New member. Hi! (3 Point Thread)
#2
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 5,596
1.1 guest is exactly that.You may well get away with a baby,but when s/he turns into a child that will be a problem.
2.I use my avios for flight redemptions,but upgrades are equally useful.What will you do with baby/child?Have you looked into opening a household account?
3.BA seem to be changing the equipment on SAN rather regularly,so cant help.
4.Welcome to the BA forum.C-W-S will be along shortly to make it "official".
2.I use my avios for flight redemptions,but upgrades are equally useful.What will you do with baby/child?Have you looked into opening a household account?
3.BA seem to be changing the equipment on SAN rather regularly,so cant help.
4.Welcome to the BA forum.C-W-S will be along shortly to make it "official".
#4
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Gloucestershire
Programs: BA Gold (ex-GGL, maybe future Silver), Hilton Diamond
Posts: 6,198
1. Babies don't need their own seat and don't count as a guest. If they're two, they're strictly a guest.
2. You'll usually get more value per point by upgrading but it depends on the route, availability, and preferences. It's not a hard and fast rule: if you need to do a midweek transatlantic return in summer with no Saturday night you'll probably get more value (financially) in economy, as opposed to upgrading from economy to premium economy for a fortnight in February.
Personally, I get a lot of value out of last minute short-haul bookings and upgrades from World Traveller Plus to Club World - and I suspect that's a common answer for those who fly enough to earn the miles. But it's all down to your own financial and personal circumstances.
(Someone I know was delighted to get 0.5p/avios on a redemption with a purely because he always flies paid First anyway, hence can't be upgraded and has more avios than he knows how to use; personally, I wouldn't redeem below 1p/avios).
3./4. As above.
2. You'll usually get more value per point by upgrading but it depends on the route, availability, and preferences. It's not a hard and fast rule: if you need to do a midweek transatlantic return in summer with no Saturday night you'll probably get more value (financially) in economy, as opposed to upgrading from economy to premium economy for a fortnight in February.
Personally, I get a lot of value out of last minute short-haul bookings and upgrades from World Traveller Plus to Club World - and I suspect that's a common answer for those who fly enough to earn the miles. But it's all down to your own financial and personal circumstances.
(Someone I know was delighted to get 0.5p/avios on a redemption with a purely because he always flies paid First anyway, hence can't be upgraded and has more avios than he knows how to use; personally, I wouldn't redeem below 1p/avios).
3./4. As above.
#5
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Gloucestershire
Programs: BA Gold (ex-GGL, maybe future Silver), Hilton Diamond
Posts: 6,198
1. She is 14months old right now. I assume they see 2y/o as the turning point? (as that is the age she becomes a PAX and needs a seat). If that is the case... Do they ask to see passports? or just "estimate" age like a bus driver? She is very little...
2. Didn't know there was such a thing as a household account? My wife never really flies (she is a teacher) so not sure there would be much benefit? Does it mean we can collect both our points on the one (my) account?
3. Thanks anyway.
2. Didn't know there was such a thing as a household account? My wife never really flies (she is a teacher) so not sure there would be much benefit? Does it mean we can collect both our points on the one (my) account?
3. Thanks anyway.
#6
Original Poster
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: GLA
Programs: BAEC: BRONZE (Basic member: KLM, Emirates, United)
Posts: 134
However... by "strictly" a guest. Can i ask if anyone has personal experience... do they literally check all babies age via passport? or is it at the discretion of the club staff? I know it's not technically right but it's hardly the crime of the century getting my family into the lounge once or twice if she is 2 years and 4 days old.
I ask because we are planning a short holiday next year (feb/march) but she will just have ticked over to 2 years old.
#7
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 5,596
Household accounts mean all your paid flights credit to the individual,and the total pot is aggregated.You need a head of household,who manages the account.When little one is on a paid ticket you can collect avios for her into the household account.It is much easier for family holiday redemptions,and when she starts going places with her friends like young rapidex does,you can just get her a ticket.(Forward planning)
Whilst you cannot transfer Iberia avios into a BAEC account,the workaround is to go IB-Avios avios-BA.The transfer is instant.
Now you are hooked,I guess we will see more of you here
Whilst you cannot transfer Iberia avios into a BAEC account,the workaround is to go IB-Avios avios-BA.The transfer is instant.
Now you are hooked,I guess we will see more of you here
#8
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 5,596
Thanks, I understand.
However... by "strictly" a guest. Can i ask if anyone has personal experience... do they literally check all babies age via passport? or is it at the discretion of the club staff? I know it's not technically right but it's hardly the crime of the century getting my family into the lounge once or twice if she is 2 years and 4 days old.
I ask because we are planning a short holiday next year (feb/march) but she will just have ticked over to 2 years old.
However... by "strictly" a guest. Can i ask if anyone has personal experience... do they literally check all babies age via passport? or is it at the discretion of the club staff? I know it's not technically right but it's hardly the crime of the century getting my family into the lounge once or twice if she is 2 years and 4 days old.
I ask because we are planning a short holiday next year (feb/march) but she will just have ticked over to 2 years old.
#9
Original Poster
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: GLA
Programs: BAEC: BRONZE (Basic member: KLM, Emirates, United)
Posts: 134
Urgh. That's that then.. ah well. Least I can use the lounge on my business travel.
That said, I always try and make my connection as tight as possible so rarely have any down time in the airport.
If we go somewhere in December I can get them both in I suppose. XMAS vacation? lol
That said, I always try and make my connection as tight as possible so rarely have any down time in the airport.
If we go somewhere in December I can get them both in I suppose. XMAS vacation? lol
#10
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 5,596
Urgh. That's that then.. ah well. Least I can use the lounge on my business travel.
That said, I always try and make my connection as tight as possible so rarely have any down time in the airport.
If we go somewhere in December I can get them both in I suppose. XMAS vacation? lol
That said, I always try and make my connection as tight as possible so rarely have any down time in the airport.
If we go somewhere in December I can get them both in I suppose. XMAS vacation? lol
#11
Original Poster
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: GLA
Programs: BAEC: BRONZE (Basic member: KLM, Emirates, United)
Posts: 134
I always said to myself the day I find I have a gold card is the day I quit my job. As it will mean I'm not spending enough time with my family. But sure I see the perks. ^
#13
Join Date: May 2014
Location: BRU
Programs: BA GGL, TK E (*G), ITA exec
Posts: 4,091
#14
Original Poster
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: GLA
Programs: BAEC: BRONZE (Basic member: KLM, Emirates, United)
Posts: 134
Quick further question. For my San Diego flights, I bought WT+ return (That's what my company policy is for long haul). Then a few days later got an email saying I had been upgraded (out and back) to CE for the Glasgow to London portions. Any idea why? It's good for tier points for sure but just wondering why they did that? Was it because I booked WT+ for the trip as a whole? not complaining at all just curious.
#15
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Northumberland (The big bit between Newcastle & Scotland).
Programs: BAEC & VS.
Posts: 224
Yes - pretty sure it is because you booked WT+ that your domestic flights are classed as CE.
I returned from San Diego the day after the domestic CE was introduced, and my domestic up to Newcastle had me in CE as a result of flying CW from SD - looks like it must be the same for WT+.
I returned from San Diego the day after the domestic CE was introduced, and my domestic up to Newcastle had me in CE as a result of flying CW from SD - looks like it must be the same for WT+.