Is photo ID currently needed for domestic flights? (BAEC card not deemed enough)
May 30, 2017, 6:27 am
#31
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Unless you don't have a passport or driving licence, either permanently or temporarily. Should I have been effectively banned from flying domestically while my passport was with the Russian embassy?
Last edited by dsf; May 30, 2017 at 6:28 am Reason: don't use entirely wrong words.
May 30, 2017, 6:29 am
#32
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You have no other form of ID other than your passport?? What we don't know is how BA would react if you told them that, this may just trigger some additional checks. It certainly shouldn't ban you from travel, but lets not make any assumptions here.
May 30, 2017, 6:32 am
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May 30, 2017, 6:34 am
#34
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Those of us that travel domestically on airlines other than BA (flybe for example) are used to showing photo ID on such flights. They do it as revenue protection to ensure that the person using the (likely non transferrable) ticket is the person who bought it. Of course, we all know that in reality you don't have to have a passport or ID to fly domestically, same as if you got on a bus or train.
May 30, 2017, 6:37 am
#35
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I think that wording is there because the police do have powers to require you to produce ID when at an airport, and this includes on domestic flights (I think this is under Terrorism Act 2000).
This rarely happens though, and you are right that there is no blanket requirement to show ID when travelling on a domestic flight. I have traveled many times on BA domestic flights with carry on bags only and not needed to show any ID.
This rarely happens though, and you are right that there is no blanket requirement to show ID when travelling on a domestic flight. I have traveled many times on BA domestic flights with carry on bags only and not needed to show any ID.
ETA: Just had a quick review and you are correct in relation to the Terrorist Act 2000 but only when leaving or entering the UK.
Last edited by strichener; May 30, 2017 at 6:43 am Reason: Reviewed
May 30, 2017, 6:46 am
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Nope. Never learnt to drive (neither have my blind friends), and I've none of the others on the official list either https://www.gov.uk/government/public...or-individuals
May 30, 2017, 6:48 am
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Sorry, why are you now suggesting dsf should be carrying any of these things? We do not require ID to travel in the UK.
May 30, 2017, 6:49 am
#38
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The way I read it those (birth certificate notwithstanding) are proof of address, not proof of name/ID. Perhaps I'm wrong. Besides, none of them have my photo on.
May 30, 2017, 6:50 am
#39
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Technically there is not such thing as Photo ID in the UK
A passport is a travel document on an ID documents
A driving license is a documents giving the holder permission to operate certain types of motor vehicle.
There is actually no ID document in the UK there things which may be used to establish your identity.
A passport is a travel document on an ID documents
A driving license is a documents giving the holder permission to operate certain types of motor vehicle.
There is actually no ID document in the UK there things which may be used to establish your identity.
May 30, 2017, 6:51 am
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It also isn't just the Terrorism Act that police can ask you to confirm your identity, see the Police and Criminal Evidence Act and the Criminal Justice and Public Order Act. For example, a S60 CJPOA 1994 could be applied to airports and then reasonable suspicion would not be required as used for the Notting Hill Carnival.
Last edited by navylad; May 30, 2017 at 7:03 am
May 30, 2017, 6:58 am
#41
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I was detained under the Terrorism Act when I couldn't produce my passport at LBA. The officer didn't believe me when I said I didn't need one. After a quick search and some background checks (and some words of advice from me) I was allowed to continue on my way. I still don't carry my passport on Domestic flights.
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May 30, 2017, 7:01 am
#43
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It's not misleading, it says you need some form or ID, which may be your BAEC card to check in, but on the same page it says to ensure you carry the appropriate passport or visa, which links to the page that was linked on this thread a few post prior which states that you should carry photo ID on domestic flights which can be asked for.
Looks like I'll need to add another binary divider of types of people':
- those who worry that they are carrying too much cash vs those who worry they are carrying too little (hat tip to Ian Banks)
- those who worry that they will have too little time at the airport, vs those who worry that they will have too much
and now
- those who worry that we don't have enough 'security' vs those who are deeply concerned that we already have far too much...
Can you tell which why I lean on the last one?
May 30, 2017, 7:05 am
#44
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I'm suggesting, since all domestic airlines state that you should carry ID with you and dsf has said that he doesn't have a driving license or currently access to a passport, that he may wish to carry some of the other things on the list that he produced from the government website to assist should he be asked to confirm his ID. I am not saying he legally has to carry these documents, just what I would do if I was in his situation and not out for a lengthy chat with the police; I'd much rather be in the lounge and make my flight.
May 30, 2017, 7:11 am
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