One thing this does tend to show up, like those other examples mentioned, is those who generally think only of themselves in their behavior, and those who have a bit of consideration for others and are willing to make small sacrifices for the benefit of the majority. I assume those who say 'I chose the window, I can do what I like with it, screw everyone else' take that attitude into other aspects of life.
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Originally Posted by Doc Savage
(Post 28388104)
I believe you mean transparent.
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Originally Posted by nallison
(Post 28388118)
One thing this does tend to show up, like those other examples mentioned, is those who generally think only of themselves in their behavior, and those who have a bit of consideration for others and are willing to make small sacrifices for the benefit of the majority. I assume those who say 'I chose the window, I can do what I like with it, screw everyone else' take that attitude into other aspects of life.
But yes I take your point, people can be selfish and I know some will refuse to wear eye shades and instead ask those at the window to close their blind instead. |
When I fly on the BA249 LHR-GIG, it's a daytime lasting 11 hours that leaves in the morning and arrives in the evening (which in the summer months, can still be light). The entire journey is made with all the blinds down; I can't remember and instance when this was not the case. The crew tour the cabin after the meal and lower the blinds; nobody questions this policy. This is much better for everyone as people can choose to sleep or watch IFE in comfort. In any case, there is nothing to see out of the windows over the Atlantic Ocean and only a small number of passengers are actually seated in a window, so why should the minority rule the majority?
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Originally Posted by BrianWBrazil
(Post 28388231)
...and only a small number of passengers are actually seated in a window, so why should the minority rule the majority?
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Originally Posted by BrianWBrazil;28388231...
so why should the minority rule the majority?
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tough one and I guess there are no right or wrong answers. The best way to safeguard yourself would be to pick up a window seat yourself next time as it could give you a bit more privacy and less direct light exposure if you just lay down facing your closed window.
Nevertheless you can always make good use of the first class kit provided... ^ |
Originally Posted by golfmad
(Post 28388452)
Because it's not a democracy.
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Originally Posted by nallison
(Post 28388650)
Actually it kind of is, as it's public transport and on most airlines the policy is indeed that the majority rules with flight attendants representing their wishes and asking that you put down your window shade.
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Originally Posted by Tobias-UK
(Post 28388146)
I don't see it like that at all. There are two reasons for asking to have the blinds closed (1) sun in the eyes of another passenger/IFE screen glare and (2) sleeping. For (1), I'd gladly oblige, for (2) the airline provides eye shades.
But yes I take your point, people can be selfish and I know some will refuse to wear eye shades and instead ask those at the window to close their blind instead. Someone always makes that point which is of course completely irrational/illogical, as it is for the benefit of a group rather than an individual that shades are lowered. If the majority prefer the shade lowered and only one wants it raised which causes significant disturbance to others, I think the English language is clear which is being selfish. But you know that. |
Originally Posted by KARFA
(Post 28388682)
Why does a few flight attendants asking you represent a democracy? Also there is no problem saying no if asked as a BA cc member has indicated in this thread already.
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Originally Posted by nallison
(Post 28388684)
As I said, I like sitting by the window, I like to look out of it, so I'm not sure who you are referring to? But I will lower it out of respect for others.
Someone always makes that point which is of course completely irrational/illogical, as it is for the benefit of a group rather than an individual that shades are lowered. If the majority prefer the shade lowered and only one wants it raised which causes significant disturbance to others, I think the English language is clear which is being selfish. But you know that. |
Originally Posted by Tobias-UK
(Post 28388146)
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But yes I take your point, people can be selfish and I know some will refuse to wear eye shades and instead ask those at the window to close their blind instead. |
Originally Posted by nallison
(Post 28388700)
They are there trying to balance everyone's wishes as best as possible, and while you can say no (a lot of airlines are not so flexible) it doesn't mean you don't look a bit of an arse to everyone else on board. It's fairly DYKWIA to start refusing crew requests to make the flight more comfortable for everyone else.
As noted the crew have to be seen to ask, but you are perfectly ok to say no. I can't see the DYKWIA element in that. |
Originally Posted by nallison
(Post 28388700)
They are there trying to balance everyone's wishes as best as possible, and while you can say no (a lot of airlines are not so flexible) it doesn't mean you don't look a bit of an arse to everyone else on board. It's fairly DYKWIA to start refusing crew requests to make the flight more comfortable for everyone else.
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