27 May BA IT outage miscellaneous discussions thread
#586
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This a great example of what BA should have said from Gene Kim (who's pretty well known in the DevOps world)
https://itrevolution.com/imaginary-a...r-airline-ceo/
https://itrevolution.com/imaginary-a...r-airline-ceo/
Wouldn't be nice to have a letter that said, "We screwed up. We're sorry. Here's your money back. Here's the statutory compensation you are entitled to. Here's a few thousand Avios / flight voucher /whatever. Please give us another chance. love and Kisses AC or WW"
Just once?
#587
Join Date: May 2013
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Well indeed, could be a good marketing move if BA went to automatic EC261 compensation, perhaps saying only for those booking direct, seams to have worked well for Virgin Trains and I think people may then book direct if there was not much difference in price which is often the case.
As it is, this together with the rather clumsy attempt to divert 'duty of care' claims onto insurers just looks a bit feeble.
#588
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This a great example of what BA should have said from Gene Kim (who's pretty well known in the DevOps world)
https://itrevolution.com/imaginary-a...r-airline-ceo/
https://itrevolution.com/imaginary-a...r-airline-ceo/
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#590
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BA refuses compensation -for cancellation 27 May IT outage
Hi there,
I am one of may affected by the British Airways / BA cancellations on Sat 27 May. I was relocated to another flight two days later and I followed their procedure to submit my claim for cancellation compensation through their website.
Surprise, surprise… I got today the attached screenshot as an answer where they refuse my claim…
…I'd like to inform you that your claim’s been refused because BAXXXX on 27 May was cancelled because of operational circumstances outside of our control. Under EU legislation, I’m afraid we’re not liable for a compensation payment in this situation. I'm sorry to disappoint you…
I am really shocked with this and the rest of the attached email. Is this agent aware that British Airways have publicly described the issue as a "technical problem" and not a cyber attack, therefore the airline is responsible for compensation under EU regulation 261/2004? How come the rest of the thousands of passengers affected are getting their compensations?
Obviously this agent doesn´t seem to be of help, so I called BA support line for flight refunds but all the calls are terminated after a recorded message stating that their operators are busy, thus try later (same) or go to the website.
Please could you advise? Also, anyone else in the same situation?
Thanks
http://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0V4...ew?usp=sharing
I am one of may affected by the British Airways / BA cancellations on Sat 27 May. I was relocated to another flight two days later and I followed their procedure to submit my claim for cancellation compensation through their website.
Surprise, surprise… I got today the attached screenshot as an answer where they refuse my claim…
…I'd like to inform you that your claim’s been refused because BAXXXX on 27 May was cancelled because of operational circumstances outside of our control. Under EU legislation, I’m afraid we’re not liable for a compensation payment in this situation. I'm sorry to disappoint you…
I am really shocked with this and the rest of the attached email. Is this agent aware that British Airways have publicly described the issue as a "technical problem" and not a cyber attack, therefore the airline is responsible for compensation under EU regulation 261/2004? How come the rest of the thousands of passengers affected are getting their compensations?
Obviously this agent doesn´t seem to be of help, so I called BA support line for flight refunds but all the calls are terminated after a recorded message stating that their operators are busy, thus try later (same) or go to the website.
Please could you advise? Also, anyone else in the same situation?
Thanks
http://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0V4...ew?usp=sharing
#591
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Refused ec261
Hi there,
I am one of may affected by the British Airways / BA cancellations on Sat 27 May. I was relocated to another flight two days later and I followed their procedure to submit my claim for cancellation compensation through their website.
Surprise, surprise… I got today the attached screenshot as an answer where they refuse my claim…
…I'd like to inform you that your claim’s been refused because BAXXXX on 27 May was cancelled because of operational circumstances outside of our control. Under EU legislation, I’m afraid we’re not liable for a compensation payment in this situation. I'm sorry to disappoint you…
I am really shocked with this and the rest of the attached email. Is this agent aware that British Airways have publicly described the issue as a "technical problem" and not a cyber attack, therefore the airline is responsible for compensation under EU regulation 261/2004? How come the rest of the thousands of passengers affected are getting their compensations?
Obviously this agent doesn´t seem to be of help, so I called BA support line for flight refunds but all the calls are terminated after a recorded message stating that their operators are busy, thus try later (same) or go to the website.
Please could you advise? Also, anyone else in the same situation?
Thanks
http://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0V4...ew?usp=sharing
I am one of may affected by the British Airways / BA cancellations on Sat 27 May. I was relocated to another flight two days later and I followed their procedure to submit my claim for cancellation compensation through their website.
Surprise, surprise… I got today the attached screenshot as an answer where they refuse my claim…
…I'd like to inform you that your claim’s been refused because BAXXXX on 27 May was cancelled because of operational circumstances outside of our control. Under EU legislation, I’m afraid we’re not liable for a compensation payment in this situation. I'm sorry to disappoint you…
I am really shocked with this and the rest of the attached email. Is this agent aware that British Airways have publicly described the issue as a "technical problem" and not a cyber attack, therefore the airline is responsible for compensation under EU regulation 261/2004? How come the rest of the thousands of passengers affected are getting their compensations?
Obviously this agent doesn´t seem to be of help, so I called BA support line for flight refunds but all the calls are terminated after a recorded message stating that their operators are busy, thus try later (same) or go to the website.
Please could you advise? Also, anyone else in the same situation?
Thanks
http://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0V4...ew?usp=sharing
suggest you post again on the compensation thread. Lots of people have posted to say that they are being paid.
#593
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This a great example of what BA should have said from Gene Kim (who's pretty well known in the DevOps world)
https://itrevolution.com/imaginary-a...r-airline-ceo/
https://itrevolution.com/imaginary-a...r-airline-ceo/
#594
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-40285288
WW now saying it will cost BA £80 million and was caused by someone pulling a plug and sticking it back in again.
WW now saying it will cost BA £80 million and was caused by someone pulling a plug and sticking it back in again.
#595
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I would imagine the £80m figure has a measure of accuracy about it - if only because exact numbers will eventually show up in the accounts, and WW would find himself with (yet more) explaining to do if he is later deemed to have misled shareholders and the City by underestimating the cost to any significant extent.
As to how the whole sorry mess actually came about ..... hmm... that's a whole different matter of course. I'm really not sure how many people (if indeed any ...?) actually swallow his waffle about the power being accidentally turned off ....likening it to someone inadvertently knocking their freezer switch whilst giving the kitchen / utility room a spring-clean.
As to how the whole sorry mess actually came about ..... hmm... that's a whole different matter of course. I'm really not sure how many people (if indeed any ...?) actually swallow his waffle about the power being accidentally turned off ....likening it to someone inadvertently knocking their freezer switch whilst giving the kitchen / utility room a spring-clean.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-40285288
WW now saying it will cost BA £80 million and was caused by someone pulling a plug and sticking it back in again.
WW now saying it will cost BA £80 million and was caused by someone pulling a plug and sticking it back in again.
Which seems to suggest they don't expect to pay full compensation.
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It is a monumental PR disaster for what was once considered the nation’s favourite airline, whose parent company, United Airline Group, made a record £144 million profit in the last quarter.
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