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Help to check BA seat availability and BA flight loads

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This is community help desk which allows members to assist each other in finding out how many seats are available on any given flight.

If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.

Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.


As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.

Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed and probably unauthorised (so buyer beware)


What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...

This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.

There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.

2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.


What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.

The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.


Differences for non-BA airlines
  • Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
  • Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
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Old Jul 18, 18, 6:02 am
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Originally Posted by babarage View Post
Could Someone check

ba0395 bru - lhr
BA 395
BRU 20/07/18 15:25
LHR 20/07/18 15:45
319
J9 C6 D3 R0 I0 Y9 B4 H1 K0 M0 L0 V0 N0 O0 Q0 S0 G3

ba0397 bru- lhr
BA 397
BRU 20/07/18 16:45
LHR 20/07/18 17:00
319
J9 C5 D1 R0 I0 Y9 B3 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 N0 O0 Q0 S0 G2
for July 20th?

Thanks.
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Old Jul 18, 18, 7:20 am
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Could someone please check load for the below?

Lima - Gatwick (London)

BA2238, 21:55 Wed 18 July 2018

Many thanks
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Old Jul 18, 18, 7:32 am
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Originally Posted by jameswithquestions View Post
could someone please check load for the below?

lima - gatwick (london)

ba2238, 21:55 wed 18 july 2018

many thanks
lim lgw 2155#1615 ba2238
j9 c9 d8 r6 ic w5 e5 t3 y1 b0 h0 k0 m0 lc vc sc nc qc oc g0
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Old Jul 18, 18, 12:37 pm
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Help with current Flight Load

Flying BA0093 LHR-YYZ on 26July. Been advised that First no longer available on this flight so am worried could get bumped from J. Can anyone advise how many J seats remain unsold at this point? Thanks
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Old Jul 18, 18, 12:52 pm
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Originally Posted by Definitas View Post
Flying BA0093 LHR-YYZ on 26July. Been advised that First no longer available on this flight so am worried could get bumped from J. Can anyone advise how many J seats remain unsold at this point? Thanks
ExpertFlyer is still showing this as being a 789 with F. The flight is reasonably busy toward the forward cabins. The BA 99 is showing as a 788 with no F.


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Old Jul 18, 18, 1:09 pm
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Would someone be able to check the loads for the following JAL flight?
New York JFK - > Tokyo Haneda HND
JL 5, 13H25, Thurs 19 July 2018

It seems there's an aircraft change and, per the call I received "business is very tight", so they offered a move to another flight.
I've declined the change but as online check-in and seat selection is suspended, I'm curious to see how bad things might be and whether I'm likely to be bumped anyway.

Thanks for your help with this Oneworld request
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Old Jul 18, 18, 2:32 pm
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Originally Posted by golfmad View Post
ExpertFlyer is still showing this as being a 789 with F. The flight is reasonably busy toward the forward cabins. The BA 99 is showing as a 788 with no F.


Thanks. I'm afraid I don’t understand the codes (but would welcome a pointer to a key). Is it possible to say how many seats still remain in CW. Thanks
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Old Jul 18, 18, 3:42 pm
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Originally Posted by Definitas View Post

Thanks. I'm afraid I don’t understand the codes (but would welcome a pointer to a key). Is it possible to say how many seats still remain in CW. Thanks
Can we start again please. Do you have a ticket in CW or F?

BA.com are still selling tickets in First class on the BA93 on 7/26. Are you sure they are telling you that that flight no longer has a First class cabin? If it's not operating with an F cabin I'd be very surprised that BA are still selling F tickets and showing it having F on their website.

The codes mean that at the moment BA is still prepared to sell up to 2 more tickets in CW (J class) or up to 2 more tickets in F (2 in F class or 1 in A class). The CW seating is reasonably open at the moment with 23 unallocated but that doesn't mean much because people without status may have opted not to pay for a seat.

