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This is community help desk which allows members to assist each other in finding out how many seats are available on any given flight.

If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.

Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.


As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.

Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed and probably unauthorised (so buyer beware)


What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...

This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.

There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.

2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.


What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.

The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.


Differences for non-BA airlines
  • Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
  • Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
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Old Sep 8, 17, 12:47 pm
  #331  
 
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Hi can someone please help out:

10 sept 17 BA109 LHR-DXB
24 sept 17 BA106 DXB-LHR

Thanx a lot in advance !!
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Old Sep 8, 17, 2:05 pm
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Originally Posted by diamantaire View Post
Hi can someone please help out:

10 sept 17 BA109 LHR-DXB
24 sept 17 BA106 DXB-LHR

Thanx a lot in advance !!
BA 109
LHR 09/10/17 9:20 PM
DXB 09/11/17 7:30 AM
777
Daily
F0 A0 J2 C0 D0 R0 I0 W9 E5 T0 Y7 B4 H1 K1 M1 L1 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0

BA 106
DXB 09/24/17 1:30 AM
LHR 09/24/17 6:15 AM
777
Daily
F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E9 T6 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N5 Q0 O0 G0

Pilot37
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Old Sep 8, 17, 2:07 pm
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Originally Posted by Pilot37 View Post
BA 109
LHR 09/10/17 9:20 PM
DXB 09/11/17 7:30 AM
777
Daily
F0 A0 J2 C0 D0 R0 I0 W9 E5 T0 Y7 B4 H1 K1 M1 L1 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0

BA 106
DXB 09/24/17 1:30 AM
LHR 09/24/17 6:15 AM
777
Daily
F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E9 T6 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N5 Q0 O0 G0

Pilot37
Thanx a lot Pilot37
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Old Sep 9, 17, 6:09 am
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Please could someone help me

23rd Sept 17 BA0079 LHR-MCT
1st Oct 17 BA0080 MCT-LHR

Thanks
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Old Sep 9, 17, 6:35 am
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Originally Posted by Djdj View Post
Please could someone help me

23rd Sept 17 BA0079 LHR-MCT
1st Oct 17 BA0080 MCT-LHR

Thanks
BA 79LHR 7:45p → MCT 7:10a
F1 A0 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E9 T5 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G2


BA 80MCT 8:15a → LHR 1:30p
F8 A8 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E9 T6 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G3


Excuse the formating. Posting from phone.

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Old Sep 9, 17, 6:47 am
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Originally Posted by Sealink View Post
BA 79LHR 7:45p → MCT 7:10a
F1 A0 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E9 T5 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G2


BA 80MCT 8:15a → LHR 1:30p
F8 A8 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E9 T6 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G3


Excuse the formating. Posting from phone.

Wow thank you!
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Old Sep 11, 17, 12:52 am
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Could someone please check BA0033 LHR-KUL on Tuesday 10th October?

Thanks
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Old Sep 11, 17, 1:48 am
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Originally Posted by florens View Post
Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.com
Code:
Flight Availability Search
Departing LHR on 03/30/18 12:00 AM for BEY
Flying BA  
Direct/Non-Stop Only
Point of Sale: UK


                                                                     Frequency
Flight        Stops  Depart             Arrive             Aircraft  Reliability     Available Classes
0 Connections
BA 149        0      LHR                BEY                321       Daily           J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0 
                     03/30/18 2:40 PM   03/30/18 9:30 PM             63% / 19m
Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.com
Code:
Seat Map Search:
Departing LHR on 03/30/18 for BEY
Flying BA flight 149 in Business/Club, Economy

        A   C       D   F   
1       +           H   +       
2       -   -           +       
3       +           -   -       
4       +   H           +       
5       +           H   +       
6       +   H           +       
7   E   +               +   E   
8       +   H           +       
        A   C       D   F
Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.com
Code:
Seat Map Search:
Departing LHR on 03/30/18 for BEY
Flying BA flight 149 in Business/Club, Economy

