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Help to check BA seat availability and BA flight loads

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This is community help desk which allows members to assist each other in finding out how many seats are available on any given flight.

If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.

Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.


As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.

Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed and probably unauthorised (so buyer beware)


What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...

This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.

There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.

2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.


What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.

The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.


Differences for non-BA airlines
  • Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
  • Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
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Old Feb 20, 18, 6:13 am
  #1186  
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
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Originally Posted by Stewie Mac View Post
Would someone please check loads for SA-LHR flights on Friday 2 March (that's both JNB and CPT, so 54, 56, 58 and 42)? Many thanks indeed.
With SA POS (2nd March)

BA56: F0 A0 J0 C0 D0 R0 I0 W0 E0 T0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0

BA54: F0 A0 J0 C0 D0 R0 I0 W0 E0 T0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0

BA58: F0 A0 J2 C0 D0 R0 I0 W0 E0 T0 Y9 B7 H3 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0

BA42: F0 A0 J0 C0 D0 R0 I0 W0 E0 T0 Y7 B1 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0

With UK POS (2nd March)

BA56: F0 A0 J1 C0 D0 R0 I0 W1 E0 T0 Y1 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0

BA54: F1 A0 J3 C0 D0 R0 I0 W1 E0 T0 Y2 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0

BA58: F0 A0 J6 C1 D0 R0 I0 W1 E0 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V8 S7 N6 Q2 O0 G0

BA42: F0 A0 J3 C1 D0 R0 I0 W0 E0 T0 Y9 B7 H8 K6 M3 L3 V3 S2 N0 Q0 O0 G0
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Old Feb 20, 18, 7:49 am
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Originally Posted by BertieBadger View Post
J9 C0 D0 R0 I0 W7 E4 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M8 L5 V3 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G9 (Canada POS)

J9 C0 D0 R0 I0 W7 E0 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M8 L5 V2 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G9 (UK POS)
Thanks so much!!!
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Old Feb 20, 18, 8:55 am
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Could someone pls check the loading for

BA207 LHR-MIA - 21/Feb/18 - 09:15
BA206 MIA-LHR - 25/Feb/18 - 17:15

Many thanks in advance
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Old Feb 20, 18, 11:22 am
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BA 207 - 21 Feb
F0 A0 J9 C0 D0 R0 I0 W6 E1 T0 Y9 B9H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N0 Q0 O0 G9

BA206 - 25 Feb
F0 A0 J1 C0 D0 R0 I0 W1 E0 T0 Y6 B4H1 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
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Old Feb 20, 18, 7:26 pm
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Can any one give me a view on BA8 from Tokyo to LHR leaving this Friday 23 Feb 18 at 0945?

thanks in advance
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Old Feb 20, 18, 7:38 pm
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UK Point of Sale

BA 8
HND 02/23/18 9:45 AM
LHR 02/23/18 1:25 PM
777
Su,M,W,F,Sa
76% / 32m
F4 A3 J9 C0 D0 R0 I0 W9 E0 T0 Y9 B9 H8 K5 M4 L3 V0 S0 N9 Q0 O9 G9

Wide open.
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Old Feb 20, 18, 8:24 pm
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Originally Posted by flyuk View Post
UK Point of Sale

BA 8
HND 02/23/18 9:45 AM
LHR 02/23/18 1:25 PM
777
Su,M,W,F,Sa
76% / 32m
F4 A3 J9 C0 D0 R0 I0 W9 E0 T0 Y9 B9 H8 K5 M4 L3 V0 S0 N9 Q0 O9 G9

Wide open.
Thank you ! Fingers crossed Iíll be able to get a AUP for W to J.
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Old Feb 21, 18, 12:31 am
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Hello please could somebody check the loads for BA35 LHR to MAA on 28 March. Many thanks and much appreciated. Or is it too far in advance?
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Old Feb 21, 18, 1:33 am
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Originally Posted by CharlotteC View Post
Hello please could somebody check the loads for BA35 LHR to MAA on 28 March. Many thanks and much appreciated. Or is it too far in advance?
Here you go.
UK Point of Sale:

BA 35
LHR 03/28/18 1:00 PM
MAA 03/29/18 3:30 AM
788
J9 C9 D9 R9 I7 W9 E9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G0

And USA Point of Sale for same:

J9 C9 D9 R8 I8 W9 E9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N3 Q0 O0 G0

Looks pretty wide open in the premium cabins. Also still showing as a B787-8
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Old Feb 21, 18, 3:02 pm
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Hello! First time posting here.

Would someone mind checking the loads for BA2167 LGW-TPA on the 25th Feb? Any help is appreciated.

Thanks!
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Old Feb 21, 18, 3:52 pm
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Originally Posted by BertieBadger View Post
Here you go.
UK Point of Sale:

BA 35
LHR 03/28/18 1:00 PM
MAA 03/29/18 3:30 AM
788
J9 C9 D9 R9 I7 W9 E9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G0

And USA Point of Sale for same:

J9 C9 D9 R8 I8 W9 E9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N3 Q0 O0 G0

Looks pretty wide open in the premium cabins. Also still showing as a B787-8
Thank you
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Old Feb 22, 18, 1:42 am
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Hello,
could somebody please check the load for BA0056 on the 22.02.?

​​​​Thank you very much in advance.
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Old Feb 22, 18, 4:50 am
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Originally Posted by nils21 View Post
hello,
could somebody please check the load for ba0056 on the 22.02.?

thank you very much in advance.
UK point-of-sale:
F2 A0 J2 C1 D0 R0 I0 W2 E0 T0 Y2 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
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Old Feb 22, 18, 5:00 am
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Originally Posted by FlyerDan91 View Post
Hello! First time posting here.

Would someone mind checking the loads for BA2167 LGW-TPA on the 25th Feb? Any help is appreciated.

Thanks!
Welcome! Please do stay around and contribute where you can.

Here you go. UK Point of sale
.
BA 2167
LGW 02/25/18 12:30 PM
TPA 02/25/18 5:25 PM
777
Su,M,T,Th,F,Sa
59% / 24m
J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9

Not quite sure what's going on there tbh! EF shows only 4 seats unoccupied in J, albeit with 9 more blocked, but why I9?

It is showing a 4 class 777 with all of F currently blocked off, so maybe they are planning to oversell J and roll people forward into "Flub" class? W and Y cabins mostly empty by the seat map, but obviously many people do not select until check in, so I don't know you can read anything into that.
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Old Feb 22, 18, 5:16 am
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Originally Posted by Virazuno View Post
UK point-of-sale:
F2 A0 J2 C1 D0 R0 I0 W2 E0 T0 Y2 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
that was quick. Thank you so much!
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