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This is community help desk which allows members to assist each other in finding out how many seats are available on any given flight.

If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.

Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.


As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.

Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed and probably unauthorised (so buyer beware)


What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...

This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.

There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.

2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.


What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.

The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.


Differences for non-BA airlines
  • Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
  • Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
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Old Jan 22, 18, 2:58 am
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Wow! Many thanks.
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Old Jan 22, 18, 3:46 am
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Can someone please help me with BA087 on 22/04?

Many thanks!
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Old Jan 22, 18, 3:51 am
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Originally Posted by Usavril View Post
Can someone please help me with BA087 on 22/04?

Many thanks!
Where from and To?
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Old Jan 22, 18, 3:53 am
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From LHR to SFO
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Old Jan 22, 18, 3:55 am
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Originally Posted by Usavril View Post
From LHR to SFO
Then you meant the BA287 and not the BA87 (Which last flew over 2 years ago LHR-YVR)

BA 287 0 LHR
22/04/18 2:15 PM SFO
22/04/18 5:20 PM 388
Daily
47% / 41m F7 A6 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E9 T2 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G0
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Old Jan 22, 18, 3:57 am
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Yes sorru, I forgot the "2"
Thanks! Seems to be good
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Old Jan 22, 18, 11:28 am
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A newbie here who has just noticed this rather useful thread.

Where can I find out what the letters mean? I know a couple but it would be useful to see the whole list and I know they will be somewhere in the forum but haven't found them yet.

What is the loading like for

13/3/18 LHR-JNB BA57
30/3/18 JNB-LHR BA56

Many thanks in advance
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Old Jan 22, 18, 11:40 am
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Originally Posted by Karen762 View Post
A newbie here who has just noticed this rather useful thread.

Where can I find out what the letters mean? I know a couple but it would be useful to see the whole list and I know they will be somewhere in the forum but haven't found them yet.

What is the loading like for

13/3/18 LHR-JNB BA57
30/3/18 JNB-LHR BA56

Many thanks in advance
UK Point of Sale:

BA 57 0LHR
03/13/18 9:10 PMJNB
03/14/18 10:15 AM388
Su,T,W,Th,F
75% / 23mF4 A3 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E9 T9 Y9 B9
H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9

What this means: nothing, it's too far out (2 months) so the plane looks very empty right now. There are fewer seats than normal in First Class (F, A classes)

BA 56 0JNB
03/30/18 7:20 PMLHR
03/31/18 5:30 AM388
Daily
93% / 18mF9 A8 J9 C9 D9 R9 I0 W9 E9 T9 Y9 B9
H6 K6 M6 L5 V4 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0

What this means: Fuller, as the cheapest tickets in Economy and Business are sold out (I class in business, S, N, Q, O, G in Economy). However again it is too early to tell what kind of flight it will look like.
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Old Jan 22, 18, 11:55 am
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I knew it wouldn't tell me too much and I'll ask again just before going but just intrigued as to how seats go - really want to learn more about this so will be reading lots of the posts but there's SO many!

However many thanks for this
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Old Jan 22, 18, 12:04 pm
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Originally Posted by Karen762 View Post
I knew it wouldn't tell me too much and I'll ask again just before going but just intrigued as to how seats go - really want to learn more about this so will be reading lots of the posts but there's SO many!

However many thanks for this
A couple of extra bits of info that might be of use:

First = F, A
Club = J, C, D, R, I
WTP = W, E, T
WT = everything else

Within each cabin, the letter on the left is most flexible/expensive booking class and generally the less flexible/less expensive the ticket as you move to the right.
The number represents how many tickets in that booking class available. For BA the max number is 9. 9, therefore, could mean 9 available or any number above 9 available.
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Old Jan 24, 18, 1:58 am
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Hello there,

Could anyone check the load of BA 73 LHR - AUH on the 23rd of February as well as BA 104 DXB - LHR on the 26h of February ?

Thanks
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Old Jan 24, 18, 3:05 am
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Originally Posted by K2World View Post
Hello there,

Could anyone check the load of BA 73 LHR - AUH on the 23rd of February as well as BA 104 DXB - LHR on the 26h of February ?

Thanks
sure here you go:

​​​​​​​BA73: F2 A1 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E9 T9 Y9 B9H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9

​​​​​​​BA104: F1 A0 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W3 E1 T0 Y9 B9H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O0 G3
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Old Jan 24, 18, 5:40 am
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Originally Posted by timcjp View Post


sure here you go:

BA73: F2 A1 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E9 T9 Y9 B9H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9

​​​​​​​BA104: F1 A0 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W3 E1 T0 Y9 B9H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O0 G3
Thank you
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Old Jan 24, 18, 11:26 am
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Could someone check the loads for 26JAN BA 811, CPH-LHR and BA225, LHR-MSY? Thanks
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Old Jan 24, 18, 11:46 am
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Originally Posted by SK AAR View Post
Could someone check the loads for 26JAN BA 811, CPH-LHR and BA225, LHR-MSY? Thanks
Here you go: (UK POS)

BA811 : J6 C2 D0 R0 I0 Y4 B2 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 N0 Q0 O0 S0 G0
BA225 : J9 C0 D0 R0 I0 W9 E5 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N6 Q0 O0 G9
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