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Old May 27, 2017, 8:25 am
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All IT systems are back up and running and BA are operating normal flight schedules.

PLEASE ASK ALL COMPENSATION RELATED QUESTIONS IN THE DEDICATED TOPIC: The 2017 BA compensation thread: Your guide to Regulation 261/2004. The full list of cancelled and delayed flights for Sunday is to be found here, though note that it is the arrival time that matters for delays.

Successful (or otherwise) reports for claims where the information would be of use to others would, however, be very welcome in this thread.

Monday flight cancellations for LHR listed here. Services to and from LGW, LCY and STN seem to be working more or less on time.. Telephone numbers for rebooking are in this post, note also the difference between what contact centres and airport staff can do, noted here.

Updated 29/05/2017 22:50 (UK time) Link to BA updates: https://www.britishairways.com/trave...VINF4more_news

Baggage
There are a significant number of bags at Heathrow which we will be reuniting with customers via couriers as soon as we can. This will be done free of charge. Please help us to get these to you as quickly as possible by ensuring we have your latest contact details by filing a delayed bag report.



If your journey was disrupted -
Because of the scale of the disruption, most passengers should expect to make their own arrangements to mitigate the disruption as BA will not have resources to assist all passengers. BA have a duty of care under EU Regulation 261/2004 and according to this letter handed out at Gatwick the following costs would usually be claimable from BA.
  • £25 for reasonable meal/refeshment expenses (per adult per day)
  • 2 reasonable phone calls per customer

If an overnight stay is required
  • £200 for a hotel room (for 2 people)
  • £50 Transport to/from the airport (round trip)

Although BA has suggested some guideline costs for duty of care, EU Regulation 261/2004 doesn't specify any monetary cap. By documenting (take a screen capture of a hotel comparison site for example) that there were no cheaper alternatives, it is possible that claims exceeding the guideline costs suggested by BA may be met. Expenses not covered by BA may be claimable from your travel insurance subject to possible policy excesses.

Duty of care is separate from fixed sum compensation (EUR 250 to 600 depending on the flight distance) for flight delays/cancellations, which may or may not be payable under EU Regulation 261/2004 depending on whether BA can show that the flight delay was caused by 'extraordinary circumstances' and that it took 'all reasonable measures' to avoid the resulting delay. Also, airlines do not usually entertain claims for consequential losses (for example, the cost of prepaid accomodation which you can't now use), so you would need to look to your travel insurance for these costs.

EU Regulation 261/2004 does not cover delayed/damaged/lost baggage. The Montreal Convention sets an upper limit for delayed/damaged/lost baggage compensation. For more information, visit the BA.com webpage on delayed/damaged/lost baggage.

You can read the forum thread for guidance on EU Regulation 261/2004 or check back on these forums later for more advice on claiming, but first of all look after yourself during this disruption.

Claiming expenses incurred during the disruption
https://disruptionclaim.britishairways.com/

Historic update as of 18:55 on Saturday

All BA flights from LHR and LGW are cancelled for the remainder of the day (Saturday 27th May). This is due to a major systems outage of most of BA's computer systems. The original cause of the outage was a power failure from which BA has found it difficult to recover.

Because Call Centre systems are also down, and their own web pages may be affected, BA is encouraging affected customer to seek updates via BA Twitter feed and Facebook page.

Alex Cruz has indicated that those passengers who no longer wish to fly with BA on their booking for today will be "fast tracked" for refunds. However, no mechanism for this has yet been communicated (7pm Saturday). Again affected customers are asked to follow the relevant Twitter and Facebook communication channels.

There are reportedly long delays leaving the airport with some customers claiming delays of many hours.
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Old May 27, 2017, 9:28 am
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Originally Posted by suntravler
If I can get to London on another airline, will BA automatically cancel my reservation for my ongoing flights on same pnr?

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Usually if you do it as a separate booking yes. Are you able to go to the airport? They may be rebook you on another airline anyway.
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Old May 27, 2017, 9:28 am
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I wonder if it's worth heading to the airport and seeing if they'll sneak me on the earlier flight
Act fast, as others will be thinking the same. Try calling the US BA number first to see if they can move you - if the phone system is not in melt down already.

I have had the evening BA48 flight delayed twice, and as I had a half day of work just stuck with my flight and arrived late evening. Both times the flight was very quiet as most passengers where moved to the early flight.
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Old May 27, 2017, 9:29 am
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Hmm both flights from JNB and the cpt one just zeroed out. I don't like that looks of that.
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Old May 27, 2017, 9:29 am
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If I can get to London on another airline, will BA automatically cancel my reservation for my ongoing flights on same pnr?

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I doubt it—almost everyone will be a no show—but you should be entitled to get it re-instated.
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Old May 27, 2017, 9:29 am
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Can confirm all flights cancelled out of lhr today. I'm not even allowed into the terminal from departures. No clarity on rebooking as systems remain down.
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Old May 27, 2017, 9:30 am
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Originally Posted by suntravler
When I try to access the link given at the top for status reports, I just get that the website is busy.

Can anyone tell me the status of #226 ATL - LHR ?? I assume it depends on the status of # 227 which was supposed to leave LHR but I assume it has been cancelled.

Anyone know if 227 has been rescheduled?

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If you put BA227 into search it will come up with flight radar sites, it doesn't look like the flight is going anywhere.
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Old May 27, 2017, 9:31 am
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I'm in my way to ATL. Will see what re-booking options there are. But unfortunately in this circumstance, all flights are on one pnr

thanks for the help
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Old May 27, 2017, 9:31 am
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Can confirm all flights cancelled out of lhr today. I'm not even allowed into the terminal from departures. No clarity on rebooking as systems remain down.
Well we have just received a message at 16.27 saying to continue to report for flights departing after 18.00.
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Old May 27, 2017, 9:31 am
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Originally Posted by sammyg901
Sky reporting all flights cancelled until end of the day

http://news.sky.com/story/ba-passeng...ption-10894862
Due to travel home this eve from FCO to LHR, chaos at Rome airport so on the way to Roma for the evening, hotel booked before the masses.

How long does the rebooking process take? Should I call them later this eve?
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Old May 27, 2017, 9:32 am
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BBC also just flashed a breaking news alert that all BA flights from Heathrow and Gatwick for the rest of today have been cancelled.
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Old May 27, 2017, 9:32 am
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BBC now reporting all flights cancelled for today.
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Old May 27, 2017, 9:32 am
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Thanks CIHY.

Do you think there's any way to save my future flights if I don't make the first leg?
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Old May 27, 2017, 9:32 am
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If I can trust FR, there's currently only 24 BA planes in the air (a number that will surely fall as the morning flights begin to arrive at their destinations). That means over 90% of their fleet is currently on the ground. Whoops. You normally need a natural disaster or international emergency for that.
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Old May 27, 2017, 9:33 am
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Sod it. As soon as I get official confirmation that the flight is cancelled then I'm going to book the QF flight. I might have to fight BA to get my money back, but it's better than sitting in damn limbo overnight...
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Old May 27, 2017, 9:34 am
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Where is Cruz or Walsh? Press statement? Appalling airline. Yes, it happens and is out of their control but they could do so much better via comms channels. Managers in hiding.
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