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This is community help desk which allows members to assist each other in finding out how many seats are available on any given flight.

If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.

Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.


As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.

Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed and probably unauthorised (so buyer beware)


What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...

This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.

There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.

2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.


What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.

The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.


Differences for non-BA airlines
  • Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
  • Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
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Old May 21, 18, 8:03 am
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Originally Posted by Sam Bee View Post
fri 25may18 london area /singapore
1 lhr sin 25/1955#1605 ba 11
f9 a8 j9 c7 d2 rc ic w2 ec tc y4 b2 h0 k0 m0 lc vc sc nc qc oc g0
Thank you Sam
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Old May 21, 18, 11:10 am
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Can someone please check...

PHL to LHR June 24
Thanks!
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Old May 21, 18, 11:18 am
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Originally Posted by IzzyL View Post
Can someone please check...

PHL to LHR June 24
Thanks!

Departing Flights

SearchDeparting PHL on 24/06/18 0:00 for LHR
Flying BA



Departing 24/06/18 - Sunday
FlightStopsDepartArriveAircraftFrequency
ReliabilityAvailable Classes
(Click on the class code for details)

0 Connections

BA 660PHL
24/06/18 18:45LHR
25/06/18 6:50744
Su,M,T,W,Th,F
85% / 17mF9 A9 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W7 E2 T0 Y9 B9
H9 K9 M7 L4 V1 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0


0 Connections

BA (AA) 15330PHL
24/06/18 19:20LHR
25/06/18 7:45333
Daily
74% / 51mJ7 C7 D7 R2 I0 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 V7
N7 S7 O7 Q7


0 Connections

BA (AA) 15870PHL
24/06/18 20:40LHR
25/06/18 9:00333
Daily
58% / 51mJ7 C7 D7 R0 I0 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 V7
N7 S7 O0 Q7


0 Connections

BA 680PHL
24/06/18 22:00LHR
25/06/18 10:15789
Su,M,F
63% / 29mF7 A6 J9 C9 D9 R9 I5 W9 E9 T7 Y9 B9
H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N0 Q0 O0 G0


1 Connections

BA (AA) 18600PHL
24/06/18 12:50ORD
24/06/18 14:11321
Daily
75% / 28mJ7 C7 D7 R7 I4 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 V7
N0 S7 O0 Q0


BA 2940ORD
24/06/18 17:05LHR
25/06/18 6:50744
Daily
84% / 25mF7 A6 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E0 T0 Y9 B9
H9 K9 M9 L9 V1 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0


1 Connections

BA (AA) 18600PHL
24/06/18 12:50ORD
24/06/18 14:11321
Daily
75% / 28mJ7 C7 D0 R0 I0 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L0 V0
N0 S0 O0 Q0


BA (AA) 15430ORD
24/06/18 17:10LHR
25/06/18 6:50787
Daily
68% / 115mJ7 C7 D7 R0 I0 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L0 V0
N0 S0 O0 Q0


1 Connections

BA (AA) 46930PHL
24/06/18 14:15MIA
24/06/18 17:12757
Daily
63% / 41mJ7 C7 D7 R7 I7 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 V7
N5 S7 O0 Q0


BA (AA) 15270MIA
24/06/18 18:00LHR
25/06/18 7:4077W
Daily
76% / 43mF3 A2 J7 C7 D7 R7 I7 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7
L7 V7 N5 S7 O0 Q0


1 Connections

BA (AA) 15730PHL
24/06/18 16:35MUC
25/06/18 6:45332
Daily
86% / 33mJ7 C7 D7 R4 I0 W7 E7 T5 Y7 B7 H7 K7
M7 L7 V7 N7 S7 O7 Q7


BA 9470MUC
25/06/18 7:20LHR
25/06/18 8:30319
Daily
87% / 7mJ9 C7 D3 R9 I0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M4 L0 V0
N0 O0 Q0 S1 G0
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Old May 21, 18, 11:35 am
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Thanks so much Highlandboy!
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Old May 21, 18, 2:03 pm
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Thanks very much Strattonflyer!

Cheers!
Rob
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Old May 22, 18, 7:55 pm
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Originally Posted by stephem View Post
I have access to EF so I know the current state of fare buckets for this flight, and can also see from searches on BA.com that there is no award space currently, but hoping someone can help me an understanding of whether BA might open award space in either main cabin or front cabin as the flight approaches.

The flight is FSC-LHR on Sunday June 3. currently shows J9 C5 D2 R0 I0 Y9 B9 H9 K4 M0 L0 V0

We will be in Corsica for a few days and I already have an award ticket for my wife on June 4 LHR-SEA in F that I could add this FSC-LHR flight to instead of having to either buy it or fly on Easyjet into LGW. Adding that first EU segment would also reduce APD on the award ticket by about $170. The award is with AAdvantage miles and I am EXP status so I could add this on at the last minute but trying to make sure I have an insurance plan for backup to get to London at some point on Sunday.

