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Help to check BA seat availability and BA flight loads

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This is community help desk which allows members to assist each other in finding out how many seats are available on any given flight.

If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.

Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.


As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.

Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed and probably unauthorised (so buyer beware)


What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...

This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.

There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.

2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.


What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.

The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.


Differences for non-BA airlines
  • Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
  • Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
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Old Mar 4, 18, 5:16 pm
  #1231  
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
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Would it please be possible to have the loads for LHR-DXB BA105 05/03/18?

Thanks

G
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Old Mar 4, 18, 5:28 pm
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Originally Posted by BrotherBears View Post
Could someone please check how many seats are available for sale on the following flights:

BA8484 PMI to LCY 9th September 2018
BA2556 LGW to RHO 19th September 2018
BA2557 RHO to LGW 29th September 2018

Thanks in advance

BrotherBears
BA (CJ) 8484 PMI
09/09/18 7:50 PM LCY
09/09/18 9:15 PM E90
J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V7 N0 Q0 O0 S0 G0


BA 2556 LGW
09/19/18 1:25 PM RHO
09/19/18 7:35 PM 320
J9 C7 D3 R9 I4 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 N0 Q0 O0 S0 G0

BA 2557 RHO
09/29/18 10:25 PM LGW
09/30/18 12:40 AM 320
J9 C9 D5 R0 I0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V0 N0 Q0 O0 S0 G0

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Old Mar 4, 18, 5:30 pm
  #1233  
 
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Originally Posted by George Eldridge View Post
Would it please be possible to have the loads for LHR-DXB BA105 05/03/18?

Thanks

G
This is 5th March. Expert Flyer uses the US date format.

BA 105 LHR
03/05/18 8:40 PM DXB
03/06/18 7:45 AM 777
F1 A0 J3 C0 D0 R0 I0 W2 E0 T0 Y6 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
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Old Mar 6, 18, 2:23 am
  #1234  
 
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Just wondering about LGW-ANU BA2157 on 24th June,

It says on BA.com that First is not operated on this flight but the seat map is showing a 4 class 777 - J starts at row 10.

Is it possible to check the true details?

Thanks.
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Old Mar 6, 18, 2:32 am
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Originally Posted by Toonfan View Post
Just wondering about LGW-ANU BA2157 on 24th June,

It says on BA.com that First is not operated on this flight but the seat map is showing a 4 class 777 - J starts at row 10.

Is it possible to check the true details?

Thanks.
Hi EF is showing a 4-class bird, but with F blocked. It's a 3-class route, so they will only open First if it's needed. I believe it's then done by status. Club is not busy at the moment (still showing I9 - in fact WT still has Q availability and WTP T7), and as it's more of a holiday route possibly less likely to fill up last minute.
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Old Mar 6, 18, 2:59 am
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Thank you.
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Old Mar 6, 18, 4:19 am
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Hey, could someone please check the flight loads for the following flights:

BA2062 MRU to LGW 6th March 2018
BA0991 TXL to LHR 7th March 2018

Thanks a lot!
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Old Mar 6, 18, 4:28 am
  #1238  
 
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Originally Posted by panix View Post
hey, could someone please check the flight loads for the following flights:

Ba2062 mru to lgw 6th march 2018
ba0991 txl to lhr 7th march 2018

thanks a lot!
uk pos

ba 2062
mru 06/03/18 21:10
lgw 07/03/18 5:35
777
j0 c0 d0 r0 i0 w5 e5 t4 y9 b8 h8 k6 m6 l6 v6 s6 n6 q6 o9 g9

ba 991
txl 07/03/18 11:00
lhr 07/03/18 12:05
320
j6 c0 d0 r0 i0 y5 b1 h0 k0 m0 l0 v0 n0 q0 o0 s0 g0
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Old Mar 6, 18, 4:34 am
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Load check please

Can someone please let me know the loads for IAD-LHR-MAA (BA 292-BA35) departing IAD on Mar 26 at 10:20 pm?

Thanks.
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Old Mar 6, 18, 4:37 am
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Originally Posted by blacklab1 View Post
can someone please let me know the loads for iad-lhr-maa (ba 292-ba35) departing iad on mar 26 at 10:20 pm?

Thanks.
uk pos

ba 292
iad 26/03/18 22:20
lhr 27/03/18 10:35
744
f9 a8 j9 c9 d9 r9 i9 w9 e9 t9 y9 b9 h9 k9 m9 l9 v9 s9 n9 q9 o9 g9

ba 35
lhr 27/03/18 13:00
maa 28/03/18 3:30
788
j9 c9 d9 r9 i9 w9 e9 t9 y9 b9 h9 k9 m9 l9 v9 s9 n9 q9 o9 g9
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Old Mar 6, 18, 4:51 am
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Can someone help me interpret this for a long-haul to Rio on a 787 please?

J9 C9 D9 R8 I8 W1 E0 T0 Y6 B4 H4 K4 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0

Do I interpret this correctly in saying that WTP is pretty much full, but Club empty - i.e. a decent chance of an upgrade? I'm booked in WTP.
Also: another friend in WT is deciding whether he should pay for his seat upfront... I can't really judge, does WT look fairly full from these figures?

Thanks very much!
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Old Mar 6, 18, 5:00 am
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Originally Posted by just_starting View Post
Can someone help me interpret this for a long-haul to Rio on a 787 please?

J9 C9 D9 R8 I8 W1 E0 T0 Y6 B4 H4 K4 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0

Do I interpret this correctly in saying that WTP is pretty much full, but Club empty - i.e. a decent chance of an upgrade? I'm booked in WTP.
Also: another friend in WT is deciding whether he should pay for his seat upfront... I can't really judge, does WT look fairly full from these figures?

Thanks very much!
WTP is full and WT is almost full. Fairly good chance of a few people moving forward from WT and therefore bumping WTP pax into CW.

CW appears wide open.
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Old Mar 6, 18, 5:08 am
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Originally Posted by Wozza2404 View Post
WTP is full and WT is almost full. Fairly good chance of a few people moving forward from WT and therefore bumping WTP pax into CW.

CW appears wide open.
Thanks - I take it I'll tell my mates in the back to pay for a good seat then, and I'm hoping Silver might be enough to bump me+1 up to WTP... Probably wishful thinking!
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Old Mar 6, 18, 8:31 am
  #1244  
 
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Originally Posted by just_starting View Post
Thanks - I take it I'll tell my mates in the back to pay for a good seat then, and I'm hoping Silver might be enough to bump me+1 up to WTP... Probably wishful thinking!
If you haven't been upgraded to CW before and haven't purchased a CW ticket in the past I'd say your chances are very good.
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Old Mar 6, 18, 8:34 am
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Originally Posted by Wozza2404 View Post
If you haven't been upgraded to CW before and haven't purchased a CW ticket in the past I'd say your chances are very good.
I've had two WT->WTP upgrades on BA holiday bookings and one or two redemption bookings in CW. Never paid for a CW fare though if that makes a difference - try to avoid BA on long-haul business :-)

Does not having paid for a CW ticket before really make a difference when it comes to upgrades? I always thought that was just a myth...

Thanks!
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