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Help to check BA seat availability and BA flight loads

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This is community help desk which allows members to assist each other in finding out how many seats are available on any given flight.

If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.

Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.


As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.

Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed and probably unauthorised (so buyer beware)


What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...

This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.

There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.

2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.


What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.

The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.


Differences for non-BA airlines
  • Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
  • Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
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Old Mar 13, 18, 12:10 pm
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Originally Posted by lloydy22 View Post



thanks very much.

Quick question, how can this have changed so much? The other day there was only 2 seats available in economy. Now there is loads?
A group, or space held for a group could have cancelled.
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Old Mar 13, 18, 1:29 pm
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Hi, could someone check BA011 - LHR- SIN for this Friday please (16/03)

Thanks
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Old Mar 13, 18, 1:34 pm
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Originally Posted by haroon145 View Post
hi, could someone check ba011 - lhr- sin for this friday please (16/03)

thanks
f5 a4
j7 c1 d0 r0 i0
w1 e0 t0
y7 b4 h1 k1 m1 l1 v1 s1 n0 q0 o0 g0
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Old Mar 13, 18, 2:09 pm
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Can someone kindly check the BA269 LHR to LAX for 22/03.

I am in F on a 241 and it’s looking worryingly full.
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Old Mar 13, 18, 2:17 pm
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Originally Posted by Gomac View Post
Can someone kindly check the BA269 LHR to LAX for 22/03.

I am in F on a 241 and it’s looking worryingly full.
BA 269
LHR 03/22/18 3:30 PM
LAX 03/22/18 7:50 PM
388
Daily
70% / 26m
F1 A0 J9 C2 D1 R0 I0 W9 E5 T0 Y9 B9
H9 K9 M6 L4 V3 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0

It's extremely rare to be downgraded on a 241 and I personally wouldn't worry about it. LAX flight loads change a lot as I have flown this route many a time and no doubt it will change again and within the few days before and on the day itself.
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Old Mar 13, 18, 2:31 pm
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Originally Posted by PETER01 View Post
BA 269
LHR 03/22/18 3:30 PM
LAX 03/22/18 7:50 PM
388
Daily
70% / 26m
F1 A0 J9 C2 D1 R0 I0 W9 E5 T0 Y9 B9
H9 K9 M6 L4 V3 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0

It's extremely rare to be downgraded on a 241 and I personally wouldn't worry about it. LAX flight loads change a lot as I have flown this route many a time and no doubt it will change again and within the few days before and on the day itself.
Thanks Peter I won’t worry too much, there are plenty of other ways to get there in F.

i did find it surprising that last week they were selling F on this service for £3k with only a few seats left vs £4.5k for the other flights the same day which have way more seats to sell.
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Old Mar 13, 18, 3:32 pm
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Originally Posted by Gomac View Post


Thanks Peter I won’t worry too much, there are plenty of other ways to get there in F.

i did find it surprising that last week they were selling F on this service for £3k with only a few seats left vs £4.5k for the other flights the same day which have way more seats to sell.
Hope you have a great flight, F on the A380 is very nice indeed.

Re the pricing, Revenue Management is a dark art, wish I knew more about it!
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Old Mar 14, 18, 7:34 am
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Would some one be good enough to check loads on:
CPT LGW 23rd March 2018 BA2040

very many thanks
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Old Mar 14, 18, 7:38 am
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Originally Posted by simonsmith View Post
Would some one be good enough to check loads on:
CPT LGW 23rd March 2018 BA2040

very many thanks
BA 20400CPT
03/23/18 8:20 PMLGW
03/24/18 6:15 AM777
Su,T,F
83% / 64mJ9 C9 D9 R6 I0 W6 E6 T4 Y9 B9 H9 K9M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9
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Old Mar 14, 18, 8:11 am
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Can anyone provide for :
BA32, 15th March (tomorrow)? HKG-LHR

Thanks!
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Old Mar 14, 18, 8:12 am
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Would anyone be kind enough to check the loads on BA0279 LHR-SJC 23 March, and BA0278 SJC-LHR 3rd April please? Thanks in advance
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Old Mar 14, 18, 8:15 am
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Originally Posted by sudge27 View Post
Would anyone be kind enough to check the loads on BA0279 LHR-SJC 23 March, and BA0278 SJC-LHR 3rd April please? Thanks in advance
Departing LHR on 23/03/18 0:00 for SJC
Returning on 03/04/18 0:00
Point of Sale: UK

Frequency
Flight Stops Depart Arrive Aircraft Reliability Available Classes
0 Connections
BA 279 0 LHR SJC 789 Daily F3 A2 J8 C0 D0 R0 I0 W0 E0 T0 Y2 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
23/03/18 12:50 23/03/18 16:50 79% / 16m

Frequency
Flight Stops Depart Arrive Aircraft Reliability Available Classes
0 Connections
BA 278 0 SJC LHR 789 Daily F4 A3 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9
03/04/18 20:05 04/04/18 14:25 90% / 15m
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Old Mar 14, 18, 11:24 am
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Hi, could someone please check the loads for:

Qatar Airways #726 4/3/2018 ORD>DOH?

Trying to get on the non-stop with the new Q-Suites.

Thank you!
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Old Mar 14, 18, 12:35 pm
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Originally Posted by danhunterpost View Post
hi, could someone please check the loads for:

Qatar airways #726 4/3/2018 ord>doh?

Trying to get on the non-stop with the new q-suites.

Thank you!
j9 c9 d9 i9 r9 y9 b9 h9 k9 m9 l9 v9 s9 n9 q9 t9 o9 w9
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Old Mar 14, 18, 12:48 pm
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How is BA213 LHR-BOS on 16 March looking?
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