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Old Jul 9, 2017, 11:09 am
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This is community help desk which allows members to assist each other in finding out how many seats are available on any given flight.

If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.

Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.


As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.

Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed and probably unauthorised (so buyer beware)


What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...

This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.

There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.

2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.


What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.

The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.


Differences for non-BA airlines
  • Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
  • Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
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Old Sep 1, 2017, 6:48 am
  #271  
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
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Originally Posted by wheatbeer
Would anyone be able to kindly check BA452 LHR-IBZ for tomorrow (02/09/2017) please? Greatly appreciated. Thanks.
UK Position

BA 452
LHR 02/09/17 11:15
IBZ 02/09/17 14:45
321
J5 C0 D0 R0 I0 Y5 B1 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 N0 Q0 O0 S0 G0
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Old Sep 1, 2017, 6:54 am
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Originally Posted by peterinlewesuk
UK Position

BA 452
LHR 02/09/17 11:15
IBZ 02/09/17 14:45
321
J5 C0 D0 R0 I0 Y5 B1 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 N0 Q0 O0 S0 G0
Perfect, thanks for the quick reply peter.
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Old Sep 1, 2017, 10:54 am
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Originally Posted by peterinlewesuk
UK Position

BA 251
LHR 02/09/17 21:55
SCL 03/09/17 8:30
789
F5 A5 J1 C0 D0 R0 I0 W9 E0 T0 Y9 B9 H6 K3 M3 L2 V1 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G9
Thank you!
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Old Sep 1, 2017, 11:49 am
  #274  
 
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Please would someone check?

BA59 LHR to CPT 17/01/18
BA58 CPT to LHR 22/01/18

Thanks in advance
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Old Sep 1, 2017, 12:24 pm
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Originally Posted by firstlight
Please would someone check?

BA59 LHR to CPT 17/01/18
BA58 CPT to LHR 22/01/18

Thanks in advance
BA59:

F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W7 E4 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G0

BA58:

F9 A7 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G0

UK point of sale
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Old Sep 1, 2017, 12:37 pm
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Originally Posted by MPH1980
BA59:

F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W7 E4 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G0

BA58:

F9 A7 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G0

UK point of sale
Thanks!
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Old Sep 2, 2017, 9:54 pm
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Please could someone possibly check loads on the following flight, please:

cx846//HKG-JFK//3 SEP

Thanks

Last edited by staticx813; Sep 2, 2017 at 10:19 pm
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Old Sep 3, 2017, 12:03 am
  #278  
 
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Would Appreciate a lookup for the following flight.

Sep 7th BA278 SJC-LHR

I'm booked on WT+ and want to estimate upgrade chances for AA platinum.

Last edited by pdilip; Sep 3, 2017 at 12:08 am Reason: Typo
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Old Sep 3, 2017, 12:52 am
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Originally Posted by pdilip
would appreciate a lookup for the following flight.

Sep 7th ba278 sjc-lhr

i'm booked on wt+ and want to estimate upgrade chances for aa platinum.
uk pos
f2 a1 j9 c3 d0 r0 i0 w6 e0 t0 y9 b9 h9 k9 m9 l9 v9 s9 n0 q0 o0 g5

us pos
f2 a1 j9 c6 d6 r5 ic w8 e5 t3 y9 b9 h9 k9 m9 l9 v6 s6 n6 q9 oc g5
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Old Sep 3, 2017, 7:32 am
  #280  
 
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Would someone kindly check loads on the following flight please?

Sept 13 BA 273 LHR/SAN

Thanks very much
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Old Sep 3, 2017, 7:33 am
  #281  
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Originally Posted by flusters
Would someone kindly check loads on the following flight please?

Sept 13 BA 273 LHR/SAN

Thanks very much
Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.com
Code:
Flight Availability Search
Departing LHR on 09/13/17 12:00 AM for SAN
Flying BA  
Direct/Non-Stop Only
Point of Sale: UK


                                                                     Frequency
Flight        Stops  Depart             Arrive             Aircraft  Reliability     Available Classes
0 Connections
BA 273        0      LHR                SAN                777       Daily           F8 A7 J9 C9 D8 R7 I0 W4 E0 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N0 Q0 O0 G9 
                     09/13/17 3:20 PM   09/13/17 6:45 PM             82% / 14m
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Old Sep 3, 2017, 7:34 am
  #282  
 
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Originally Posted by flusters
Would someone kindly check loads on the following flight please?

Sept 13 BA 273 LHR/SAN

Thanks very much
UK position

BA 273
LHR 13/09/17 15:20
SAN 13/09/17 18:45
777
F8 A7 J9 C9 D8 R7 I0 W4 E0 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N0 Q0 O0 G9
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Old Sep 3, 2017, 7:37 am
  #283  
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
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Originally Posted by florens
Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.com
Code:
Flight Availability Search
Departing LHR on 09/13/17 12:00 AM for SAN
Flying BA  
Direct/Non-Stop Only
Point of Sale: UK


                                                                     Frequency
Flight        Stops  Depart             Arrive             Aircraft  Reliability     Available Classes
0 Connections
BA 273        0      LHR                SAN                777       Daily           F8 A7 J9 C9 D8 R7 I0 W4 E0 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N0 Q0 O0 G9 
                     09/13/17 3:20 PM   09/13/17 6:45 PM             82% / 14m
Thank you very much
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Old Sep 3, 2017, 7:38 am
  #284  
 
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Originally Posted by peterinlewesuk
UK position

BA 273
LHR 13/09/17 15:20
SAN 13/09/17 18:45
777
F8 A7 J9 C9 D8 R7 I0 W4 E0 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N0 Q0 O0 G9
Thank you very much
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Old Sep 4, 2017, 1:17 am
  #285  
 
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Would someone mind checking the flight loads for the following please:

BA185 LHR>EWR departs on 09 Sep 17
BA184 EWR>LHR departs on 14 Sep 17

Thanks in advance !
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