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Help to check BA seat availability and BA flight loads

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This is community help desk which allows members to assist each other in finding out how many seats are available on any given flight.

If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.

Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.


As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.

Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed and probably unauthorised (so buyer beware)


What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...

This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.

There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.

2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.


What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.

The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.


Differences for non-BA airlines
  • Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
  • Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
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Old Oct 4, 18, 4:31 am
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Originally Posted by muggle View Post
Please would someone be able to have a look at BA225 6th Oct LHR-MSY?

Also if possible to translate the chances of an op up from WTP? It’s gone from 787-800 to 900 so that’s clearly shifting things around a bit in terms of space.
Thank you in advance!
1 LHR MSY 1540 1935 BA 225
J9 C2 D2 RC IC W9 EC TC Y6 B3 H0 K0 M0 LC VC SC NC QC OC G0

If Y is looking busiest, then with the highest number of seats, I would said that there is a chance of people in economy being moved forward, and possibly then from WTP to Club.

But translating chances? I'd guess you've gone from 1 in 10,000 to 1 in 9,500? Purely a guess though.
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Old Oct 4, 18, 4:32 am
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Originally Posted by muggle View Post
Please would someone be able to have a look at BA225 6th Oct LHR-MSY?

Also if possible to translate the chances of an op up from WTP? Itís gone from 787-800 to 900 so thatís clearly shifting things around a bit in terms of space.
Thank you in advance!
J9 C2 D2 R0 I0 W9 E0 T0 Y6 B3 H0 K0M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0

I'm sure someone more knowledgeable will advise on the op up.
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Old Oct 4, 18, 5:34 am
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Could someone please check out BA0063 13/10/18 LHR-SEZ

Thanks
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Old Oct 4, 18, 6:21 am
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Originally Posted by PointsPointsPoints View Post
Could someone please check out BA0063 13/10/18 LHR-SEZ

Thanks
F0A0J4C0D0R0I0W8E5T0Y9B9H9K9M9L9V9S9N9Q9O0G9
Busy up the front.
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Old Oct 4, 18, 7:10 am
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Originally Posted by zanskar View Post
Could someone kind please check loads on tonightís BA032 flight from HKG? My wife canít check in to her WT+ seat so wondered if the flight was oversold?
thanks a lot
Theres seats free in all cabins - so not an overbooking problem
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Old Oct 4, 18, 7:17 am
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Originally Posted by mikeyfly View Post
Many thanks for checking ! This one is strange, when I checked the seat map on BA.com (I know I know not a real indicator) it shows no vacant seats at all so interesting they'd be willing to sell nine more in Club

Heck what do I know !?
Currently there 4 Ďblockedí seats in CW and that flight is currently showing as being operated by a 4 class B777 aircraft, so they have 14F seats available to them if required.

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Old Oct 4, 18, 7:38 am
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Can someone advise current loads for:

BA293 LHR>IAD Tue 09 Oct 18

BA292 IAD>LHR Thu 11 Oct 18

TIA!

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Old Oct 4, 18, 7:48 am
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Hello,

Can anyone advice on the loads of BA10 from BKK-LHR on the 8th October,

Many thanks!
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Old Oct 4, 18, 10:17 am
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Originally Posted by starbucks88 View Post
J9 C2 D2 R0 I0 W9 E0 T0 Y6 B3 H0 K0M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0

I'm sure someone more knowledgeable will advise on the op up.
thank you!
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Old Oct 4, 18, 10:18 am
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Originally Posted by Sam Bee View Post
1 LHR MSY 1540 1935 BA 225
J9 C2 D2 RC IC W9 EC TC Y6 B3 H0 K0 M0 LC VC SC NC QC OC G0

If Y is looking busiest, then with the highest number of seats, I would said that there is a chance of people in economy being moved forward, and possibly then from WTP to Club.

But translating chances? I'd guess you've gone from 1 in 10,000 to 1 in 9,500? Purely a guess though.
Thank you! Hopefully as 1 gold and 1 silver weíll be in the running.
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Old Oct 4, 18, 11:04 am
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Originally Posted by Sam Bee View Post
1 LHR MSY 1540 1935 BA 225
J9 C2 D2 RC IC W9 EC TC Y6 B3 H0 K0 M0 LC VC SC NC QC OC G0

If Y is looking busiest, then with the highest number of seats, I would said that there is a chance of people in economy being moved forward, and possibly then from WTP to Club.

But translating chances? I'd guess you've gone from 1 in 10,000 to 1 in 9,500? Purely a guess though.
With those numbers I'd say that the airline is expecting a very busy flight and know that there's an extra 8 seats in the F cabin that can be used for additional CW passengers if necessary. I think that's why it's showing W9 and J9. I think there's a very good chance of roll forwards from Y-WTP-CW and ultimately into the F cabin (operated as CW). Whether or not that will affect the OP is an unknown. Would be interesting to hear back as to what transpires.
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Old Oct 4, 18, 2:14 pm
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Originally Posted by golfmad View Post
With those numbers I'd say that the airline is expecting a very busy flight and know that there's an extra 8 seats in the F cabin that can be used for additional CW passengers if necessary. I think that's why it's showing W9 and J9. I think there's a very good chance of roll forwards from Y-WTP-CW and ultimately into the F cabin (operated as CW). Whether or not that will affect the OP is an unknown. Would be interesting to hear back as to what transpires.
Will of course post with news. I need to do online check in at T-24 as need to adjust seating for bassinet bulkhead when released rather than waiting to see if app changes seats forward in advance, but debating if gamble on a possible OPUP is worth taking when there is the possibility of POUG to CW offered at online check in given the loads. Itís a gold/silver travelling in avios/241.

Hard to judge whether POUG worth taking if offered (obviously would be price depandant too)

If F opens up (with CW service) due to my staus would that grant us access if we POUG/AUP/OPUP?

thanks!
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Old Oct 5, 18, 3:06 am
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Unable to even book a seat if i wanted to !

Originally Posted by Sam Bee View Post


This is what I see - some change as well
So just gone to have another look and there isnt a single seat i can reserve !!
Assuming they will release Bassinettes at t-24


This is BA275 tomorrow pm..
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Old Oct 5, 18, 3:44 am
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Originally Posted by muggle View Post


Will of course post with news. I need to do online check in at T-24 as need to adjust seating for bassinet bulkhead when released rather than waiting to see if app changes seats forward in advance, but debating if gamble on a possible OPUP is worth taking when there is the possibility of POUG to CW offered at online check in given the loads. Itís a gold/silver travelling in avios/241.

Hard to judge whether POUG worth taking if offered (obviously would be price depandant too)

If F opens up (with CW service) due to my staus would that grant us access if we POUG/AUP/OPUP?

thanks!
Does anyone have any insight into the above by chance?
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Old Oct 5, 18, 9:21 am
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To follow up on this - at OLCI my seat changed to 10A - moment of happiness as thought in J but then scrolling down its front row of W as the equipment change back to the original 787-800.

Theyíve now stopped selling W and J. Could anyone post an expert flyer J seat map for BA225 6th Oct LHR-MSY?
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