 k3 m0 l0 v0 s0 n9 q0 o9 g9
Sep 6, 2017, 9:46 am
#317
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 8,767
Thanks. Any idea why N/O numbers are a lot higher than H/K/M/L/V? That's quite unusual no - maybe extra cheapo availability added late on to fill up the back?
Sep 6, 2017, 9:55 am
#318
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Gloucestershire
Programs: BA Gold (ex-GGL, maybe future Silver), Hilton Diamond
Posts: 6,197
That'd be the logical inference, yes - particularly G and BA Holidays.
Sep 6, 2017, 5:28 pm
#320
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: SFO, LON
Programs: BA GGL/CCR, Bonvoy Tit, Hilton Dia etc etc
Posts: 2,354
It's looking a bit more normal now for HND:
F7 A7 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9
F7 A7 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9
Sep 7, 2017, 3:42 pm
#321
Join Date: Sep 2017
Programs: BA
Posts: 2
Thank you very much for the details!
Sep 8, 2017, 2:18 am
#322
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 54
Could one of you super people check the below for me please
9th Sept ba155
10th sept ba154
10th sept ba 275
Thanks in advance
9th Sept ba155
10th sept ba154
10th sept ba 275
Thanks in advance
Sep 8, 2017, 2:24 am
#323
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Switzerland
Programs: AY+ Platinum, SK Gold, BAEC Silver, airbaltic VIP, Radisson VIP
Posts: 6,529
Sep 8, 2017, 2:24 am
#324
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Bridport, Dorset
Programs: Mucci, BA Bronze, Hilton Gold
Posts: 2,129
EDIT: Googled it. Providing the route is better than the flight number.
09SEP LHR - CAI BA 155 J2 C0 D0 R0 I0 W2 E0 T0 Y3 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
10SEP CAI - LHR BA 154 J0 C0 D0 R0 I0 W0 E0 T0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
10SEP LHR - LAS BA 275 F5 A4 J4 C0 D0 R0 I0 W4 E0 T0 Y9 B7 H4 K2 M1 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G9
Sep 8, 2017, 2:33 am
#326
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 54
Can you provide the route?
EDIT: Googled it. Providing the route is better than the flight number.
09SEP LHR - CAI BA 155 J2 C0 D0 R0 I0 W2 E0 T0 Y3 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
10SEP CAI - LHR BA 154 J0 C0 D0 R0 I0 W0 E0 T0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
10SEP LHR - LAS BA 275 F5 A4 J4 C0 D0 R0 I0 W4 E0 T0 Y9 B7 H4 K2 M1 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G9
EDIT: Googled it. Providing the route is better than the flight number.
09SEP LHR - CAI BA 155 J2 C0 D0 R0 I0 W2 E0 T0 Y3 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
10SEP CAI - LHR BA 154 J0 C0 D0 R0 I0 W0 E0 T0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
10SEP LHR - LAS BA 275 F5 A4 J4 C0 D0 R0 I0 W4 E0 T0 Y9 B7 H4 K2 M1 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G9
Sep 8, 2017, 3:03 am
#327
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 36
Could someone check:
ba154 cai to lhr on the 27th october
ba215 lhr to Boston 27th ocotber
ba 214 bos to lhr on 30th October
ba 155 lhr to cai on the 31st October
thank you so much
ba154 cai to lhr on the 27th october
ba215 lhr to Boston 27th ocotber
ba 214 bos to lhr on 30th October
ba 155 lhr to cai on the 31st October
thank you so much
Sep 8, 2017, 3:04 am
#328
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 36
Superb, thanks very much, the Cai - lhr on the 10th looks pretty full. The 1st cabin has opened up as CW on this but I wasn't sure whether to change to it as I currently had one of the best CW seats and didn't want to get punted back at check in to a random seat, but looking at this, seems worth the risk
Sep 8, 2017, 6:06 am
#329
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: London
Programs: BAEC, LH M&M
Posts: 21
Could someone please check loading, and especially seat map for the following (wondering whether just to book into 'Y' if exit row is still available):
Fri 30 Mar 18:
LHR - BEY BA149 14.40 - 21.30
and either of:
Tue 3 Apr:
BEY - LHR BA148 08.50 - 12.10
or same flight next day:
Wed 4 Apr:
BEY - LHR BA148 08.50 - 12.10
Thanks in advance.
Fri 30 Mar 18:
LHR - BEY BA149 14.40 - 21.30
and either of:
Tue 3 Apr:
BEY - LHR BA148 08.50 - 12.10
or same flight next day:
Wed 4 Apr:
BEY - LHR BA148 08.50 - 12.10
Thanks in advance.
Sep 8, 2017, 11:37 am
#330
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Switzerland
Programs: AY+ Platinum, SK Gold, BAEC Silver, airbaltic VIP, Radisson VIP
Posts: 6,529
Could someone please check loading, and especially seat map for the following (wondering whether just to book into 'Y' if exit row is still available):
Fri 30 Mar 18:
LHR - BEY BA149 14.40 - 21.30
and either of:
Tue 3 Apr:
BEY - LHR BA148 08.50 - 12.10
or same flight next day:
Wed 4 Apr:
BEY - LHR BA148 08.50 - 12.10
Thanks in advance.
Fri 30 Mar 18:
LHR - BEY BA149 14.40 - 21.30
and either of:
Tue 3 Apr:
BEY - LHR BA148 08.50 - 12.10
or same flight next day:
Wed 4 Apr:
BEY - LHR BA148 08.50 - 12.10
Thanks in advance.
