Original routing credit after QR CAI fiasco.
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Original routing credit after QR CAI fiasco.
I have not found much info on BA and original routing credit.
Does BA officially offer original routing credit in case of IRROPS?
My case is not an IRROPS per se, but has a similarity. Following the political issue between Qatar and other Gulf countries as well as Egypt, QR has changed my booking into a BA routing. Because of this new routing, I will get about the same number of Avios, but will lose 40TPs (2 times the downgrade from F on CAI-DOH and back to BA Club Europe).
Has anybody been able to obtain the missing TPs for such a situation? Or am I SOL?
Does BA officially offer original routing credit in case of IRROPS?
My case is not an IRROPS per se, but has a similarity. Following the political issue between Qatar and other Gulf countries as well as Egypt, QR has changed my booking into a BA routing. Because of this new routing, I will get about the same number of Avios, but will lose 40TPs (2 times the downgrade from F on CAI-DOH and back to BA Club Europe).
Has anybody been able to obtain the missing TPs for such a situation? Or am I SOL?
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If it is a QR booking, would it not be up to QR if they offered you original routing credit? BA will offer ORC on their own flights, but defer to partners I believe if not on BA codes.
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My only experience of ORC is in an IRROPS situation on AA flights. I raised it with BAEC and they dealt with AA who approved the claim.
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I guess once I've flown, I will raise the issue and see what BAEC says. I will update with my experience. Fundamentally, this loss delays my renewing gold status and my long march towards GGL!
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Now I have read your specific case I am not sure this would qualify as IRROPS. In the same way that a timing change may induce a route change months out on AA this seems very similar - and under those circumstances you wouldn't normally get ORC.
ORC is really meant for re-routes during a trip caused by the usual issues of delays and cancellations, it isn't meant to cover re-routes of a trip where that happens some time before.
ORC is really meant for re-routes during a trip caused by the usual issues of delays and cancellations, it isn't meant to cover re-routes of a trip where that happens some time before.
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I have not found much info on BA and original routing credit.
Does BA officially offer original routing credit in case of IRROPS?
My case is not an IRROPS per se, but has a similarity. Following the political issue between Qatar and other Gulf countries as well as Egypt, QR has changed my booking into a BA routing. Because of this new routing, I will get about the same number of Avios, but will lose 40TPs (2 times the downgrade from F on CAI-DOH and back to BA Club Europe).
Has anybody been able to obtain the missing TPs for such a situation? Or am I SOL?
Does BA officially offer original routing credit in case of IRROPS?
My case is not an IRROPS per se, but has a similarity. Following the political issue between Qatar and other Gulf countries as well as Egypt, QR has changed my booking into a BA routing. Because of this new routing, I will get about the same number of Avios, but will lose 40TPs (2 times the downgrade from F on CAI-DOH and back to BA Club Europe).
Has anybody been able to obtain the missing TPs for such a situation? Or am I SOL?
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Your post has got me wondering whether, if we were offered the same change as yourself, QR would allow us to drop the LHR-BRU flight and just fly CAI-LHR only; otherwise we'll be flying CAI-LHR-BRU-LHR .
To be honest I'm less worried about the prospect of potentially losing 100TPs (140 v 60+140+40) each way than the thought of flying BA's 787 rather than QR's 787 or 350 - in J BA don't even come close.
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Really?! You've not said that before!
Although to be willing to add about 6 odd hours to your journey time and still have to fly Short Haul BA, you must truly love QR!
Edit- And at that price too probably worth it the extra time
Although to be willing to add about 6 odd hours to your journey time and still have to fly Short Haul BA, you must truly love QR!
Edit- And at that price too probably worth it the extra time
Last edited by Cap'n Benj; Jun 13, 2017 at 5:52 am
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At the time of booking BA CAI-LHR-CAI CW was north of GBP1,500 v QR CAI-DOH-BRU-DOH-CAI at GBP700 (plus the minimal cost of BA BRU-LHR-BRU). Multiply that by two (wife and self) and I'm more than willing to spend a few extra hours travelling and save circa GBP1,500 on what is a leisure trip to the UK (timed for Eid al-Adha) experiencing what I believe to be a superior product. Amongst other considerations, and despite my earlier comments, 480TPs (QR/BA) v 280TPs (BA) is not without its advantages - unlike many here it saves me having to read the TP run thread.
Just two weeks ago Mrs PtF completed an 'emergency' BA CAI-LHR-CAI CW 787 journey - like me she thinks the 787 CW seats are rubbish (like sitting in a coffin) compared to QR's 787; and QR's A350 is even better in terms of seat quality and spaciousness (I won't even bore you further with other in-flight differences).
The thing is, I'm not the first person here to make similar comments; and I'm sure I won't be the last. If your preference is BA, good luck to you.
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On the other hand, you are right about priorities. QR's product is far superior and I was looking forward to using their STPC on the way back. I've never had a chance to take advantage of it yet.
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That's 800 TPs for less than GBP1,300 to places I actually want to travel to, as opposed to having to perform a time and money-consuming Tier Point run to somewhere I have no real need to visit. And people still wonder why it sometimes make more sense to fly 'A' to 'B' via 'C', rather than fly direct from 'A' to 'B'.
Don't say that too loudly on this forum; it upsets the natives!
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