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This is community help desk which allows members to assist each other in finding out how many seats are available on any given flight.

If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.

Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.


As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.

Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed and probably unauthorised (so buyer beware)


What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...

This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.

There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.

2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.


What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.

The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.


Differences for non-BA airlines
  • Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
  • Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
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Old Nov 21, 17, 9:11 am
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Originally Posted by jms_uk View Post
With USA PoS:

BA284: F2 A1 J7 C4 D3 R0 I0 W4 E0 T0 Y9 B9H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9

BA287: F3 A2 J6 C3 D1 R0 I0 W9 E5 T0 Y9 B9H9 K9 M9 L9 V8 S3 N0 Q0 O0 G0
Thank You
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Old Nov 22, 17, 1:30 am
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BA 248 December 10 GIG-LHR. I'm actually very interested to know why, on this day only, the price of WT has suddenly jumped to $1300 while WT+ is cheaper at $900 (glitch?). Other flights in that same period remain normal
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Old Nov 22, 17, 2:37 am
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Originally Posted by BrianWBrazil View Post
BA 248 December 10 GIG-LHR. I'm actually very interested to know why, on this day only, the price of WT has suddenly jumped to $1300 while WT+ is cheaper at $900 (glitch?). Other flights in that same period remain normal
If there is more than 1 of you - would certainly explain it as only selling 1 x WT seat.

I'd suggest in most cases T Class (WTP) is cheaper than most of the WT fare classes available that day. It's very rare to see more T than Y seats available. Use it to your advantage and upgrade?

SUN 10DEC17 RIO DE JANEI/LONDON AREA
GIG LHR 2300#1210 BA 248
J9 C9 D9 R8 I4 W4 E4 T3 Y1 B1 H1 K1 M1 L1 VC SC NC QC OC G0

Compared to day before / after it looks like something up - big group or something in Economy on the 10th?

SAT 09DEC17 RIO DE JANEI/LONDON AREA
1 GIG LHR 09/2300#1210 BA 248
J9 C9 D9 R9 I5 W5 E5 T2 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 OC G0

MON 11DEC17 RIO DE JANEI/LONDON AREA
1 GIG LHR 11/2300#1210 BA 248
J9 C9 D9 R9 I7 W6 E5 T5 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G0
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Old Nov 22, 17, 3:11 am
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Originally Posted by Sam Bee View Post
Compared to day before / after it looks like something up - big group or something in Economy on the 10th?
Thanks Sam. I am already booked into CW with my family and we were looking forward to a nice empty cabin as the seat map has remained empty for months, but it now looks like everyone will be getting upgraded from the rear cabins. I am intrigued as to what type of group would be flying on that particular day.
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Old Nov 22, 17, 3:43 am
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Originally Posted by BrianWBrazil View Post
Thanks Sam. I am already booked into CW with my family and we were looking forward to a nice empty cabin as the seat map has remained empty for months, but it now looks like everyone will be getting upgraded from the rear cabins. I am intrigued as to what type of group would be flying on that particular day.
Don't know - there will be a lot of Tour Groups going out, but they only really take 20 odd seats max. Could be a conference, event, cruise, anything. Mind you the 788 only has 150 odd Y seats, so a group of 40 could easily lead to this result. Would be a good day to be a Gold single traveller in economy.
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Old Nov 22, 17, 9:26 am
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Hi Can someone update me on loads on the following please?

DXB-LHR BA108 Nov 30
LHR-SJC BA279 Nov 30
SJC - LHR BA278 Dec 05

many Thanks B
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Old Nov 22, 17, 9:51 am
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Originally Posted by baileysserpant View Post
Hi Can someone update me on loads on the following please?

DXB-LHR BA108 Nov 30: F1 A0 J3 R0 D0 I0 W0 P0 Y1 H0 K0 M0 L0 G0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0
LHR-SJC BA279 Nov 30: F3 A2 J9 C9 D9 R9 I0 W9 E9 T5 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9
SJC - LHR BA278 Dec 05: F2 A1 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E9 T5 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9
many Thanks B
As was pointed out to me I think this is availability, not loads, so hope this is what you're after. I'm still learning.
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Old Nov 22, 17, 9:59 am
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Originally Posted by fin_dg View Post
As was pointed out to me I think this is availability, not loads, so hope this is what you're after. I'm still learning.
you are quite right. thanks B
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Old Nov 22, 17, 1:00 pm
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Hello, could someone possibly check loads on the following flights, please:

BA0016 SYD-LHR 16 December 2017
BA0015 LHR-SYD 22 December 2017

Thank you very much
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Old Nov 22, 17, 1:24 pm
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Originally Posted by hostime View Post
Hello, could someone possibly check loads on the following flights, please:

BA0016 SYD-LHR 16 December 2017: F1 A0 J9 C7 D6 R4 I0 W0 E0 T0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
BA0015 LHR-SYD 22 December 2017: F0 A0 J9 C8 D6 R4 I0 W8 E6 T0 Y2 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
Thank you very much
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Old Nov 22, 17, 3:31 pm
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Can anyone look these up for me. Thanks in advance.

23 Nov CX354 LGW > HKG
27 Nov CX343 HKG > LGW
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Old Nov 22, 17, 3:36 pm
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Originally Posted by jday View Post
Can anyone look these up for me. Thanks in advance.

23 Nov CX354 LGW > HKG
27 Nov CX343 HKG > LGW
Here you go, with UK POS:

CX354 23 November
J9 C9 D9 I9 W9 R9 E9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O8

CX343 27 November
J0 C0 D0 I0 W9 R9 E9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9
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Old Nov 22, 17, 4:29 pm
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Could someone possibly check:

LHR-JFK - BA173 @ 11.20 on December 2nd

and

YYZ-LHR - BA92 @ 18.20 on December 8th
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Old Nov 22, 17, 4:31 pm
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And sorry, forgot to add:

LHR-GIG - BA249 @ 11.35 on December 30th

and

GRU-LHR - BA246 @ 17.25 on January 7th
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Old Nov 22, 17, 10:23 pm
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Originally Posted by AdBoy View Post
Could someone possibly check:

LHR-JFK - BA173 @ 11.20 on December 2nd: F1 A0 J9 C7 D6 R4 I0 W0 E0 T0 Y9 B9 H7 K6 M2 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
and
YYZ-LHR - BA92 @ 18.20 on December 8th: F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 R9 I0 W1 E0 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q8 O5 G5
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