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This is community help desk which allows members to assist each other in finding out how many seats are available on any given flight.

If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.

Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.


As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.

Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed and probably unauthorised (so buyer beware)


What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...

This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.

There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.

2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.


What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.

The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.


Differences for non-BA airlines
  • Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
  • Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
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Old Oct 13, 17, 7:35 am
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Originally Posted by peterinlewesuk View Post
uk pos

ba 84
yvr 13/10/17 20:55
lhr 14/10/17 14:15
744
f5 a4 j1 c0 d0 r0 i0 w4 e0 t0 y9 b9 h9 k9 m8 l6 v3 s0 n0 q0 o0 g9
Thanks for the speedy reply.
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Old Oct 14, 17, 3:37 am
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Not sure if this is the right thread but can anyone with expert flyer access check a flight for me? BA199 to Mumbai, on the 9th November. There are 2 seats left I can move to in first, its my first time in first and were taking up 4 seats on 2 2-4-1s - wondering if this is looking good/bad? Thanks.
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Old Oct 14, 17, 4:31 am
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Originally Posted by Lewis King View Post
Not sure if this is the right thread but can anyone with expert flyer access check a flight for me? BA199 to Mumbai, on the 9th November. There are 2 seats left I can move to in first, its my first time in first and were taking up 4 seats on 2 2-4-1s - wondering if this is looking good/bad? Thanks.
EF has F0 A0 so no F tickets available to purchase. The EF seat map is showing all seats taken except 4E/F. This is a 12F seat 777 rather than the more usual 14.

With no new tickets available to purchase I would expect the chance of any problem for you to be low. Enjoy the flight.
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Old Oct 14, 17, 4:37 am
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Originally Posted by Rubecula View Post
EF has F0 A0 so no F tickets available to purchase. The EF seat map is showing all seats taken except 4E/F. This is a 12F seat 777 rather than the more usual 14.

With no new tickets available to purchase I would expect the chance of any problem for you to be low. Enjoy the flight.
4E/F being free is what I see when I go to change my seats. Thank you for checking for me, I really appreciate the effort! Very kind!
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Old Oct 14, 17, 4:48 pm
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Could someone help me to check the following flight availability:

JFK-BCN
AA 66
May 10th 2018

Thanks!
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Old Oct 15, 17, 2:01 am
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Originally Posted by FlyerWx View Post
Could someone help me to check the following flight availability:

JFK-BCN
AA 66
May 10th 2018

Thanks!
Don't know what you do with it this early (and this is the BA forum as well), but here goes:

US POS

Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.com
Code:
Flight Availability Search
Departing JFK on 05/10/18 12:00 AM for BCN
Flying AA  
Direct/Non-Stop Only
Exclude Codeshares


                                                                     Frequency
Flight        Stops  Depart             Arrive             Aircraft  Reliability     Available Classes
0 Connections
AA 66         0      JFK                BCN                772       Daily           J7 R7 D7 I7 Y7 B0 H7 K7 M7 L7 G7 V7 S7 N0 Q0 O7 
                     05/10/18 5:35 PM   05/11/18 7:10 AM             72% / 28m
As expected, everything is as available as possible.
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Old Oct 16, 17, 8:54 am
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Would someone be kind enough to check the following for me?

CX888 Oct 23 YVR > JFK only
CX889 Oct 29 JFK > YVR only

Much appreciated!
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Old Oct 16, 17, 8:57 am
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Originally Posted by lovince View Post
would someone be kind enough to check the following for me?

Cx888 oct 23 yvr > jfk only
cx889 oct 29 jfk > yvr only

much appreciated!
cx888 23/10 f4 a3 j9 c9 d9 i9 w9 r9 e9 y9 b9 h9 k9 m9 l9 v9 s9 n9 q9 o9
cx889 29/10 f4 a4 j9 c9 d9 i9 w9 r9 e9 y9 b9 h9 k9 m9 l9 v9 s9 n9 q9 o9
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Old Oct 16, 17, 9:05 am
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Love it! Thanks for the quick reply!
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Old Oct 16, 17, 1:17 pm
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Could someone help me to check the following flight availability:

BA1347 LBA -LHR 31/12/17
BA207 LHR-MIA 1/1/18
BA208 MIA-LHR 14/1/18
BA1344 LHR-LBE 15/1/18
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Old Oct 16, 17, 2:31 pm
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Hello

Can someone help with the loads on:

BA 033.
LHR to KUL
17/10/17

Thanks

Last edited by Duvall101; Oct 16, 17 at 4:01 pm
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Old Oct 17, 17, 12:56 am
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Originally Posted by Duvall101 View Post
Hello

Can someone help with the loads on:

BA 033.
LHR to KUL
17/10/17

Thanks
UK POS

Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.com
Code:
Flight Availability Search
Departing LHR on 10/17/17 12:00 AM for KUL
Flying BA  
Direct/Non-Stop Only
Exclude Codeshares


                                                                     Frequency
Flight        Stops  Depart             Arrive             Aircraft  Reliability     Available Classes
0 Connections
BA 33         0      LHR                KUL                789       Daily           F2 A1 J3 C1 D1 R0 I0 W4 E2 T2 Y3 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0 
                     10/17/17 8:15 PM   10/18/17 4:05 PM             77% / 26m
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Old Oct 17, 17, 1:01 am
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Originally Posted by fcfc View Post
Could someone help me to check the following flight availability:

BA1347 LBA -LHR 31/12/17
BA207 LHR-MIA 1/1/18
BA208 MIA-LHR 14/1/18
BA1344 LHR-LBE 15/1/18
UK POS

No surprises here

Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.com
Code:
Flight Availability Search

BA 1347       0      LBA                LHR                319       Daily           J9 C9 D4 R9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 N9 Q9 O9 S9 G9 
                     12/31/17 9:20 AM   12/31/17 10:35 AM            NA / NA

BA 207        0      LHR                MIA                744       Daily           F9 A8 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E9 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V8 S3 N0 Q0 O0 G0 
                     01/01/18 9:15 AM   01/01/18 2:05 PM             65% / 14m

BA 208        0      MIA                LHR                388       Daily           F4 A3 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E9 T2 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G0 
                     01/14/18 9:25 PM   01/15/18 10:50 AM            82% / 42m

BA 1344       0      LHR                LBA                319       Su,M,T,W,Th,F   J9 C9 D4 R9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 N9 Q9 O9 S9 G9 
                     01/15/18 5:30 PM   01/15/18 6:35 PM             71% / 18m
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Old Oct 17, 17, 1:51 am
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Thanks for the quick response.

Originally Posted by duvin View Post
UK POS

Frequency
Flight Stops Depart Arrive Aircraft Reliability Available Classes
0 Connections
BA 33 0 LHR KUL 789 Daily F2 A1 J3 C1 D1 R0 I0 W4 E2 T2 Y3 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
10/17/17 8:15 PM 10/18/17 4:05 PM 77% / 26m

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Old Oct 17, 17, 6:00 am
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Originally Posted by Duvall101 View Post
Hello

Can someone help with the loads on:

BA 033.
LHR to KUL
17/10/17

Thanks
ITs overbooked in economy but seats available in all other classes
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