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This is community help desk which allows members to assist each other in finding out how many seats are available on any given flight.

If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.

Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.


As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.

Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed and probably unauthorised (so buyer beware)


What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...

This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.

There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.

2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.


What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.

The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.


Differences for non-BA airlines
  • Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
  • Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
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Old Dec 10, 17, 4:22 am
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How about BA16 SYD - LHR on 13 Dec. On a 2-4-1 in club and a bit worried, looking at the seat map. A bit of interpretation would go down well too!
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Old Dec 10, 17, 6:28 am
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Originally Posted by louie-m View Post
How about BA16 SYD - LHR on 13 Dec. On a 2-4-1 in club and a bit worried, looking at the seat map. A bit of interpretation would go down well too!
Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.com
Code:
Seat Map Search:
Departing SYD on 12/13/17 for LHR
Flying BA flight 16 in First, Business/Club

A E F K
1 - - - -
2 - - - -
3 - -
4 - + - -
A E F K



A B D E F G J K
10 - - + + + + - -
11 - - - - - - - -
12 - - - - - X - -
13 - - - - - - - -
14 W - - - - - X - - W
15 W - - - - - X - - W
16 W - - - X - - X - W
A B D E F G J K




Seats
Premium Only P
Available +
Handicap-Accessible H
Paid & Premium #
Occupied -
Blocked X
Lavatory L
Paid $

Location
Exit Row E
Wing W
Upper Deck U

F1 A0 J4 C0 D0 R0 I0 W1 E0 T0 Y5 B3 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0

Not too bad for 3 days in advance. What would you worry about?
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Old Dec 10, 17, 4:14 pm
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Thanks for that.

Originally Posted by duvin View Post
Not too bad for 3 days in advance. What would you worry about?
Well, we've taken this flight at this time of year for the last few years and far, far more seats were available for purchase in the run up. Maybe that just means that BA's policy of trying to force people to pay for seats is working.
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Old Dec 12, 17, 6:10 pm
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Originally Posted by Frequent flyer 101 View Post
f2 a1 j9 c9 d9 r0 i0 w9 e9 t8 y9 b9 h9 k7 m5 l3 v1 s0 n0 q0 o0 g0
Thank you Frequent flyer 101.
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Old Dec 12, 17, 6:12 pm
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Hi again,

Would someone mind looking at LHR to SIN 13 December BA11 again...seat map showing 1 seat in J.

Thanks!
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Old Dec 12, 17, 7:52 pm
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Originally Posted by tm84 View Post
Hi again,

Would someone mind looking at LHR to SIN 13 December BA11 again...seat map showing 1 seat in J.

Thanks!
BA 110LHR
12/13/17 7:05 PMSIN
12/14/17 3:55 PM388
Daily
54% / 29mF0 A0 J0 C0 D0 R0 I0 W1 E0 T0 Y0 B0
H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0

That's one packed a380...

Seat map:

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Old Dec 13, 17, 1:14 am
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Hi all-
could someone please check the load on BA 217 from LHR-IAD on Dec. 15 for me? Thanks much.
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Old Dec 13, 17, 1:26 am
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Here you go whimsey21......

Flight Stops Depart Arrive Aircraft Reliability Available Classes
0 Connections
BA 217 0 LHR IAD 744 Daily F4 A2 J9 C3 D0 R0 I0 W9 E0 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L6 V3 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G8
12/15/17 11:30 AM 12/15/17 2:55 PM 71% / 30m
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Old Dec 13, 17, 2:23 am
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Originally Posted by Bat 21 View Post
Here you go whimsey21......

Flight Stops Depart Arrive Aircraft Reliability Available Classes
0 Connections
BA 217 0 LHR IAD 744 Daily F4 A2 J9 C3 D0 R0 I0 W9 E0 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L6 V3 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G8
12/15/17 11:30 AM 12/15/17 2:55 PM 71% / 30m
Thank you fir the very quick response. Looks like we’ll have some space back in WT.
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Old Dec 13, 17, 10:02 am
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Originally Posted by BA Humbug View Post
BA 110LHR
12/13/17 7:05 PMSIN
12/14/17 3:55 PM388
Daily
54% / 29mF0 A0 J0 C0 D0 R0 I0 W1 E0 T0 Y0 B0
H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0

That's one packed a380...

Seat map:

Thanks! You’re right, it does look full!
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Old Dec 15, 17, 12:54 am
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is someone able to check the following for me please?

25 Dec LHR to BOM on BA0199
05 Jan BOM to LHR on BA0198
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Old Dec 16, 17, 1:38 am
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Can I ask a check for:

BA15 SIN to SYD next Friday the 22nd?
Expertflyer seems to show 10 selectable seats in WTP and about 28 in the Club cabin.

For the last Friday night before Christmas it seems the economy cabin is pretty light?

thanks,
Globalist


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Old Dec 16, 17, 1:47 am
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Originally Posted by rtidrtid View Post
is someone able to check the following for me please?

25 Dec LHR to BOM on BA0199
05 Jan BOM to LHR on BA0198
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Old Dec 16, 17, 1:49 am
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Originally Posted by Globalist View Post
Can I ask a check for:

BA15 SIN to SYD next Friday the 22nd?
Expertflyer seems to show 10 selectable seats in WTP and about 28 in the Club cabin.

For the last Friday night before Christmas it seems the economy cabin is pretty light?

thanks,
Globalist

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Old Dec 16, 17, 2:31 am
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Originally Posted by timcjp View Post
wow, I assume they oversold WT and that upgrades from WTP to Club could be appearing...

the loads are more in line with my original expectation.

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