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Help to check BA seat availability and BA flight loads

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This is community help desk which allows members to assist each other in finding out how many seats are available on any given flight.

If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.

Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.


As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.

Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed and probably unauthorised (so buyer beware)


What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...

This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.

There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.

2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.


What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.

The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.


Differences for non-BA airlines
  • Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
  • Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
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Old May 6, 18, 12:45 pm
  #1726  
 
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Originally Posted by mmxbreaks View Post
Can someone check BA155 LHR-CAI on Tuesday 8th May?

Mainly asking as Flub Class has opened due to 789 change, so I've gambled on taking one of the eight seats in the hope that I'm not kicked back to a middle
BA 155
LHR 05/08/18 5:15 PM
CAI 05/08/18 11:00 PM
789
Daily
J5 C0 D0 R0 I0 W9 E9 T7 Y8 B5 H5 K5M5 L4 V4 S4 N3 Q0 O0 G0

Its so close to departure all advanced purchase fare buckets are closed, but Id guess you are fine with the above load in your current seat.

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Old May 6, 18, 1:00 pm
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Originally Posted by stephem View Post
I have access to EF so I know the current state of fare buckets for this flight, and can also see from searches on BA.com that there is no award space currently, but hoping someone can help me an understanding of whether BA might open award space in either main cabin or front cabin as the flight approaches.

The flight is FSC-LHR on Sunday June 3. currently shows J9 C5 D2 R0 I0 Y9 B9 H9 K4 M0 L0 V0

We will be in Corsica for a few days and I already have an award ticket for my wife on June 4 LHR-SEA in F that I could add this FSC-LHR flight to instead of having to either buy it or fly on Easyjet into LGW. Adding that first EU segment would also reduce APD on the award ticket by about $170. The award is with AAdvantage miles and I am EXP status so I could add this on at the last minute but trying to make sure I have an insurance plan for backup to get to London at some point on Sunday.

Right now EasyJet is about $170, BA is about $350. The way I look at it is I buy the EasyJet ticket as insurance and then if BA opens space I get a $170 reduction in APD and just toss the EasyJet ticket.

Curious what people think the odds are that BA will open anything more in either cabin on this route?
Obviously nobody can speak with absolute authority on whether BA will open reward seats, but given those loads a month out from departure and the fact it appears to only be a once a week flight, Id be very surprised if they open any reward seats up. I dont have a crystal ball, but just my opinion.

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Old May 6, 18, 2:49 pm
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Originally Posted by Pilot37 View Post


BA 155
LHR 05/08/18 5:15 PM
CAI 05/08/18 11:00 PM
789
Daily
J5 C0 D0 R0 I0 W9 E9 T7 Y8 B5 H5 K5M5 L4 V4 S4 N3 Q0 O0 G0

Its so close to departure all advanced purchase fare buckets are closed, but I’d guess you are fine with the above load in your current seat.

Pilot37
One thing I do wonder: with J=5, does that include the eight First seats? Or would it be 5+8=13? I don't know how that works in this instance [my presumption would be there are four available seats, including those in First, with BA willing to oversell by one as WTP seems to have plenty of space?]

I think it's worth the risk sticking with First seating on this occasion though. It's only a 5hr flight, so a middle seat isn't going to kill me on a 2-3-2 arrangement plane. Plus I'm party of one, so no complications slotting me into window/aisle either, as applicable.

On the outbound LHR-CAI the seat map was showing about six empty seats, but the flight was completely full.

I think I've convinced myself enough.

Thanks
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Old May 6, 18, 4:09 pm
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can someone tell me the loads for BA252 on 10th may? thanks
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Old May 6, 18, 4:18 pm
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Looking at my JFK-LHR tomorrow.

F3 A2 J6 C0 D0 R0 I0 W3 E0 T0 Y6 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0

It looks quite busy. I wonder if Y6 may suggest that there are going to be some op-ups that will lead to me and my travel companion ending up sitting in F?
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Old May 6, 18, 6:23 pm
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Could someone please check BA185 (LHR-EWR) on May 9? Thank you.
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Old May 6, 18, 11:04 pm
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Originally Posted by pal62v View Post
could someone please check ba185 (lhr-ewr) on may 9? Thank you.
f4 a3 j9 c0 d0 r0 i0 w9 e5 t0 y9 b9 h9 k9 m9 l9 v9 s9 n9 q9 o9 g9 (uk pos)
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Old May 7, 18, 12:47 am
  #1733  
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Need a check for BA779 ARN-LHR on 10 May, thanks in advance.
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Old May 7, 18, 1:14 am
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Originally Posted by zsc View Post
Need a check for BA779 ARN-LHR on 10 May, thanks in advance.

BA 779 ARN 3:45p → LHR 5:25p
J9 C7 D4 R0 I0 Y9 B4 H2 K0 M0 L0 V0 N0 O0 Q0 S0 G0
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Old May 7, 18, 4:02 am
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Originally Posted by fin_dg View Post
f4 a3 j9 c0 d0 r0 i0 w9 e5 t0 y9 b9 h9 k9 m9 l9 v9 s9 n9 q9 o9 g9 (uk pos)
Heaps of space - great, thank you.
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Old May 7, 18, 11:11 am
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Could you please check the loads on these flights for tomorrow (8 May)? All Faro to London. BA2683 BA2695 BA0507 BA2697 BA2699. Thanks in advance.
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Old May 7, 18, 1:43 pm
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Originally Posted by chimambu View Post
Could you please check the loads on these flights for tomorrow (8 May)? All Faro to London.

BA2683: J1 C1 D1 R1 I1 Y9 B9 H9 K7 M6 L4 V0 N0 O0 Q0 S0 G0 FAO - LGW

BA2695: J0 C0 D0 R0 I0 Y4 B3 H3 K3 M3 L2 V0 N0 O0 Q0 S0 G0 FAO - LGW

BA2697: J0 C0 D0 R0 I0 Y4 B4 H3 K3 M0 L0 V0 N0 O0 Q0 S0 G0 FAO - LGW

I only see the following flight on EF for 09th
BA0507: J6 C4 D2 R0 I0 Y9 B9 H9 K7 M3 L0 V0 N0 O0 Q0 S0 G9 FAO - LHR

I only see the following flight on EF for 12th
BA2699: J9 C7 D3 R9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 N9 O6 Q6 S8 G6 FAO - LGW

Thanks in advance.
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Old May 7, 18, 1:50 pm
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Thanks
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Old May 9, 18, 5:27 am
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Would someone mind checking BA75 for next Monday for me please? That's LHR-LOS on May 14. Thanks
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Old May 9, 18, 5:36 am
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Originally Posted by Stewie Mac View Post
Would someone mind checking BA75 for next Monday for me please? That's LHR-LOS on May 14. Thanks
BA 75
LHR 05/14/18 11:25 AM
LOS 05/14/18 6:00 PM
744
F7 A6 J9 C9 D9 R9 I0 W9 E9 T7 Y9 B4
H4 K4 M3 L2 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0

Doesn't look too bad. UK POS

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