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Help to check BA seat availability and BA flight loads

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This is community help desk which allows members to assist each other in finding out how many seats are available on any given flight.

If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.

Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.


As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.

Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
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What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...

This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.

There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.

2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.


What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.

The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.


Differences for non-BA airlines
  • Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
  • Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
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Old Dec 26, 17, 1:41 pm
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Originally Posted by Oaxaca View Post


UK POS

J6 C4 D1 R0 I0 Y8 B6 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0N0 Q0 O0 S0 G4

EF is showing an A321, and looking at the seat map, it looks like a mid-haul 321, with 8 rows of Club in 1-2 / 2-1 configuration.



Thank you!
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Old Dec 26, 17, 4:59 pm
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Could somebody please check the loads for LHR-MCT BA0079 on 11th March,
and the return MCT-LHR on 18th March BA0080.

TIA

DtB
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Old Dec 26, 17, 5:05 pm
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Originally Posted by Down the back View Post
Could somebody please check the loads for LHR-MCT BA0079 on 11th March,
and the return MCT-LHR on 18th March BA0080.

TIA

DtB
Here you go:

BA79 :: F4 A3 J9 C9 D9 R9 I3 W9 E9 T7 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9
BA80 :: F2 A1 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9
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Old Dec 26, 17, 5:11 pm
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Originally Posted by timcjp View Post
Here you go:

BA79 :: F4 A3 J9 C9 D9 R9 I3 W9 E9 T7 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9
BA80 :: F2 A1 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9
Thanks timcjp,

I guess very little chance to use GUF2 or UUA into First especially on BA80 :-(

Regards

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Old Dec 26, 17, 5:14 pm
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Could somebody please check the loads for LHR-MEX BA0243 on 27th Sep
and the return MEX-LHR BA0242 on 11th Oct.

TIA

Regards

DtB
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Old Dec 26, 17, 5:19 pm
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Originally Posted by Down the back View Post
Thanks timcjp,

I guess very little chance to use GUF2 or UUA into First especially on BA80 :-(

Regards

DtB
You should be able to use the GUF2 with a travel agent as they only need availability in A. Looking at www.baredemptionfinder.com I couldn't see any First availability for your dates so this might be the only way, unless you have a joker that you could ask GGL to make award space available...
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Old Dec 26, 17, 5:22 pm
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Originally Posted by Down the back View Post
Could somebody please check the loads for LHR-MEX BA0243 on 27th Sep
and the return MEX-LHR BA0242 on 11th Oct.

TIA

Regards

DtB
Here you go:

BA243 :: F8 A2 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E9 T5 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q0 O0 G0
BA242 :: F8 A2 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E9 T7 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q0 O0 G9
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Old Dec 26, 17, 5:33 pm
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Hi Tim,

Unfortunately I don't have a Joker, I've booked WTP and UUA into CW out and back was hoping to use a GUF2 which I will get wk beg 8th of Jan,
I have CW using a 241 booked to MEX for Sep, so hopefully something will open up in First for me to use the GUF2 then ?

Thanks

DtB

Originally Posted by timcjp View Post
You should be able to use the GUF2 with a travel agent as they only need availability in A. Looking at www.baredemptionfinder.com I couldn't see any First availability for your dates so this might be the only way, unless you have a joker that you could ask GGL to make award space available...
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Old Dec 26, 17, 5:36 pm
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Hi Tim,

This looks more promising, have you any idea when they would open up Avios seats in First if the load stays like this ?

Regards

DtB

Originally Posted by timcjp View Post
Here you go:

BA243 :: F8 A2 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E9 T5 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q0 O0 G0
BA242 :: F8 A2 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E9 T7 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q0 O0 G9
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Old Dec 26, 17, 5:49 pm
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Can somebody be so kind to post the seatmap and loads for BA280 LAX-LHR 10th Jan 18? More interested in the seatmap of J due to seat selection issues.
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Old Dec 26, 17, 6:25 pm
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Originally Posted by arh1 View Post
Can somebody be so kind to post the seatmap and loads for BA280 LAX-LHR 10th Jan 18? More interested in the seatmap of J due to seat selection issues.
Here you go:


F6 A5 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E5 T2 Y9 B9 H9 K8 M5 L2 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G3
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Old Dec 26, 17, 6:27 pm
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Originally Posted by Down the back View Post
Hi Tim,

This looks more promising, have you any idea when they would open up Avios seats in First if the load stays like this ?

Regards

DtB
Sorry, no idea! But you can set up an alert on https://www.baredemptionfinder.com/ which will email you if/when availability opens up.
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Old Dec 26, 17, 11:07 pm
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Could anyone help me interpret these numbers? In J and interested to undderstand if it is oversold as would like to study what happens onboard. (Happy in 64K being a short overnight flight!)

(29/12/17) - UAE POS
BA 106DXB 2:25a → LHR 6:25a
F9 A8 J4 C0 D0 R0 I0 W5 E3 T1 Y9 B7 H4 K4 M4 L4 V4 S4 N4 Q4 O0 G0
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Old Dec 27, 17, 1:04 am
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Originally Posted by Foofighter69 View Post
Could anyone help me interpret these numbers? In J and interested to undderstand if it is oversold as would like to study what happens onboard. (Happy in 64K being a short overnight flight!)

(29/12/17) - UAE POS
BA 106DXB 2:25a → LHR 6:25a
F9 A8 J4 C0 D0 R0 I0 W5 E3 T1 Y9 B7 H4 K4 M4 L4 V4 S4 N4 Q4 O0 G0

First = F, A
Club = J, C, D, R, I
WTP = W, E, T
WT = everything else

Within each cabin, the letter on the left is most flexible/expensive booking class and generally the less flexible/less expensive the ticket as you move to the right.
The number represents how many tickets in that booking class available. For BA the max number is 9. 9, therefore, could mean 9 available or any number above 9 available.

Impossible to say for sure if/when oversold. However, I would say that Club is looking pretty busy and as there are still lots of First tickets available, overselling in Club could be possible with some lucky people upgraded. Hope that helps!
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Old Dec 27, 17, 3:30 am
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Could someone check BA67 LHR-PHL on 9th Jan. Iím booked into WTP
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