BA American Express 2-4-1 Voucher Discussion
May 6, 2019, 3:27 am
#1501
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Edinburgh
Programs: BA Gold, FB Gold
Posts: 83
i can only suggest call and try again. i appreciate the explanation he gave was an attempt to explain the figure he was seeing, but it's completely rubbish. the other option is you can ask it gets sent for a manual calculation on the basis the figure is clearly wrong.
btw i just added some domestic connections on a 2-4-1 HKG booking about 2/3 weeks ago and extra TFC was Ł86 per person.
btw i just added some domestic connections on a 2-4-1 HKG booking about 2/3 weeks ago and extra TFC was Ł86 per person.
So it looks like we'll be buying a separate ticket and enjoying the arrivals lounge....
May 6, 2019, 3:32 am
#1502
Ambassador, British Airways; FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Leeds, UK
Programs: BA GGL/CCR, GfL, HH Diamond
Posts: 42,941
Firstly thank you very much for reporting back.
i don’t understand. If it was just a one way from HKG and not related to a 2-4-1 the TFC is what I quoted earlier. Any other figure is just made up rubbish.
the only thing I can think of is for 2-4-1 they are now recalculating TFC as a return so removing the benefit of taking advantage of low carrier surcharge from HKG - i.e. they are now taking measures to counter the trick which has been discussed on here ever since you could book two one ways and apply the voucher across both bookings.
i don’t understand. If it was just a one way from HKG and not related to a 2-4-1 the TFC is what I quoted earlier. Any other figure is just made up rubbish.
the only thing I can think of is for 2-4-1 they are now recalculating TFC as a return so removing the benefit of taking advantage of low carrier surcharge from HKG - i.e. they are now taking measures to counter the trick which has been discussed on here ever since you could book two one ways and apply the voucher across both bookings.
May 6, 2019, 5:27 am
#1503
Join Date: Jun 2003
Programs: BA, IHG, 5C
Posts: 4,413
If you do this search on ITA HKG-LON/EDI, you’ll get the zero YQ. But if you change the “Sales City” to LON you’ll get a YQ >Ł200.
So it appears that in response to the lifting of HKG’s YQ ban BA have left YQ at zero only for HKG-ticketed bookings. And that if you make a substantial enough change to your one way (adding a domestic) it gets reassessed with YQ.
That seems more likely than them targeting the 241 “trick”.
So it appears that in response to the lifting of HKG’s YQ ban BA have left YQ at zero only for HKG-ticketed bookings. And that if you make a substantial enough change to your one way (adding a domestic) it gets reassessed with YQ.
That seems more likely than them targeting the 241 “trick”.
May 6, 2019, 11:59 am
#1504
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Edinburgh
Programs: BA Gold, FB Gold
Posts: 83
If you do this search on ITA HKG-LON/EDI, you’ll get the zero YQ. But if you change the “Sales City” to LON you’ll get a YQ >Ł200.
So it appears that in response to the lifting of HKG’s YQ ban BA have left YQ at zero only for HKG-ticketed bookings. And that if you make a substantial enough change to your one way (adding a domestic) it gets reassessed with YQ.
That seems more likely than them targeting the 241 “trick”.
So it appears that in response to the lifting of HKG’s YQ ban BA have left YQ at zero only for HKG-ticketed bookings. And that if you make a substantial enough change to your one way (adding a domestic) it gets reassessed with YQ.
That seems more likely than them targeting the 241 “trick”.
I hesitate to ask, but wonder what would happen if I phoned HK to add the domestic :-)
May 6, 2019, 12:02 pm
#1505
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: GLA
Programs: BAEC Silver, Global Entry
Posts: 353
Hi,
I have two companion vouchers to use up so logged on this morning to try and book the first before it runs out. I've tried getting a quote for 2 x Adults to multiple North American locations and then a few of the exotic ones on my bucket list. All of them work out as close to no difference between a regular booking and a booking with my companion voucher.One example below:
I was quoted Ł745 for a return to Philly from London for 2 x Adults - that's using avios and the voucher.
A quick sanity check on the main BA page shows I can use 10,000 less avios, no companion voucher, and the total cost will be Ł765 - that's for exactly the same flights.
In effect my voucher is worth Ł20 (Not counting the 10,000 avios difference) - the best quote I could find to a destination would make the voucher worth Ł37.
