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Help to check BA seat availability and BA flight loads

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This is community help desk which allows members to assist each other in finding out how many seats are available on any given flight.

If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.

Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.


As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.

Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed and probably unauthorised (so buyer beware)


What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...

This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.

There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.

2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.


What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.

The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.


Differences for non-BA airlines
  • Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
  • Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
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Old Mar 21, 18, 3:24 am
  #1351  
 
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Originally Posted by avon75 View Post


thanks for the quick reply.

I’m in WT+ - am guessing an airport upgrade to CW will either be non existent or very expensive ?
If an AUP is available I thought there were relatively standard prices, so around $700-$1,000 on the west coast routes. Looking at the seat map there is only 1 seat unallocated in CW. If it was me, and I really wanted that AUP, I'd be getting to the ticket counter the second it opened. If it helps, here're the seat maps for your flight:
Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.comSeat Map Search:
Departing SJC on 23/03/18 for LHR
Flying BA flight 278 in Business/Club

A B D E F J K
6 - - - - - - -
7 - - - - - - -
A B D E F J K


A B D E F J K
10 W - X - - - X - W
11 W - - - + - - - W
12 W - - - X - - - W
13 W - - - X - - - W
A B D E F J K

Flying BA flight 278 in Premium Economy

A B D E F J K
16 W - - - - - - X W
17 W - - - - - - - W
18 W - - - + - - - W
19 W - - X - - - - W
20 W - - - X X - - W
21 W - - L L L - - W
A B D E F J K




Seats
Premium Only P
Available +
Handicap-Accessible H
Paid & Premium #
Occupied -
Blocked X
Lavatory L
Paid $

Location
Exit Row E
Wing W
Upper Deck U
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Old Mar 21, 18, 4:27 am
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Could someone please check the loads for BA0275 (LHR-LAS) flight for tomorrow (22nd March)? Seems that there are some spare J seats, but haven't been opened up for avios redemptions.

Also BA0279 on Fri 23rd March (LHR-SJC)

Many thanks as always
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Old Mar 21, 18, 4:28 am
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Originally Posted by sudge27 View Post
Could someone please check the loads for BA0275 (LHR-LAS) flight for tomorrow (22nd March)? Seems that there are some spare J seats, but haven't been opened up for avios redemptions.

Many thanks as always
Here you go...

BA 275 LHR
22/03/18 15:50LAS
22/03/18 19:30744
Daily
42% / 48mF1 A0 J1 C0 D0 R0 I0 W2 E0 T0 Y0 B0
H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
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Old Mar 21, 18, 4:40 am
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many thanks Lucanesque - seems those seats have been sold then (was asking for a friend).

I had amended my original post to ask about LHR-SJC BA0279 on Fri 23 as well. I am in J for that flight, but was looking at possibility of First seats being available. If anyone could advise that would be much appreciated
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Old Mar 21, 18, 4:42 am
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F1 A0 J3 C0 D0 R0 I0 W0 E0 T0 Y1 B0
H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0

LHR-SJC BA0279 on Fri 23
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Old Mar 21, 18, 4:42 am
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Originally Posted by sudge27 View Post
many thanks Lucanesque - seems those seats have been sold then (was asking for a friend).

I had amended my original post to ask about LHR-SJC BA0279 on Fri 23 as well. I am in J for that flight, but was looking at possibility of First seats being available. If anyone could advise that would be much appreciated
My pleasure - here's BA279:

BA 279 LHR
23/03/18 12:50SJC
23/03/18 16:50789
Daily
78% / 17mF1 A0 J3 C0 D0 R0 I0 W0 E0 T0 Y1 B0
H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
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Old Mar 21, 18, 6:44 am
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Can anyone check the load on BA2760 for tomorrow (22/03) please? I've been subjected to an OpUp and just interested in why !
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Old Mar 21, 18, 6:46 am
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J4 C4 D2 R4 I4 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L2 V0
N0 Q0 O0 S0 G0

BA2760 22/03
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Old Mar 21, 18, 6:53 am
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Originally Posted by ehud View Post
J4 C4 D2 R4 I4 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L2 V0
N0 Q0 O0 S0 G0

BA2760 22/03
Thanks. No obvious idea why then
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Old Mar 21, 18, 11:57 am
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Can someone please check loads for the following:

LHR - TLV
BA0167 on 29/03/18
BA0165 on 30/03/18

Thanks
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Old Mar 21, 18, 12:52 pm
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Originally Posted by lev441 View Post
Can someone please check loads for the following:

LHR - TLV
BA0167 on 29/03/18
BA0165 on 30/03/18

Thanks
Here you go...

BA 167 LHR
29/03/18 16:45TLV
29/03/18 23:35777
T,W,Th
NA / NAF1 A0 J0 C0 D0 R0 I0 W4 E0 T0 Y1 B0
H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0

BA 165 LHR
30/03/18 8:10TLV
30/03/18 15:00777
Daily
83% / 18mF1 A0 J1 C0 D0 R0 I0 W2 E0 T0 Y0 B0
H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
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Old Mar 21, 18, 3:48 pm
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Originally Posted by Lucanesque View Post
Here you go...

BA 167 LHR
29/03/18 16:45TLV
29/03/18 23:35777
T,W,Th
NA / NAF1 A0 J0 C0 D0 R0 I0 W4 E0 T0 Y1 B0
H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0

BA 165 LHR
30/03/18 8:10TLV
30/03/18 15:00777
Daily
83% / 18mF1 A0 J1 C0 D0 R0 I0 W2 E0 T0 Y0 B0
H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
Wow! No chance of last min avios seats then....

What about BA165 on the Thursday 29th?
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Old Mar 21, 18, 5:05 pm
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Originally Posted by Lucanesque View Post
Here you go...

BA 275 LHR
22/03/18 15:50LAS
22/03/18 19:30744
Daily
42% / 48mF1 A0 J1 C0 D0 R0 I0 W2 E0 T0 Y0 B0
H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
I'm on this flight in F. There are currently 2 seats showing as available (and have done for a week) which would seem strange based on the above.
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Old Mar 22, 18, 2:16 am
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Originally Posted by hartwith View Post
I'm on this flight in F. There are currently 2 seats showing as available (and have done for a week) which would seem strange based on the above.
It was overbooked in J so they were probably keeping an F seat free to accommodate that. Although the loads have changed since yesterday and it is now not overbooked in J - 6 J pax have come off it since yesterday
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Old Mar 22, 18, 2:58 am
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Originally Posted by hartwith View Post
I'm on this flight in F. There are currently 2 seats showing as available (and have done for a week) which would seem strange based on the above.
I see the same if I look at the seat maps (4/5K available), also three seats available in CW. Re-ran the availability search, they're now selling both those F, three in CW, and one in WT+:

BA 275 LHR
22/03/18 15:50LAS
22/03/18 19:30744
Daily
42% / 48mF2 A0 J3 C0 D0 R0 I0 W1 E0 T0 Y0 B0
H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
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