Right now EasyJet is about $170, BA is about $350. The way I look at it is I buy the EasyJet ticket as insurance and then if BA opens space I get a $170 reduction in APD and just toss the EasyJet ticket.

Curious what people think the odds are that BA will open anything more in either cabin on this route?
Just to come report back, BA wound up opening a shed load of business class (CE) seats on this route. Unfortunately they did so a day or two after I had bought the tickets... But I think at least I can get some APD knocked off my wife's ex LHR award by adding this on...
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Old May 23, 18, 2:37 am
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Check please

Hi folks, would someone mind checking the following please;

BA0065 LHR - NBO 09/07
BA0064 NBO - LHR 20/07

I'm travelling on a full Y fare, what are the chances of moving forward based? I'm under the magic 10hrs for my firm so it's economy all the way for me!
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Old May 23, 18, 3:45 am
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Originally Posted by dombo17uk View Post
Hi folks, would someone mind checking the following please;

BA0065 LHR - NBO 09/07
BA0064 NBO - LHR 20/07

I'm travelling on a full Y fare, what are the chances of moving forward based? I'm under the magic 10hrs for my firm so it's economy all the way for me!
MON 09JUL18 LONDON AREA /NAIROBI
LHR NBO 09/1025 2100 BA 65
F5 A4 J9 C9 D9 R9 I1 W2 EC TCC Y0 B0 HC KC M0 LC VC SC NC QC OC G0

FRI 20JUL18 NAIROBI /LONDON AREA
NBO LHR 20/2335#0620 BA 64
F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W0 EC TC Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 SC NC QC OC G0

I would say reasonable on the outbound, and currently unlikely on the return
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Old May 23, 18, 8:47 am
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BA188 EWR-LHR tomorrow Thur 24th May plz?

Given the way the upgrades have changed in the app I'm assuming it's very busy...
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Old May 23, 18, 9:19 am
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Originally Posted by mmxbreaks View Post
BA188 EWR-LHR tomorrow Thur 24th May plz?

Given the way the upgrades have changed in the app I'm assuming it's very busy...
Here you go, zero across the board out at present!

BA 188
EWR05/24/18 9:35 PM
LHR05/25/18 9:30 AM
789
Daily
63% / 34m

F0 A0 J0 C0 D0 R0 I0 W0 E0 T0 Y0 B0
H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
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Old May 23, 18, 9:51 am
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Originally Posted by PETER01 View Post
Here you go, zero across the board out at present!

BA 188
EWR05/24/18 9:35 PM
LHR05/25/18 9:30 AM
789
Daily
63% / 34m

F0 A0 J0 C0 D0 R0 I0 W0 E0 T0 Y0 B0
H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
Ouch, oh yeh... looking on BA.com and it is only willing to sell a full-fare F ticket onto that flight.
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Old May 23, 18, 10:05 am
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BCN-LHR next Friday, June 1 please: BA475, BA481 and BA8166 specifically.

It's Friday afternoon at the end of half term, so not expecting much space...

Thanks
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Old May 23, 18, 10:36 am
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Originally Posted by Stewie Mac View Post
BCN-LHR next Friday, June 1 please:

BA475: J9 C4 D0 R0 I0 Y9 B8 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 N0 Q0 O0 S0 G0
BA481: J9 C2 D0 R0 I0 Y9 B9 H1 K0 M0 L0 V0 N0 Q0 O0 S0 G0
BA8166: Y9 B9 H9 K0 M0 L0 V0 N0 Q0 O0
specifically.

It's Friday afternoon at the end of half term, so not expecting much space...

Thanks
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Old May 23, 18, 11:00 am
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A question about LHR-JNB for anyone who flies that in CW.

I have been using BA for US-LHR-Africa lately because they have been publishing I fares that allow a stopover on the outbound in London, which allows me to work a week in Europe, have a nice weekend break, and then a week in Africa and then the journey home. For Kenya, I noticed that LHR-NBO and NBO-LHR both had I class availability right up until the flight dates, so I was able to do some changes if necessary for another $500.

For this trip to JNB I have been watching for a few weeks and notice that they just zero out I class about 10-14 days before the LHR-JNB flights. So it goes to J9 C9 D9 R9 I0 and that is indeed what the flight on June 5 (BA57) that I want to switch to is reading now, even though it showed I9 just the other day. I also notice that they even seem to programmatically move R space to zero at some point within 7-10 days of the flight. I unfortunately miscalculated how long it will take to get from Cambridge to LHR and so am cutting it way too close on June 5 for BA55 (which I am booked on) and merely want to get onto BA57 a few hours later so that I wont be at the mercy of afternoon traffic.

On June 5, BA57 is showing all 9s except for in I, which is zero. I can always upfare to R class, that is not too bad in terms of price, but also worried that I have to do that soon of risk only D and above being available. I am wondering if anyone has experience with JNB and whether they ever wind up re-releasing any I bucket space like the NBO flights do?
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Old May 23, 18, 11:03 am
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Could someone please check:

LHR-SFO BA287 on the 30th of May

Many thanks
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