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Old Jul 9, 2017, 11:09 am
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This is community help desk which allows members to assist each other in finding out how many seats are available on any given flight.

If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.

Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.


As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.

Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed and probably unauthorised (so buyer beware)


What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...

This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.

There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.

2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.


What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.

The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.


Differences for non-BA airlines
  • Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
  • Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
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Old Dec 14, 2018, 6:39 pm
  #2851  
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
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Can somebody show me the seat map for BA7301 LCY-LIN on 29th Jan? I am slightly tempted by my POUG offer as this flight is operated by Stobart Air, but this is on the assumption that I will be able to get one of the proper short haul J seats.

[the first three rows appear to be blocked on the seat selection page of MMB, I am assuming that these are blocked so that they can use them for CE if they need the space]
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Old Dec 15, 2018, 4:57 pm
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Hi

Could someone kindly check BA2273 LGW-JFK on the 20th Dec 18. Thanks.

Happy holidays.
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Old Dec 16, 2018, 12:21 pm
  #2853  
 
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Originally Posted by rockflyertalk
Hi

Could someone kindly check BA2273 LGW-JFK on the 20th Dec 18. Thanks.

Happy holidays.
BA 2273 0 LGW
20/12/18 4:45 PM JFK
20/12/18 7:55 PM 777
Daily
69% / 21m J5 C5 D3 R3 I0 W9 E9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9
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Old Dec 16, 2018, 12:24 pm
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Originally Posted by wilsnunn
Can somebody show me the seat map for BA7301 LCY-LIN on 29th Jan? I am slightly tempted by my POUG offer as this flight is operated by Stobart Air, but this is on the assumption that I will be able to get one of the proper short haul J seats.

[the first three rows appear to be blocked on the seat selection page of MMB, I am assuming that these are blocked so that they can use them for CE if they need the space]
Here you go...

Seatplan for 7301 LCY-LIN 29 Jan
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Old Dec 17, 2018, 12:32 pm
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Hi - would someone mind checking BA31 LHR to HKG in 27 December?

Thanks.
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Old Dec 17, 2018, 12:37 pm
  #2856  
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Peterborough, UK
Programs: BA Silver; IHG Spire; Avis P+; Global Entry
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Hey,

can someone check ba99 on the 22nd for me, lhr-yyz.

i saw they swapped the 788 out with the 789 and I’m in economy, hoping there is an op up
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Old Dec 17, 2018, 1:00 pm
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Originally Posted by Will100
Hi - would someone mind checking BA31 LHR to HKG in 27 December?

Thanks.
BA 31 0 LHR
27/12/18 6:25 PM HKG
28/12/18 2:20 PM 777
Daily
58% / 29m F2 A1 J8 C5 D5 R4 I0 W6 E0 T0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
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Old Dec 17, 2018, 1:01 pm
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Originally Posted by aidy
Hey,

can someone check ba99 on the 22nd for me, lhr-yyz.

i saw they swapped the 788 out with the 789 and I’m in economy, hoping there is an op up
BA 99 0 LHR
22/12/18 5:05 PM YYZ
22/12/18 8:10 PM 789
Daily
52% / 46m J9 C0 D0 R0 I0 W9 E5 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
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Old Dec 18, 2018, 8:14 am
  #2859  
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Programs: BA Gold
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Hi All,

Can someone check the BA59 to CPT on Thu 20/12 for me please? Seat plan for club looks pretty busy with only a few seats not taken.

Thanks
GavT
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Old Dec 18, 2018, 8:25 am
  #2860  
 
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Can someone check 14th/15th/16th January BA31/BA27 LHR-HKG in CW, if possible?

Thanks
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Old Dec 18, 2018, 10:34 pm
  #2861  
 
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Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by GavT_london
Hi All,

Can someone check the BA59 to CPT on Thu 20/12 for me please? Seat plan for club looks pretty busy with only a few seats not taken.

Thanks
GavT
BA 59 0 LHR
20/12/18 21:30 CPT
21/12/18 11:05 744
Daily
76% / 14m F0 A0 J5 C1 D0 R0 I0 W5 E0 T0 Y1 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0

This was run on ExpertFlyer at around 5AM on 19th
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Old Dec 19, 2018, 12:30 am
  #2862  
 
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Good morning, would someone mind checking BA123 LHR-DOH on 10/1/19. Cheers B
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Old Dec 19, 2018, 1:20 am
  #2863  
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
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Originally Posted by baileysserpant
Good morning, would someone mind checking BA123 LHR-DOH on 10/1/19. Cheers B
BA 123
LHR 10/01/19 19:45
DOH 11/01/19 5:20
789
Daily
80% / 18m
F3 A2 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9
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Old Dec 19, 2018, 2:22 am
  #2864  
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
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Originally Posted by snaxmuppet
BA 123
LHR 10/01/19 19:45
DOH 11/01/19 5:20
789
Daily
80% / 18m
F3 A2 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9

cheers, as I thought it looks like a lite load! B
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Old Dec 19, 2018, 5:16 am
  #2865  
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 1,008
Originally Posted by jeffnoone
BA 59 0 LHR
20/12/18 21:30 CPT
21/12/18 11:05 744
Daily
76% / 14m F0 A0 J5 C1 D0 R0 I0 W5 E0 T0 Y1 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0

This was run on ExpertFlyer at around 5AM on 19th
Many thanks jeffnoone - sadly no chance of an op-up to first then :-(
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