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Old Jul 9, 2017, 11:09 am
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This is community help desk which allows members to assist each other in finding out how many seats are available on any given flight.

If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.

Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.


As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.

Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed and probably unauthorised (so buyer beware)


What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...

This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.

There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.

2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.


What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.

The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.


Differences for non-BA airlines
  • Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
  • Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
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Old Oct 24, 2017, 2:11 pm
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BA0059

Hi - I've had a look on the seat map and it looks very busy. I've got two club world seats, blue member, and no pairs left...

what are are the chances that seats will open up at t-24?

BA0059 on Friday 27 Oct
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Old Oct 25, 2017, 2:13 am
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Hi, thanks for creating such a useful thread.

Could someone kindly check:

BA232 DME-LHR 27/10/17
BA233 LHR-DME 29/10/17

Please excuse first post newbie cheekiness!

Spasiba!
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Old Oct 25, 2017, 2:15 am
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Originally Posted by Etting
Hi - I've had a look on the seat map and it looks very busy. I've got two club world seats, blue member, and no pairs left...

what are are the chances that seats will open up at t-24?

BA0059 on Friday 27 Oct
What route is that?

Originally Posted by Muscovite
Hi, thanks for creating such a useful thread.

Could someone kindly check:

BA232 DME-LHR 27/10/17
BA233 LHR-DME 29/10/17

Please excuse first post newbie cheekiness!

Spasiba!
Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.com
Code:
Flight Availability Search
Departing DME on 10/27/17 12:00 AM for LHR
Flying BA  
Direct/Non-Stop Only
Point of Sale: UK


                                                                     Frequency
Flight        Stops  Depart             Arrive             Aircraft  Reliability     Available Classes

0 Connections
BA 232        0      DME                LHR                777       Daily           F1 A1 J0 C0 D0 R0 I0 W3 E0 T0 Y5 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0 
                     10/27/17 4:05 PM   10/27/17 6:00 PM             88% / 23m
Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.com
Code:
Flight Availability Search
Departing LHR on 10/29/17 12:00 AM for DME
Flying BA  
Direct/Non-Stop Only
Point of Sale: UK


                                                                     Frequency
Flight        Stops  Depart             Arrive             Aircraft  Reliability     Available Classes
0 Connections
BA 233        0      LHR                DME                777       Daily           F9 A9 J9 C2 D1 R0 I0 W9 E9 T5 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q0 O0 G9 
                     10/29/17 8:40 AM   10/29/17 3:20 PM             89% / 10m
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Old Oct 25, 2017, 2:24 am
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Originally Posted by florens
What route is that?


[/CODE]
It's LHR to Cape Town

the seat map is only showing one seat available - which is a bit concerning
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Old Oct 25, 2017, 2:27 am
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Originally Posted by Etting
It's LHR to Cape Town

the seat map is only showing one seat available - which is a bit concerning
Quite a few blocked seats, I'm sure you'll get more choices at T-24.

Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.com
Code:
Seat Map Search:
Departing LHR on 10/27/17 for CPT
Flying BA flight 59 in Business/Club

        A   B       D   E   F   G       J   K   
17  W   -   -       -   X   X   -       -   -   W   
18  W   -   X       X   +   -   -       -   -   W   
19  W   -   -       X   X   X   -       -   -   W   
20  W   -   -       X   X   X   X       X   -   W   
        A   B       D   E   F   G       J   K   


            A   B       J   K   
60  U       -   X       -   -       U   
61  U       -   -       -   -       U   
62  U   E   -   -       -   -   E   U   
63  U   E   -   -       -   -   E   U   
64  U       X   -       -   -       U   
            A   B       J   K   




Seats
Premium Only             P                        
Available                +                        
Handicap-Accessible      H                        
Paid & Premium           #                        
Occupied                 -                        
Blocked                  X                        
Lavatory                 L                        
Paid                     $                        

Location
Exit Row                 E                        
Wing                     W                        
Upper Deck               U
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Old Oct 25, 2017, 2:32 am
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Originally Posted by florens
Quite a few blocked seats, I'm sure you'll get more choices at T-24.

Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.com
Code:
Seat Map Search:
Departing LHR on 10/27/17 for CPT
Flying BA flight 59 in Business/Club

        A   B       D   E   F   G       J   K   
17  W   -   -       -   X   X   -       -   -   W   
18  W   -   X       X   +   -   -       -   -   W   
19  W   -   -       X   X   X   -       -   -   W   
20  W   -   -       X   X   X   X       X   -   W   
        A   B       D   E   F   G       J   K   


            A   B       J   K   
60  U       -   X       -   -       U   
61  U       -   -       -   -       U   
62  U   E   -   -       -   -   E   U   
63  U   E   -   -       -   -   E   U   
64  U       X   -       -   -       U   
            A   B       J   K   




Seats
Premium Only             P                        
Available                +                        
Handicap-Accessible      H                        
Paid & Premium           #                        
Occupied                 -                        
Blocked                  X                        
Lavatory                 L                        
Paid                     $                        

Location
Exit Row                 E                        
Wing                     W                        
Upper Deck               U
Nice one thanks - put my mind at rest
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Old Oct 25, 2017, 3:04 am
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Many thanks, Florens, much appreciated.
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Old Oct 25, 2017, 5:12 am
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BAW 209 LON-MIA on the 5th of November

Many thanks!
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Old Oct 25, 2017, 5:14 am
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Originally Posted by freemind
baw 209 lon-mia on the 5th of november

many thanks!
uk pos

ba 209
lhr 05/11/17 14:15
mia 05/11/17 19:10
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f1 a0 j7 c4 d3 r0 i0 w1 e0 t0 y9 b9 h9 k9 m9 l9 v9 s9 n1 q1 o0 g9
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Old Oct 25, 2017, 9:45 am
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Hi, could someone kindly check for me:

BA5 LHR-NRT 31/10/17

Many thanks!
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Old Oct 25, 2017, 10:17 am
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Originally Posted by rewardscollector
hi, could someone kindly check for me:

Ba5 lhr-nrt 31/10/17

many thanks!
f5 a5 j9 c9 d9 r9 i0 w9 e5 t0 y9 b9 h9 k9 m8 l5 v2 s0 n9 q0 o9 g9
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Old Oct 25, 2017, 11:40 am
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BA 446 LHR to AMS on 30 October

Please could someone check if 8E is blocked or occupied

Thank you
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Old Oct 26, 2017, 12:40 pm
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Hello, please could someone check what the loading is on BA2688 tomorrow morning in the Y cabin, it leaves LGW at 06:30 and arriving into Genoa (GOA) at 09:35.

Am debating whether to go for a POUG into C.....and I will if the Y section looks too crowded.

Thanks
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Old Oct 26, 2017, 12:45 pm
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BA055 on 31/10 please
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Old Oct 26, 2017, 12:59 pm
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Originally Posted by boh
hello, please could someone check what the loading is on ba2688 tomorrow morning in the y cabin, it leaves lgw at 06:30 and arriving into genoa (goa) at 09:35.

Am debating whether to go for a poug into c.....and i will if the y section looks too crowded.

Thanks
ba 2688 0 lgw
27/10/17 6:30 am goa
27/10/17 9:35 am 320

j9 c7 d3 r9 i9 y9 b9 h9 k9 m9 l9 v9 n9 q9 o6 s9 g9
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