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Help to check BA seat availability and BA flight loads

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This is community help desk which allows members to assist each other in finding out how many seats are available on any given flight.

If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.

Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.


As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.

Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed and probably unauthorised (so buyer beware)


What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...

This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.

There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.

2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.


What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.

The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.


Differences for non-BA airlines
  • Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
  • Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
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Old May 10, 18, 5:12 am
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Can someone check the following for me please?

12 June 2018, LHR-FCO BA 546

I'd like to take that flight and wondering what are the chances of (late) availability of redemption seats?
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Old May 10, 18, 5:21 am
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Originally Posted by kosy91 View Post
Can someone check the following for me please?

12 June 2018, LHR-FCO BA 546

I'd like to take that flight and wondering what are the chances of (late) availability of redemption seats?
J9 C6 D3 R5 I0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M7 L0 V0
N0 O0 Q0 S0 G0
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Old May 10, 18, 7:00 am
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Thanks a lot!

Does this give any indication of reward seats will open up? I can see availability up front so maybe in CE than in ET?
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Old May 10, 18, 7:01 am
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Originally Posted by uklinus View Post
Thanks a lot!

Does this give any indication of reward seats will open up? I can see availability up front so maybe in CE than in ET?
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Old May 10, 18, 7:20 am
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Originally Posted by kosy91 View Post
Thanks a lot!

Does this give any indication of reward seats will open up? I can see availability up front so maybe in CE than in ET?
Nope, those are different fare buckets. Looking at reward availability there isn't anything on that flight, but there are on others that day:
Results from ExpertFlyer.com

Awards & Upgrades Search
Departing LHR on 12/06/18 0:00 for FCO
Flying BA on booking class U X V
Exclude Codeshares


Frequency
Flight Stops Depart Arrive Aircraft Reliability Class Description Code Seats
0 Connections
BA 552 0 LHR FCO 767 Daily Business - Award & Upgrade U Y
12/06/18 7:00 12/06/18 10:30 97% / 5m Economy - Award X Y
Economy - Gold Elite Award V 9


0 Connections
BA 548 0 LHR FCO 319 Daily Business - Award & Upgrade U N
12/06/18 8:30 12/06/18 12:00 78% / 12m Economy - Award X N
Economy - Gold Elite Award V 0


0 Connections
BA 546 0 LHR FCO 320 Daily Business - Award & Upgrade U N
12/06/18 10:40 12/06/18 14:10 59% / 19m Economy - Award X N
Economy - Gold Elite Award V 0


0 Connections
BA 560 0 LHR FCO 767 Daily Business - Award & Upgrade U N
12/06/18 12:35 12/06/18 16:05 48% / 26m Economy - Award X N
Economy - Gold Elite Award V 0


0 Connections
BA 556 0 LHR FCO 321 Daily Business - Award & Upgrade U N
12/06/18 13:45 12/06/18 17:15 58% / 28m Economy - Award X N
Economy - Gold Elite Award V 0


0 Connections
BA 558 0 LHR FCO 321 Daily Business - Award & Upgrade U N
12/06/18 18:35 12/06/18 22:10 69% / 29m Economy - Award X N
Economy - Gold Elite Award V 1
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Old May 10, 18, 7:23 am
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Originally Posted by uklinus View Post
Originally Posted by Lucanesque View Post
Nope, those are different fare buckets. Looking at reward availability there isn't anything on that flight, but there are on others that day:
Results from ExpertFlyer.com
Thanks for checking. I'm looking for that particular flight as my family arrives at FCO at around 14:00pm.

I've booked a cheap ryanair to Ciampino as insurance
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Old May 10, 18, 7:28 am
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Originally Posted by kosy91 View Post
Thanks for checking. I'm looking for that particular flight as my family arrives at FCO at around 14:00pm.

I've booked a cheap ryanair to Ciampino as insurance
In which case, might be an idea to set up alerts on BA Redemption Finder
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Old May 10, 18, 10:03 am
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BA286 14/5/18 SFO-LHR - Could I get a load check from one of you kind people please.

Thanks in anticipation.
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Old May 10, 18, 10:42 am
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Originally Posted by BABoy84 View Post
BA286 14/5/18 SFO-LHR - Could I get a load check from one of you kind people please.

Thanks in anticipation.
BA 286
SFO 05/14/18 7:35 PM
LHR 05/15/18 2:00 PM
388
F2 A1 J9 C4 D4 R0 I0 W8 E0 T0 Y9 B9
H9 K9 M6 L3 V3 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G9

UK POS

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Old May 10, 18, 12:33 pm
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Originally Posted by Lucanesque View Post
In which case, might be an idea to set up alerts on BA Redemption Finder
Yep done that already
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Old May 10, 18, 1:21 pm
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BA873 KRK-LHR May 18th

ba.com Flights status shows this flight as scheduled but the website is not offering any availability
Is it full already?
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Old May 10, 18, 1:26 pm
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Originally Posted by scottishpoet View Post
BA873 KRK-LHR May 18th

ba.com Flights status shows this flight as scheduled but the website is not offering any availability
Is it full already?
No seats for sale at the moment apparently, UK POS

BA 873

KRK - 05/18/18 6:20 PM
LHR - 05/18/18 7:50 PM
319
Daily
88% / 13m

J0 C0 D0 R0 I0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0
N0 Q0 O0 S0 G0
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Old May 10, 18, 1:36 pm
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Thanks

How about same date, may 18th, STR-LHR, either the BA919 or the BA921
Again no availability on BA but flight status says on time
Are these both zeroed out too

I am beginning to wonder if there is something going on that day, but I am finding availability from WAW
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Old May 10, 18, 1:53 pm
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Originally Posted by scottishpoet View Post
Thanks

How about same date, may 18th, STR-LHR, either the BA919 or the BA921
Again no availability on BA but flight status says on time
Are these both zeroed out too

I am beginning to wonder if there is something going on that day, but I am finding availability from WAW
Yes both zeroed out scottishpoet, maybe as it's a Friday though or/and something going on, I really don't know.

BA 919 (and 921 is the same re loads)
STR -05/18/18 11:20 AM
LHR - 05/18/18 12:10 PM
319
Daily
74% / 19m

J0 C0 D0 R0 I0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0
N0 O0 Q0 S0 G0
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Old May 10, 18, 2:32 pm
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Thanks

I never had a problem getting a seat on 873 more than a week in advance before

Its been like this for a few days,
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