The Ł200 annual fee for the AMEX, is no where near worth this and my spend on the card of Ł3-4K a month is generating avios but not astronomical amounts. Before I cancelled the card at the end of the period and tried another loyalty based one I thought I'd ask: What am I missing about the voucher that made it so recommended on other sites and threads?
Thanks for your help.
I have two companion vouchers to use up so logged on this morning to try and book the first before it runs out. I've tried getting a quote for 2 x Adults to multiple North American locations and then a few of the exotic ones on my bucket list. All of them work out as close to no difference between a regular booking and a booking with my companion voucher.One example below:
I was quoted Ł745 for a return to Philly from London for 2 x Adults - that's using avios and the voucher.
A quick sanity check on the main BA page shows I can use 10,000 less avios, no companion voucher, and the total cost will be Ł765 - that's for exactly the same flights.
In effect my voucher is worth Ł20 (Not counting the 10,000 avios difference) - the best quote I could find to a destination would make the voucher worth Ł37.
The Ł200 annual fee for the AMEX, is no where near worth this and my spend on the card of Ł3-4K a month is generating avios but not astronomical amounts. Before I cancelled the card at the end of the period and tried another loyalty based one I thought I'd ask: What am I missing about the voucher that made it so recommended on other sites and threads?
Thanks for your help.
May 6, 2019, 9:27 pm
#1506
Ambassador, British Airways; FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Leeds, UK
Programs: BA GGL/CCR, GfL, HH Diamond
Posts: 42,941
If you do this search on ITA HKG-LON/EDI, you’ll get the zero YQ. But if you change the “Sales City” to LON you’ll get a YQ >Ł200.
So it appears that in response to the lifting of HKG’s YQ ban BA have left YQ at zero only for HKG-ticketed bookings. And that if you make a substantial enough change to your one way (adding a domestic) it gets reassessed with YQ.
That seems more likely than them targeting the 241 “trick”.
So it appears that in response to the lifting of HKG’s YQ ban BA have left YQ at zero only for HKG-ticketed bookings. And that if you make a substantial enough change to your one way (adding a domestic) it gets reassessed with YQ.
That seems more likely than them targeting the 241 “trick”.
May 6, 2019, 10:52 pm
#1507
Join Date: Jun 2003
Programs: BA, IHG, 5C
Posts: 4,413
So is HKG-LHR sold (ticketed?) in LON, but according to ITA that would collects Ł200 YQ.
It’s strange and I don’t really know the ins and out of ticketing, but still seems most likely the reprocessing to add the domestic is triggering the addition.
Calling HKG instead is worth a hopeful go.
It’s strange and I don’t really know the ins and out of ticketing, but still seems most likely the reprocessing to add the domestic is triggering the addition.
Calling HKG instead is worth a hopeful go.
May 7, 2019, 2:54 am
#1508
Join Date: Dec 2018
Programs: BA Executive Club
Posts: 20
I have a cancellation question if anyone can help I have a 2-4-1 booking in roughly 30 days (my first first!), but my girlfriend has some visa issues to do with changing job that might result in her not being able to travel.
I understand that I can cancel a 2-4-1 booking on 24 hours' notice with a Ł100 per person fee, but I wanted to check, does this mean literally 24 hours (as in for a 15:00 flight, any time up to 15:00 the day before), or is it based on the day (e.g. for a Thursday flight, can cancel up to midnight on Tuesday or possibly Wednesday)?
I also was wondering if anyone knew, if I prebook the main meal or the Concorde Room spa appointment, does that then prevent me from cancelling the tickets later?
Thanks in advance!
I understand that I can cancel a 2-4-1 booking on 24 hours' notice with a Ł100 per person fee, but I wanted to check, does this mean literally 24 hours (as in for a 15:00 flight, any time up to 15:00 the day before), or is it based on the day (e.g. for a Thursday flight, can cancel up to midnight on Tuesday or possibly Wednesday)?
I also was wondering if anyone knew, if I prebook the main meal or the Concorde Room spa appointment, does that then prevent me from cancelling the tickets later?
Thanks in advance!
May 9, 2019, 7:48 am
#1509
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: London
Programs: KLM, BA Silver, Etihad
Posts: 918
Ive got a 2-4-1 booking in the bag CW out and F back.