        A   B   C       D   E   F   
9   W   X   +   +       +   +   X   W   
10  W   +   +   +       +   +   +   W   
11  W   +   +   +       +   +   +   W   
12  W   +   +   +       +   +   +   W   
14  W   +   +   +       +   +   +   W   
15  W   +   +   +       +   +   +   W   
16  W   +   +   +       +   +   +   W   
17  W   +   +   +       +   +   +   W   
18      +   +   +       +   +   +       
19      +   +   H       H   +           
        A   B   C       D   E   F   


        A   B   C       D   E   F   
20  E   X   X   X       X   -   -   E   
21      +   +   +       +   +   +       
22      +   +   +       +   +   +       
23      +   +   +       +   +   +       
24      +   +   +       +   +   +       
25      +   +   +       +   +   +       
26      +   +   +       +   +   +       
27      +   +   +       +   +   +       
28      +   +   +       +   +   +       
29      +   +   +       +   +   +       
30      +   +   +       +   +   +       
31      +   +   H       H   +   +       
        A   B   C       D   E   F
Thank you florens.
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Old Sep 11, 17, 3:12 am
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Can anyone check ba2167 lgw-tpa on 13th September

BA showing zero but want to check that's not because they are planning to cancel it. thanks!
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Old Sep 11, 17, 4:39 am
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Originally Posted by Eaunoire View Post
Can anyone check ba2167 lgw-tpa on 13th September

BA showing zero but want to check that's not because they are planning to cancel it. thanks!
I imagine they would only cancel it if the airport cannot handle flights on the 13th, which is possible. There are a lot of people trying to get to / from Florida with todays / tomorrows rotations already cancelled.

Flight's not full - only in WT and WT+.

WED 13SEP17 LONDON AREA /TAMPA
1 LGW TPA 1150 1615
BA2167 J2 C1 DC RC IC W0 EC TC Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 LC VC SC NC QC OC G0
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Old Sep 11, 17, 4:46 am
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Originally Posted by Sam Bee View Post
I imagine they would only cancel it if the airport cannot handle flights on the 13th, which is possible. There are a lot of people trying to get to / from Florida with todays / tomorrows rotations already cancelled.

Flight's not full - only in WT and WT+.

WED 13SEP17 LONDON AREA /TAMPA
1 LGW TPA 1150 1615
BA2167 J2 C1 DC RC IC W0 EC TC Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 LC VC SC NC QC OC G0
great thanks for checking
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Old Sep 11, 17, 5:59 am
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Originally Posted by gallagher View Post
could someone please check ba0033 lhr-kul on tuesday 10th october?

Thanks
Pretty quiet except F, which may only be looking full because of the small cabin on the 789.

f3 a2
j9 c9 d9 r9 i9
w9 e9 t8
y9 b9 h9 k9 m9 l9 v9 s9 n9 q9 o9 g0
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Old Sep 11, 17, 6:06 am
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Originally Posted by Cymro View Post
Pretty quiet except F, which may only be looking full because of the small cabin on the 789.

f3 a2
j9 c9 d9 r9 i9
w9 e9 t8
y9 b9 h9 k9 m9 l9 v9 s9 n9 q9 o9 g0
thank you
F is my worry as I'm flying on a 2-4-1 Amex voucher
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Old Sep 11, 17, 6:11 am
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Originally Posted by gallagher View Post
thank you
F is my worry as I'm flying on a 2-4-1 Amex voucher
I still wouldn't worry.

Currently it looks as though there are two empty seats in F (not unsold, actually empty, as they only oversell by one at most). That means that, in the ten months or so the flight has been open for sale, they've sold four First tickets plus your 2-4-1.

Most A class (discounted F) fares are also fairly flexible (think of the change fee as a proportion of the ticket price) which means that F often sees someone disappear at the last minute - plus you have good rerouting options through HKG and SIN too if, somehow, you did get bumped.
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Old Sep 11, 17, 6:42 pm
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Could someone please check BA0008 HAN-LHR on Saturday 16th September?
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