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Old May 8, 2017, 7:14 am
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The rise of the "Fake" lounge and other matters arising...

Good afternoon gentle reader from the champagne bar of the F lounge ,

On an ex EU out of AMS to BKK departing on the BA 9 glider...and I'll make Gold again...hurrah...

After visiting the lounge at AMS I've decided that we need to have a new classification recognising the rise of the BA "fake" lounge.

These are the lounges whose food and facilities are so dismal that frankly its best to stay outside with the unwashed and pay up...in other words they are "fake" lounges.

Frankly BA would be better off simply roping off an area somewhere in the departure hall, provide a few chairs, a flask of coffee, a basket of biscuits and perhaps a big portaloo...and have done with the pretence of it. They should now and hence forth be referred to as "waiting rooms"...similar to those on the LNER a century ago.

Next rant...

The flight out of AMS was delayed by 50 minutes due to seven passengers not making it to the gate and the inevitable need to off load luggage. Clearly we had a group of lads after a weekend on the piss, somehow making it to the airport on time but getting lost on the way to the gate.

Well Amsterdam has a museum of torture and it did occur to me that perhaps BA could rent some of their...errr...implements and allow those with status to put them to good use on such miscreants.

Their bodies (I mean the miscreants, not those with status), smeared with tar to preserve them, would then be placed in iron cages and hoisted from a gibbet placed specially at the take-off zone for all to see...like pirates of old...@:-)

Just an idea...I am 14 years old ok...??

Chris

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Old May 8, 2017, 7:20 am
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Originally Posted by Chris_G
Just an idea...I am 14 years old ok...??
Yes, well that's quite old around here, I sometimes feel.

Smile, be happy for the lads who probably had a wicked weekend, the lounge has a terrific view, and it's going to be a great day for flying into London, view wise. So mostly it's good. And AMS is more compact than BKK!
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Old May 8, 2017, 7:24 am
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Originally Posted by Chris_G
Good afternoon gentle reader from the champagne bar of the F lounge ,

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Just an idea...I am 14 years old ok...??
You shouldn't be drinking in the Lounge anyway: you're under-age for having access to unlimited free alcohol. Are you accompanied by a responsible adult*?



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Old May 8, 2017, 7:28 am
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Originally Posted by Chris_G

Frankly BA would be better off simply roping off an area somewhere in the departure hall, provide a few chairs, a flask of coffee, a basket of biscuits and perhaps a big portaloo...and have done with the pretence of it. They should now and hence forth be referred to as "waiting rooms"...similar to those on the LNER a century ago.
You can't have been to NBO in the last few years - there is no executive portaloo
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Old May 8, 2017, 7:34 am
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Originally Posted by Chris_G
After visiting the lounge at AMS I've decided that we need to have a new classification recognising the rise of the BA "fake" lounge.

These are the lounges whose food and facilities are so dismal that frankly its best to stay outside with the unwashed and pay up...in other words they are "fake" lounges.
For those who may have missed the news, FT is offering a prize to the first poster to include the LHR T5 Galleries lounges in this new category.
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Old May 8, 2017, 7:39 am
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AMS has Stroopwafels and Chocomel. What else would one need?

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Old May 8, 2017, 7:40 am
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Originally Posted by Chris_G
Frankly BA would be better off simply roping off an area somewhere in the departure hall, provide a few chairs, a flask of coffee, a basket of biscuits and perhaps a big portaloo...and have done with the pretence of it.
Fly Air Berlin. That's precisely their lounge concept and they call them "Executive waiting areas".

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Old May 8, 2017, 7:45 am
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Typical FT thread....expecting top notch service while flying on the cheap.

I suspect a 14 year old would have a much more realistic attitude to it all.
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Old May 8, 2017, 7:50 am
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You have to be careful complaining about things like this. In these BA cost led days - feedback like that could lead to missives from BA that read "following customer feedback about the quality of our overseas lounges we've decided to improve the range and quality by shutting every overseas lounge and going into partnership with wetherspoons (a 'quality' British brand) to provide lounge access with a per usage fee. You'll be able to buy access on the door and food/drink once inside with Avois or Card (cash not accepted). All lounges will close immediately but the new lounge facilities will come on stream over the next 20 years. Food and drink provision will be first come first served with availability carefully worked out so that 1/2 the people don't get their first choice."
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Old May 8, 2017, 7:54 am
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Not sure where the 50 minutes comes from? It was 31 minutes late pushing back, and arrived 32 minutes late at T5.

