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Help to check BA seat availability and BA flight loads

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This is community help desk which allows members to assist each other in finding out how many seats are available on any given flight.

If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.

Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.


As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.

Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
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What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...

This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.

There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.

2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.


What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.

The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.


Differences for non-BA airlines
  • Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
  • Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
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Old Nov 25, 17, 11:11 am
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Originally Posted by sunshinebob View Post
Grateful if anyone can update with the loads on these two flights please..
  1. BA105 LHR to Dubai on the 29th November leaving at 20:40: F8 A7 J9 C3 D0 R0 I0 W9 E9 T5 Y9 B9 H8 K8 M8 L8 V8 S8 N6 Q4 O0 G0
  2. BA 106 Dubai to LHR on the 4th December leaving at 02:25: F1 A0 J9 C2 D0 R0 I0 W0 E0 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N0 Q0 O0 G0
Will make a Kama Coffee donation on your behalf, many thanks in advance...
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Old Nov 25, 17, 11:13 am
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Originally Posted by rockflyertalk View Post
Hi,

I'd appreciate if someone could check loads on BA112, JFK-LHR, 28th Nov, next week.: F1 A0 J9 C0 D0 R0 I0 W9 E5 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M7 L4 V1 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G9

Thanks.
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Old Nov 26, 17, 1:08 am
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BA 262, RUH - LHR 22 Dec

BA263 LHR - RUH, 30 Dec

For RUH pos please.

Thanks!
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Old Nov 26, 17, 3:59 am
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I would much appreciate it if somebody would please give me an update on the loads for the following;-

BA1347 LBA - LHR 31 Dec 2017
BA207 LHR - MIA 1 Jan 2018
BA208 MIA -LHR 14 Jan 2018
BA1344 LHR - LBA 15 Jan 2018

Thanks very much
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Old Nov 26, 17, 4:27 am
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Originally Posted by londonbus View Post
ba 262, ruh - lhr 22 dec

ba263 lhr - ruh, 30 dec

for ruh pos please.

Thanks!
BA262
f4 a0 j1 c0 d0 r0 i0 w0 e0 t0 y0 b0 h0 k0 m0 l0 v0 s0 n0 q0 o0 g0

BA263
f9 a6 j9 c9 d9 r9 i9 w9 e3 t0 y9 b9 h9 k9 m9 l9 v9 s6 n2 q0 o0 g0

Originally Posted by fcfc View Post
i would much appreciate it if somebody would please give me an update on the loads for the following;-

ba1347 lba - lhr 31 dec 2017
ba207 lhr - mia 1 jan 2018
ba208 mia -lhr 14 jan 2018
ba1344 lhr - lba 15 jan 2018

thanks very much
BA1347
j9 c9 d4 r9 i9 y9 b9 h9 k9 m9 l9 v9 n9 q9 o8 s9 g9

BA207
f6 a5 j9 c9 d9 r9 i9 w9 e9 t5 y9 b9 h9 k9 m9 l9 v9 s9 n8 q5 o3 g0

BA208
f2 a0 j9 c9 d9 r9 i9 w9 e9 t0 y9 b9 h9 k9 m6 l3 v1 s0 n0 q0 o0 g0

BA1344
j9 c9 d4 r9 i9 y9 b9 h9 k9 m9 l9 v9 n9 q9 o5 s9 g9
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Old Nov 27, 17, 6:23 am
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loads for BA

Hello crewmates!

I found this group Flydirekt Loads on facebook and it is very useful for loads requests. You can ask loads for any airlines or any route. Also, they update you 1 or 2 days before your flight! Enjoy

https://www.facebook.com/groups/272825109896978/
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Old Nov 27, 17, 9:31 am
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Hi everyone, I would really appreciate if someone could check the Y load on the following flight

BA0142 DEL - LHR 02.Dec

Many thanks in advance
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Old Nov 27, 17, 9:38 am
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Originally Posted by nswat View Post
Hi everyone, I would really appreciate if someone could check the Y load on the following flight

BA0142 DEL - LHR 02.Dec

Many thanks in advance
Busy!