Code:
Flight Availability Search
Departing LHR on 03/30/18 12:00 AM for BEY
Flying BA
Direct/Non-Stop Only
Point of Sale: UK
Frequency
Flight Stops Depart Arrive Aircraft Reliability Available Classes
0 Connections
BA 149 0 LHR BEY 321 Daily J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
03/30/18 2:40 PM 03/30/18 9:30 PM 63% / 19m
Code:
Seat Map Search:
Departing LHR on 03/30/18 for BEY
Flying BA flight 149 in Business/Club, Economy
A C D F
1 + H +
2 - - +
3 + - -
4 + H +
5 + H +
6 + H +
7 E + + E
8 + H +
A C D F
Seats
Premium Only P
Available +
Handicap-Accessible H
Paid & Premium #
Occupied -
Blocked X
Lavatory L
Paid $
Location
Exit Row E
Wing W
Upper Deck U
Code:
Seat Map Search:
Departing LHR on 03/30/18 for BEY
Flying BA flight 149 in Business/Club, Economy
A B C D E F
9 W X + + + + X W
10 W + + + + + + W
11 W + + + + + + W
12 W + + + + + + W
14 W + + + + + + W
15 W + + + + + + W
16 W + + + + + + W
17 W + + + + + + W
18 + + + + + +
19 + + H H +
A B C D E F
A B C D E F
20 E X X X X - - E
21 + + + + + +
22 + + + + + +
23 + + + + + +
24 + + + + + +
25 + + + + + +
26 + + + + + +
27 + + + + + +
28 + + + + + +
29 + + + + + +
30 + + + + + +
31 + + H H + +
A B C D E F
Seats
Premium Only P
Available +
Handicap-Accessible H
Paid & Premium #
Occupied -
Blocked X
Lavatory L
Paid $
Location
Exit Row E
Wing W
Upper Deck U
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Code:
Flight Availability Search
Departing BEY on 04/03/18 12:00 AM for LHR
Flying BA
Direct/Non-Stop Only
Point of Sale: UK
Frequency
Flight Stops Depart Arrive Aircraft Reliability Available Classes
0 Connections
BA 148 0 BEY LHR 321 Su,M,T,W,Th J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
04/03/18 8:50 AM 04/03/18 12:10 PM 89% / 10m
Code:
Seat Map Search:
Departing BEY on 04/03/18 for LHR
Flying BA flight 148 in Business/Club, Economy
A C D F
1 + H +
2 + H +
3 + H +
4 + H +
5 + H +
6 + H +
7 E + + E
8 + H +
A C D F
Seats
Premium Only P
Available +
Handicap-Accessible H
Paid & Premium #
Occupied -
Blocked X
Lavatory L
Paid $
Location
Exit Row E
Wing W
Upper Deck U
Code:
Seat Map Search:
Departing BEY on 04/03/18 for LHR
Flying BA flight 148 in Business/Club, Economy
A B C D E F
9 W X + + + + X W
10 W + + + + + + W
11 W + + + + + + W
12 W + + + + + + W
14 W + + + + + + W
15 W + + + + + + W
16 W + + + + + + W
17 W + + + + + + W
18 + + + + + +
19 + + H H +
A B C D E F
A B C D E F
20 E X X X X X X E
21 + + + + + +
22 + + + + + +
23 + + + + + +
24 + + + + + +
25 + + + + + +
26 + + + + + +
27 + + + + + +
28 + + + + + +
29 + + + + + +
30 + + + + + +
31 + + H H + +
A B C D E F
Seats
Premium Only P
Available +
Handicap-Accessible H
Paid & Premium #
Occupied -
Blocked X
Lavatory L
Paid $
Location
Exit Row E
Wing W
Upper Deck U
Code:
Flight Availability Search
Departing BEY on 04/04/18 12:00 AM for LHR
Flying BA
Direct/Non-Stop Only
Point of Sale: UK
Frequency
Flight Stops Depart Arrive Aircraft Reliability Available Classes
0 Connections
BA 148 0 BEY LHR 321 Su,M,T,W,Th J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
04/04/18 8:50 AM 04/04/18 12:10 PM 89% / 10m
Code:
Seat Map Search:
Departing BEY on 04/04/18 for LHR
Flying BA flight 148 in Business/Club, Economy
A C D F
1 + H +
2 + H +
3 + H +
4 + H +
5 + H +
6 + H +
7 E + + E
8 + H +
A C D F
Seats
Premium Only P
Available +
Handicap-Accessible H
Paid & Premium #
Occupied -
Blocked X
Lavatory L
Paid $
Location
Exit Row E
Wing W
Upper Deck U
Code:
Seat Map Search:
Departing BEY on 04/04/18 for LHR
Flying BA flight 148 in Business/Club, Economy
A B C D E F
9 W X + + + + X W
10 W + + + + + + W
11 W + + + + + + W
12 W + + + + + + W
14 W + + + + + + W
15 W + + + + + + W
16 W + + + + + + W
17 W + + + + + + W
18 + + + + + +
19 + + H H +
A B C D E F
A B C D E F
20 E X X X X X X E
21 + + + + + +
22 + + + + + +
23 + + + + + +
24 + + + + + +
25 + + + + + +
26 + + + + + +
27 + + + + + +
28 + + + + + +
29 + + + + + +
30 + + + + + +
31 + + H H + +
A B C D E F
Seats
Premium Only P
Available +
Handicap-Accessible H
Paid & Premium #
Occupied -
Blocked X
Lavatory L
Paid $
Location
Exit Row E
Wing W
Upper Deck U