Tokyo to HKG - 12/31
Jun 19, 2017, 2:37 am
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It shouldn't be. A direct flight in business would be 20,000 plus a few quid. Having a look at availability on the 31st December there is only availability on a non direct flight through SHA on JAL, connecting to Cathay Dragon to HKG. This is two separate airlines so will price using the Multi airline avios chart which for flights like this is terrible value. Unfortunately the flights you are looking at, it is correct.
Jun 19, 2017, 2:48 am
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It looks like BAEC has this down as 1825 miles so it should be in band 3 for avios redemption and should cost 20,000 avios each way per person in J, or 40,000 in F.
Just did a dummy booking and CX NRT-HKG in J priced at 20,000 avios and £25.70 per person.
Not sure how you would get to 70,000 avios for 4?
Just did a dummy booking and CX NRT-HKG in J priced at 20,000 avios and £25.70 per person.
Not sure how you would get to 70,000 avios for 4?
Jun 19, 2017, 2:51 am
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It looks like BAEC has this down as 1825 miles so it should be in band 3 for avios redemption and should cost 20,000 avios each way per person in J, or 40,000 in F.
Just did a dummy booking and CX NRT-HKG in J priced at 20,000 avios and £25.70 per person.
Not sure how you would get to 70,000 avios for 4?
Just did a dummy booking and CX NRT-HKG in J priced at 20,000 avios and £25.70 per person.
Not sure how you would get to 70,000 avios for 4?
Jun 19, 2017, 2:54 am
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Perhaps no reward availability on the specific date you are looking at, but there certainly are direct flights and there certainly is reward availability on some dates.
Jun 19, 2017, 3:04 am
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probably not the right forum to ask but is there any other possible airline miles redemption that makes more sense here?
Jun 19, 2017, 3:11 am
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As KARFA points out, if you can find availability on the direct flights (JAL or CX) then it will be only 20k in J.
Alternatively, indirect routings but sticking to one carrier (e.g. CX TYO-TPE-HKG) will be the sum of the individual sectors, so again much cheaper than the multi-carrier price.
Jun 19, 2017, 3:17 am
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Because that itinerary is on two partners, it's priced under the multi-carrier reward chart so 70k is correct in J: http://www.britishairways.com/travel...e/public/en_gb
As KARFA points out, if you can find availability on the direct flights (JAL or CX) then it will be only 20k in J.
Alternatively, indirect routings but sticking to one carrier (e.g. CX TYO-TPE-HKG) will be the sum of the individual sectors, so again much cheaper than the multi-carrier price.
As KARFA points out, if you can find availability on the direct flights (JAL or CX) then it will be only 20k in J.
Alternatively, indirect routings but sticking to one carrier (e.g. CX TYO-TPE-HKG) will be the sum of the individual sectors, so again much cheaper than the multi-carrier price.
Jun 19, 2017, 3:24 am
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It's likely that there won't be much award availability on and around 12/31. I'd probably look at revenue tickets as well. ET sells the TYO-HKG oneway in C for ~780USD.
Jun 19, 2017, 4:09 am
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It's interesting that I didn't get ET in Google search results but do see it on amex portal and it might actually work well for me
Last edited by Stivelio; Jun 19, 2017 at 4:19 am
Jun 19, 2017, 4:37 am
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I'd go nonstop in that case, less faffing around. The Tokyo lounges are very nice, and crew/ground staff are extremely friendly to cardholders - especially CX - but without status I'd just go nonstop.
Jun 19, 2017, 6:37 am
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CX release Avios redemption availability late
But I do regularly use CX with Avios successfully over this period in Asia.
1. availability usually gets released very late - you need skill using the likes of expertflyer to predict availability.
2. availability is usually in J/F or W. Y class rarely appears other than on flights very early in the day.
Expertflyer or equivalent and hold your breath. Otherwise pay your money. Chances of J/F being available - eventually - has to be high?
Jun 19, 2017, 7:07 am
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I tend to agree.
I have flow HKG to Japan non stop in CX J.
The issue is not that the flights don't exist it's that you're asking for availability on a peak travel period.
Good luck in findig the seats - even Y.
You might want to consider low cost options like Peach Aviation / HK Express to get you over there ?
I have flow HKG to Japan non stop in CX J.
The issue is not that the flights don't exist it's that you're asking for availability on a peak travel period.
Good luck in findig the seats - even Y.
You might want to consider low cost options like Peach Aviation / HK Express to get you over there ?