SAT 02DEC17 DELHI /LONDON AREA
1 DEL LHR 0320 0735 BA 142
F1 A0 J2 C0 DC RC IC W3 EC TC Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 LC VC SC NC QC OC G0
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Old Nov 27, 17, 10:27 am
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ouch! many thanks for looking it up!
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Old Nov 27, 17, 11:07 am
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LHR IAH Wed 29 Nov 2017 09:25 (BA0195)
IAH LHR Sun 03 Dec 2017 16:00 (BA0194)
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Old Nov 27, 17, 3:14 pm
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hello
would someone be able to check
LHR-CPT Fri 01 Dec 2017 18:10 (BA43)
CPT-LHR Wed 06 Dec 2017 21:20 (BA42)

I am in CW which I think is a great place to be for this route, but not having Expert Flyer I was having a play on matrix to see if I understood it, and it suggested that on the outbound there was still quite a lot of space (at least 5 I think) in WTP, at least 8 in CW, and they were selling "Q" bucket in WT suggesting not a huge load in WT, so am I right in thinking this is not that full a flight?

For my return BA42 it suggested (to me) that the plane was stuffed to the gills, with no seats in WTP or CW, and just 1 seat in F.
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Old Nov 28, 17, 2:37 am
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LHR - LAX 17 December - BA 269

Thanks in advance.
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Old Nov 28, 17, 2:41 am
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Originally Posted by peterrabbit View Post
lhr iah wed 29 nov 2017 09:25 (ba0195)
iah lhr sun 03 dec 2017 16:00 (ba0194)
ba195
f6 a5 j9 c0 d0 r0 i0 w9 e1 t0 y9 b9 h9 k9 m9 l6 v3 s0 n0 q0 o0 g9

ba194
f7 a6 j9 c1 d1 r0 i0 w9 e5 t0 y9 b4 h1 k1 m1 l1 v1 s1 n1 q1 o6 g4

Originally Posted by snuffi View Post
hello
would someone be able to check
lhr-cpt fri 01 dec 2017 18:10 (ba43)
cpt-lhr wed 06 dec 2017 21:20 (ba42)

i am in cw which i think is a great place to be for this route, but not having expert flyer i was having a play on matrix to see if i understood it, and it suggested that on the outbound there was still quite a lot of space (at least 5 i think) in wtp, at least 8 in cw, and they were selling "q" bucket in wt suggesting not a huge load in wt, so am i right in thinking this is not that full a flight?

For my return ba42 it suggested (to me) that the plane was stuffed to the gills, with no seats in wtp or cw, and just 1 seat in f.
ba43
f5 a4 j8 c0 d0 r0 i0 w6 e0 t0 y9 b9 h9 k9 m9 l9 v9 s9 n9 q5 o4 g0

ba42
f1 a0 j0 c0 d0 r0 i0 w0 e0 t0 y9 b9 h9 k9 m9 l9 v9 s9 n9 q9 o7 g0

Originally Posted by acbs View Post
lhr - lax 17 december - ba 269

thanks in advance.
ba269
f3 a2 j9 c9 d9 r9 i9 w9 e5 t0 y9 b9 h9 k9 m9 l9 v9 s9 n8 q1 o0 g0
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Old Nov 28, 17, 6:49 am
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ba43
f5 a4 j8 c0 d0 r0 i0 w6 e0 t0 y9 b9 h9 k9 m9 l9 v9 s9 n9 q5 o4 g0
ba42
f1 a0 j0 c0 d0 r0 i0 w0 e0 t0 y9 b9 h9 k9 m9 l9 v9 s9 n9 q9 o7 g0


Thanks Florens, seems that I can use Matrix to get to an approximate answer albeit that a bit of trial and error is required. What is interesting is whether on the BA43 the 8J is related in any way to the F5 A4, ie they might oversell CW knowing they can push a few forward, rather than fly J seats empty. As I say, my chief interest on this flight is actually sleeping so as to be ready for a big day around the Western Cape on Saturday - I actually think that is better achieved in 64K than in any seat in First so my interest here was just to understand if I could interpret ITA with any accuracy, and then see what the plane actually looks like in a few days. Ditto on the way back, I am due at work - fully functional - by 9am!
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Old Nov 28, 17, 7:00 pm
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Hi guys, could someone please check this for me?

GRU - LHR 7 January - BA 246

Thanks in advance.

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