There is no F availability currently on the outward journey. Is it a matter of checking periodically via ba.com to see of any availability comes back into play? I looked at expert flyer and I couldn't see an alert facility for such an occasion.
There is no F availability currently on the outward journey. Is it a matter of checking periodically via ba.com to see of any availability comes back into play? I looked at expert flyer and I couldn't see an alert facility for such an occasion.
May 9, 2019, 8:17 am
#1510
Ambassador, British Airways; FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Leeds, UK
Programs: BA GGL/CCR, GfL, HH Diamond
Posts: 42,941
I have a cancellation question if anyone can help I have a 2-4-1 booking in roughly 30 days (my first first!), but my girlfriend has some visa issues to do with changing job that might result in her not being able to travel.
I understand that I can cancel a 2-4-1 booking on 24 hours' notice with a Ł100 per person fee, but I wanted to check, does this mean literally 24 hours (as in for a 15:00 flight, any time up to 15:00 the day before), or is it based on the day (e.g. for a Thursday flight, can cancel up to midnight on Tuesday or possibly Wednesday)?
I also was wondering if anyone knew, if I prebook the main meal or the Concorde Room spa appointment, does that then prevent me from cancelling the tickets later?
Thanks in advance!
I understand that I can cancel a 2-4-1 booking on 24 hours' notice with a Ł100 per person fee, but I wanted to check, does this mean literally 24 hours (as in for a 15:00 flight, any time up to 15:00 the day before), or is it based on the day (e.g. for a Thursday flight, can cancel up to midnight on Tuesday or possibly Wednesday)?
I also was wondering if anyone knew, if I prebook the main meal or the Concorde Room spa appointment, does that then prevent me from cancelling the tickets later?
Thanks in advance!
May 9, 2019, 8:19 am
#1511
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Lincolnshire, UK
Programs: BA GGL - maybe only briefly!
Posts: 1,378
I have a cancellation question if anyone can help I have a 2-4-1 booking in roughly 30 days (my first first!), but my girlfriend has some visa issues to do with changing job that might result in her not being able to travel.
I understand that I can cancel a 2-4-1 booking on 24 hours' notice with a Ł100 per person fee, but I wanted to check, does this mean literally 24 hours (as in for a 15:00 flight, any time up to 15:00 the day before), or is it based on the day (e.g. for a Thursday flight, can cancel up to midnight on Tuesday or possibly Wednesday)?
I also was wondering if anyone knew, if I prebook the main meal or the Concorde Room spa appointment, does that then prevent me from cancelling the tickets later?
Thanks in advance!
I understand that I can cancel a 2-4-1 booking on 24 hours' notice with a Ł100 per person fee, but I wanted to check, does this mean literally 24 hours (as in for a 15:00 flight, any time up to 15:00 the day before), or is it based on the day (e.g. for a Thursday flight, can cancel up to midnight on Tuesday or possibly Wednesday)?
I also was wondering if anyone knew, if I prebook the main meal or the Concorde Room spa appointment, does that then prevent me from cancelling the tickets later?
Thanks in advance!
May 9, 2019, 8:22 am
#1512
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Lincolnshire, UK
Programs: BA GGL - maybe only briefly!
Posts: 1,378
Ive got a 2-4-1 booking in the bag CW out and F back.
There is no F availability currently on the outward journey. Is it a matter of checking periodically via ba.com to see of any availability comes back into play? I looked at expert flyer and I couldn't see an alert facility for such an occasion.
There is no F availability currently on the outward journey. Is it a matter of checking periodically via ba.com to see of any availability comes back into play? I looked at expert flyer and I couldn't see an alert facility for such an occasion.
May 9, 2019, 8:23 am
#1514
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: London
Programs: BAEC Gold, Accor Live Limitless Gold, Hilton Honours Gold, Avis Preferred Plus
Posts: 1,806
Ive got a 2-4-1 booking in the bag CW out and F back.
There is no F availability currently on the outward journey. Is it a matter of checking periodically via ba.com to see of any availability comes back into play? I looked at expert flyer and I couldn't see an alert facility for such an occasion.
There is no F availability currently on the outward journey. Is it a matter of checking periodically via ba.com to see of any availability comes back into play? I looked at expert flyer and I couldn't see an alert facility for such an occasion.
May 9, 2019, 11:50 am
#1515
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: London
Programs: KLM, BA Silver, Etihad
Posts: 918