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Flight Status Search:
Departing on 08/05/17
Flying BA flight 431

Flight   Status           Depart Location  Depart Date                   Reliability  Arrive Location  Arrive Date
                          AMS              Scheduled: 08/05/17 11:40 AM               LHR              Scheduled: 08/05/17 12:00 PM
BA 431   Landed           Term:            Estimated: 08/05/17 12:11 PM  71% / 16m    Term: 5          Estimated: 08/05/17 12:32 PM
                          Gate:            Actual: 08/05/17 12:11 PM                  Gate:            Actual: 08/05/17 12:32 PM
                                                                                      Baggage: 3


Comments:
"DOBA431/08MAY
* OPERATIONAL FLIGHT INFO *            BA 431    0 MO 08MAY17   
CITY INFO                                       HOUR (LOCAL)  
  
AMS  ESTIMATED TIME OF DEPARTURE                1140            
     LEFT THE GATE                              1211            
     TOOK OFF                                   1232            
     ESTIMATED TIME OF ARRIVAL                  1237     LHR    
LHR  AIRCRAFT LANDED                            1225            
     ARRIVED                                    1232
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Old May 8, 2017, 7:56 am
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Well lets be honest here, the food in GC is much worse than other dining establishments at T5, so you would only be eating in GC to 'save money' = ), especially if you are flying Y as you cannot rely on being well fed on board!
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Old May 8, 2017, 7:59 am
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OP is perfectly correct as regards the food offerings at BA's lounge at AMS. In that respect, it truly is dire. Indeed, if the lounge disappeared completely I do wonder how many people would actually lament its loss ..... ? (plane-spotters perhaps, for it doth indeed have fine tarmac views)

I would advise maybe a quick stop-off there for a coffee, and then shelling out some cash on decent food - should any be needed - in the main concourse ; especially as the area closest to the lounge is rather attractive. I recall a particularly impressive travel bookstall too.

An alternative would be to pay for access to the far superior Aspire lounge a minute or so from BA's. (and of course if flying out on say, QR, then you can use Aspire anyway).
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Old May 8, 2017, 8:01 am
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Originally Posted by KARFA
Not sure where the 50 minutes comes from? It was 31 minutes late pushing back, and arrived 32 minutes late at T5.

Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.com
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Flight Status Search:
Departing on 08/05/17
Flying BA flight 431

Flight   Status           Depart Location  Depart Date                   Reliability  Arrive Location  Arrive Date
                          AMS              Scheduled: 08/05/17 11:40 AM               LHR              Scheduled: 08/05/17 12:00 PM
BA 431   Landed           Term:            Estimated: 08/05/17 12:11 PM  71% / 16m    Term: 5          Estimated: 08/05/17 12:32 PM
                          Gate:            Actual: 08/05/17 12:11 PM                  Gate:            Actual: 08/05/17 12:32 PM
                                                                                      Baggage: 3


Comments:
"DOBA431/08MAY
* OPERATIONAL FLIGHT INFO *            BA 431    0 MO 08MAY17   
CITY INFO                                       HOUR (LOCAL)  
  
AMS  ESTIMATED TIME OF DEPARTURE                1140            
     LEFT THE GATE                              1211            
     TOOK OFF                                   1232            
     ESTIMATED TIME OF ARRIVAL                  1237     LHR    
LHR  AIRCRAFT LANDED                            1225            
     ARRIVED                                    1232
31 minutes late can lead to drastic consequences in some quarters
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Old May 8, 2017, 8:01 am
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Originally Posted by KARFA
Not sure where the 50 minutes comes from? It was 31 minutes late pushing back, and arrived 32 minutes late at T5.

Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.com
Code:
Flight Status Search:
Departing on 08/05/17
Flying BA flight 431

Flight   Status           Depart Location  Depart Date                   Reliability  Arrive Location  Arrive Date
                          AMS              Scheduled: 08/05/17 11:40 AM               LHR              Scheduled: 08/05/17 12:00 PM
BA 431   Landed           Term:            Estimated: 08/05/17 12:11 PM  71% / 16m    Term: 5          Estimated: 08/05/17 12:32 PM
                          Gate:            Actual: 08/05/17 12:11 PM                  Gate:            Actual: 08/05/17 12:32 PM
                                                                                      Baggage: 3


Comments:
"DOBA431/08MAY
* OPERATIONAL FLIGHT INFO *            BA 431    0 MO 08MAY17   
CITY INFO                                       HOUR (LOCAL)  
  
AMS  ESTIMATED TIME OF DEPARTURE                1140            
     LEFT THE GATE                              1211            
     TOOK OFF                                   1232            
     ESTIMATED TIME OF ARRIVAL                  1237     LHR    
LHR  AIRCRAFT LANDED                            1225            
     ARRIVED                                    1232
Look before you leap OP - there's always someone more suitably qualified (Karfa et al) who will come along and burst your bubble
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Old May 8, 2017, 8:03 am
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Originally Posted by rapidex
31 minutes late can lead to drastic consequences in some quarters
Lol, will there come a time when I am not reminded of yesterday?
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