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Help to check BA seat availability and BA flight loads

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This is community help desk which allows members to assist each other in finding out how many seats are available on any given flight.

If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.

Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.


As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.

Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed and probably unauthorised (so buyer beware)


What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...

This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.

There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.

2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.


What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.

The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.


Differences for non-BA airlines
  • Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
  • Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
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Old Oct 17, 17, 8:47 am
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Hello ,
Please could someone help out for the following:

23 october 17 dxb-lhr ba 106
23 october 17 lhr-bru ba 392

thanx a lot in advance for the help.
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Old Oct 17, 17, 9:00 am
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Originally Posted by diamantaire View Post
Hello ,
Please could someone help out for the following:

23 october 17 dxb-lhr ba 106
23 october 17 lhr-bru ba 392

thanx a lot in advance for the help.
Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.com
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Flight Availability Search
Departing DXB on 10/23/17 12:00 AM for LHR
Flying BA  
Direct/Non-Stop Only
Point of Sale: UAE


                                                                     Frequency
Flight        Stops  Depart             Arrive             Aircraft  Reliability     Available Classes
0 Connections
BA 106        0      DXB                LHR                744       Daily           F3 A3 J9 C9 D9 R9 I0 W2 E0 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9 
                     10/23/17 1:30 AM   10/23/17 6:15 AM             97% / 14m
Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.com
Code:
Flight Availability Search
Departing LHR on 10/23/17 12:00 AM for BRU
Flying BA  
Point of Sale: UK



0 Connections
BA 392        0      LHR                BRU                320       Daily           J0 C0 D0 R0 I0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 N0 Q0 O0 S0 G0 
                     10/23/17 8:25 AM   10/23/17 10:35 AM            84% / 9m
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Old Oct 17, 17, 9:53 am
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@florens thanx a lot
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Old Oct 17, 17, 12:35 pm
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Anyone able to check availability in J and F on BA282 LAX-LHR on 24th October? Thanks in advance!

Last edited by Savvysaz; Oct 17, 17 at 1:12 pm Reason: Want to add F
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Old Oct 17, 17, 1:58 pm
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F4 A3
J9 C6 D2 R0 I0
W9 E5 T0
Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O0 G8

Full-ish - still some F space at the moment but that could go quite easily.

Limited J availability - looks like J9 could be made up of C6 + A3 with op-ups, but they're willing to sell down to D (quite a low bucket for a week out).

E5 is also reasonably quiet in WTP, though probably fairly full on the day - also looking very spacious in economy with G8. (I know you only asked about the premium cabins but upgrades to the front often come from the back).
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Old Oct 17, 17, 2:00 pm
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Can someone please check BA109 (LHR-DXB) tomorrow (18th October). Thanks!

Wondering what my chances are of an Op Up from WTP.

out if interest it would be good to know what the loading is on the following too:
BA105 (18th October)
BA106 (23rd October)

Thanks!
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Old Oct 17, 17, 2:09 pm
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Originally Posted by Foofighter69 View Post
Can someone please check BA109 (LHR-DXB) tomorrow (18th October). Thanks!

Wondering what my chances are of an Op Up from WTP.

out if interest it would be good to know what the loading is on the following too:
BA105 (18th October)
BA106 (23rd October)

Thanks!
BA109:

F0 A0
J7 C5 D5 R0 I0
W3 E1 T1
Y4 B2 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
Looking promising for someone to be upgraded based on rolling forward, but E1/T1 suggests there might be some physical seats (though Y4 probably means there'll be upgrades to take them). Some available, unblocked seats in J/W/Y, too. WTP probably cheaper than Y.

BA105 tomorrow very similar, but more so - lots of roll-forward upgrades there I'm sure:

F1 A1
J9 C6 D6 R3 I0
W1 E0 T0
Y2 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
BA106 on the 23rd:

F2 A2
J9 C6 D0 R0 I0
W3 E1 T1
Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9
Plenty of time to sell some cheap, last-minute economy tickets to push people forward but looking like a full F and W, quieter in J and Y. But a week out, perhaps that's not surprising and could still get very full indeed.
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Old Oct 17, 17, 2:45 pm
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Thanks Cymro, much appreciated. I never get how to judge how full a cabin really is - does Y4 B2 suggest oversold?
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Old Oct 18, 17, 1:46 am
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Originally Posted by Foofighter69 View Post
Can someone please check BA109 (LHR-DXB) tomorrow (18th October). Thanks!

Wondering what my chances are of an Op Up from WTP.
Currently 6 spare seats in W
Y is overbooked by 1
5 spare in Club (But the standbys will fill these)
F full

G-VIIE due t operate it
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Old Oct 18, 17, 9:39 am
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Could someone advise re the current load for BA173 LHR > JFK this Sunday (22 Oct)?

Thanks in advance !
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Old Oct 18, 17, 9:49 am
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Anyone know what the load for tomorrow's (19/10) BA269 LHR-LAX is? In WT, and when checking in (starting from ARN) 24hrs before, almost all seats already occupied. Only a few spare middle/aisle seats, and this even before OLCI opens for LHR origin pax.

Must be a busy flight.
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Old Oct 18, 17, 10:06 am
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Originally Posted by B747forever View Post
Anyone know what the load for tomorrow's (19/10) BA269 LHR-LAX is? In WT, and when checking in (starting from ARN) 24hrs before, almost all seats already occupied. Only a few spare middle/aisle seats, and this even before OLCI opens for LHR origin pax.

Must be a busy flight.
Uk POS

F0 A0 J3 C0 D0 R0 I0 W8 E0 T0 Y5 B1 H1 K1 M1 L1 V1 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
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Old Oct 18, 17, 10:25 am
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Originally Posted by MHendo84 View Post
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F0 A0 J3 C0 D0 R0 I0 W8 E0 T0 Y5 B1 H1 K1 M1 L1 V1 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
Busy then. Was just surprised to see so many seats already taken when OLCI had not even opened for LHR origin pax which I guess makes up most of the pax on the flight.

Thanks!
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Old Oct 18, 17, 10:25 am
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Would somebody be able to check the following

BA093 LHR YYZ Nov 24th
BA092 YYZ LHR Nov 26th

Many thanks in advance
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Old Oct 18, 17, 10:28 am
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Originally Posted by ibbitsc View Post
could someone advise re the current load for ba173 lhr > jfk this sunday (22 oct)?

Thanks in advance !
uk pos

f3 a2 j9 c3 d3 r0 i0 w6 e0 t0 y6 b6 h3 k0 m0 l0 v0 s0 n0 q0 o0 g0
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