With the information available at the moment on BA.com and ExpertFlyer I wouldn't be concerned about being downgraded at all.
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Old Jul 18, 18, 6:13 pm
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Originally Posted by geronimo View Post
Would someone be able to check the loads for the following JAL flight?
New York JFK - > Tokyo Haneda HND
JL 5, 13H25, Thurs 19 July 2018

It seems there's an aircraft change and, per the call I received "business is very tight", so they offered a move to another flight.
I've declined the change but as online check-in and seat selection is suspended, I'm curious to see how bad things might be and whether I'm likely to be bumped anyway.

Thanks for your help with this Oneworld request
JL 5
JFK - 07/19/18 1:25 PM
HND - 07/20/18 4:25 PM
772
Daily
89% / 82mJ
J0
C0 D0 I0 X0 W0 E0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9

EF shows every seat in J is occupied bar 4G which is blocked.
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Old Jul 19, 18, 3:05 am
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Flight Loading

Originally Posted by golfmad View Post
Can we start again please. Do you have a ticket in CW or F?

BA.com are still selling tickets in First class on the BA93 on 7/26. Are you sure they are telling you that that flight no longer has a First class cabin? If it's not operating with an F cabin I'd be very surprised that BA are still selling F tickets and showing it having F on their website.

The codes mean that at the moment BA is still prepared to sell up to 2 more tickets in CW (J class) or up to 2 more tickets in F (2 in F class or 1 in A class). The CW seating is reasonably open at the moment with 23 unallocated but that doesn't mean much because people without status may have opted not to pay for a seat.

With the information available at the moment on BA.com and ExpertFlyer I wouldn't be concerned about being downgraded at all.
Hi. Sorry for the confusion. Originally I had a „space available upgrade“ voucher applied to my CW booking which could have put me in F. I was then advised that the aircraft type had changed and F would not be available. I therefore asked for the voucher to be applied to a future flight and so we are definitely in CW. I just thought that, if there was no F, it might put pressure on CW. Seems now that there is F so hopefully no problems. Thanks for the help.
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Old Jul 20, 18, 5:33 am
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BA 55/57 22/23 July please

Originally Posted by Stewie Mac View Post
Could someone have a look at the LHR-JNB flights (BA 55/57) on 22 July please? Can't see any availability in Y at all, which is strange this far out - not sure if it's 'start of the holidays' or just something up with ba.com ...

Thanks
peterinlewesuk kindly checked this for me three weeks ago - think things have got tighter. Can someone recheck the above, and also the same flights for 23 July please? Much appreciated.
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Old Jul 20, 18, 7:43 am
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Hi, could some check flight loads for BA166 TLV-LHR on 27th July for me? Thanks.
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Old Jul 20, 18, 7:46 am
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Originally Posted by grahamclarke View Post
hi, could some check flight loads for ba166 tlv-lhr on 27th july for me? Thanks.
f5 a5 j3 c1 d0 r0 i0 w9 e9 t9 y9 b7 h7 k7 m7 l3 v1 s0 n0 q0 o0 g0
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Old Jul 20, 18, 7:46 am
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Originally Posted by GrahamClarke View Post
Hi, could some check flight loads for BA166 TLV-LHR on 27th July for me? Thanks.
Here you go. UK POS

BA 166
TLV - 07/27/18 7:35 AM
LHR - 07/27/18 11:00 AM
777
F
95% / 13m
F7 A6 J6 C0 D0 R0 I0 W9 E5 T0 Y9 B8
H5 K5 M5 L3 V1 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
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Old Jul 20, 18, 7:54 am
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Originally Posted by Stewie Mac View Post
peterinlewesuk kindly checked this for me three weeks ago - think things have got tighter. Can someone recheck the above, and also the same flights for 23 July please? Much appreciated.
Here you go Stewie, 22nd and 23rd July UK POS.

55 and 57, both all zeroed out on at present on both dates.

F0 A0 J0 C0 D0 R0 I0 W0 E0 T0 Y0 B0
H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
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