BA American Express 2-4-1 Voucher Discussion
May 5, 2017, 3:17 am
#76
Join Date: Jan 2007
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Quick question - does it need to be an AMEX issued card, or is a bank issued AMEX OK?
Q: Does cancelling my BA American Express card mean I will lose the voucher? Does downgrading my BA American Express Premium Plus card to the Classic card mean I will lose my voucher?
A: No. Contrary to what American Express will tell you, you will keep the voucher if you cancel the card entirely, and similarly your voucher will retain its two year validity if you downgrade from the Premium Plus card to the Classic Card. Remember though that you will need to pay the taxes and fees on an American Express card, so it may be worth asking to downgrade the Premium Plus to the Classic card for this purpose if you don’t hold another Amex.
A: No. Contrary to what American Express will tell you, you will keep the voucher if you cancel the card entirely, and similarly your voucher will retain its two year validity if you downgrade from the Premium Plus card to the Classic Card. Remember though that you will need to pay the taxes and fees on an American Express card, so it may be worth asking to downgrade the Premium Plus to the Classic card for this purpose if you don’t hold another Amex.
May 5, 2017, 3:24 am
#77
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EDIT: Have just seen @ScubaRoo comments above that suggest even an MBNA-type Amex would be OK. I can't say I have tried this though...
May 5, 2017, 3:33 am
#78
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I think, based on previous comments, it's an American Express card full stop. Would be good to get firm confirmation from someone who has actually used an MBNA/Lloyds issued Amex though.
May 5, 2017, 3:43 am
#79
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Many thanks for taking the time to put this together by the way @obduro ^
May 5, 2017, 6:27 am
#81
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Not sure if it's been mentioned upthread but the very useful FAQs refer to seats being released at midnight.
Might be worth clarifying that it's midnight GMT which means that at the moment it's actually 1am for folks in the UK.
Might be worth clarifying that it's midnight GMT which means that at the moment it's actually 1am for folks in the UK.
May 5, 2017, 11:44 am
#82
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: United Kingdom
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AX 241 Open Jaw redemption?
We're looking to do LHR BA NRT//ICN BA LHR early next year with Miles and an Amex 241 voucher. Where and how is the best way to book this?
May 5, 2017, 11:49 am
#83
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Have a look at the guide http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...iscussion.html
You will need to call to book that one.
You will need to call to book that one.
May 5, 2017, 11:56 am
#84
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 973
We did this same itin two years ago. As KARFA said the open jaw redemption for Amex 241 has to be done by calling BA. Check for availability on the first leg (outbound), call BA and book it. Then check again for availability on the second leg (inbound) and ask BA to add it to the first - so everything is on one PNR. However, if your dates are available now, then just tell BA which flights you are after and they can book everything in one go for you.
May 5, 2017, 2:10 pm
#85
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All of the information you need is in the thread KARFA linked to, which is also in the forum dashboard.
You have already missed the boat with booking the standard 2 J seats that are released at T-355 so you will need to monitor availability and call to book as and when they come up.
You have already missed the boat with booking the standard 2 J seats that are released at T-355 so you will need to monitor availability and call to book as and when they come up.
May 5, 2017, 5:52 pm
#86
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A really wonderful thread- thanks so much for all of the helpful info.
I have successfully booked 2 of these already but for some reason
it seems more difficult this time.
The dates I would like re coming up soon so I tried
a few "practice bookings"
My questions:
1. I understood from the Wiki that we could
snag our outbound and then call in for our inbound later-
but the mobile app at least, will only find seats when I book as roundtrip If I select my certificate and choose 1 way I get a red alert saying they don't fly that route (I've tried several different cities to London and get the same message). Any idea why? Will I be able to first book just my outbound?
2. I realized today that although I believed I had sufficient Avios in our account for RT First Class West Coast to LHR that I had priced at off peak. Just in case I want to transfer more in- can you confirm how many more I would need?
Thank you !!!
I have successfully booked 2 of these already but for some reason
it seems more difficult this time.
The dates I would like re coming up soon so I tried
a few "practice bookings"
My questions:
1. I understood from the Wiki that we could
snag our outbound and then call in for our inbound later-
but the mobile app at least, will only find seats when I book as roundtrip If I select my certificate and choose 1 way I get a red alert saying they don't fly that route (I've tried several different cities to London and get the same message). Any idea why? Will I be able to first book just my outbound?
2. I realized today that although I believed I had sufficient Avios in our account for RT First Class West Coast to LHR that I had priced at off peak. Just in case I want to transfer more in- can you confirm how many more I would need?
Thank you !!!
Last edited by damon88; May 5, 2017 at 6:10 pm
May 6, 2017, 4:00 am
#87
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A really wonderful thread- thanks so much for all of the helpful info.
I have successfully booked 2 of these already but for some reason
it seems more difficult this time.
The dates I would like re coming up soon so I tried
a few "practice bookings"
My questions:
1. I understood from the Wiki that we could
snag our outbound and then call in for our inbound later-
but the mobile app at least, will only find seats when I book as roundtrip If I select my certificate and choose 1 way I get a red alert saying they don't fly that route (I've tried several different cities to London and get the same message). Any idea why? Will I be able to first book just my outbound?
2. I realized today that although I believed I had sufficient Avios in our account for RT First Class West Coast to LHR that I had priced at off peak. Just in case I want to transfer more in- can you confirm how many more I would need?
Thank you !!!
I have successfully booked 2 of these already but for some reason
it seems more difficult this time.
The dates I would like re coming up soon so I tried
a few "practice bookings"
My questions:
1. I understood from the Wiki that we could
snag our outbound and then call in for our inbound later-
but the mobile app at least, will only find seats when I book as roundtrip If I select my certificate and choose 1 way I get a red alert saying they don't fly that route (I've tried several different cities to London and get the same message). Any idea why? Will I be able to first book just my outbound?
2. I realized today that although I believed I had sufficient Avios in our account for RT First Class West Coast to LHR that I had priced at off peak. Just in case I want to transfer more in- can you confirm how many more I would need?
Thank you !!!
2. You'll need to specify what route you are looking to book as it may differ. Generally off-peak it's 85,000 Avios per person, per flight (so a total of 170,000 Avios return per pax).
May 6, 2017, 8:43 pm
#88
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Thank you for replying- I reinstalled the app and it worked
I wanted SAN-LHR but ended up booking Houston instead because the SAN seats seem much harder to get this time. This will be our third 2-4-1 and it seemed much easier to secure FC seats in the past. The difference may have been flying more off season.
Inbound looks more attainable so I will keep my fingers crossed.
It was 85000 today and we will also need LHR-VIE and GVA-SAN so it looks as if I will need
145000 more.
I wanted SAN-LHR but ended up booking Houston instead because the SAN seats seem much harder to get this time. This will be our third 2-4-1 and it seemed much easier to secure FC seats in the past. The difference may have been flying more off season.
Inbound looks more attainable so I will keep my fingers crossed.
It was 85000 today and we will also need LHR-VIE and GVA-SAN so it looks as if I will need
145000 more.
May 7, 2017, 4:37 am
#89
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Northern Ireland
Posts: 12
first post Is this ok for a 2 4 1
I have been reading through all the posts and wiki's and think this is possible but would like to check. I have booked a 2 4 1 from BHD to Sydney Aust. (one way) for next April. The London to Sydney stops in Singapore. My question is will I be able to book a one way from Singapore back to Belfast using the same 2 4 1 when suitable flights become available.
thanks in advance
thanks in advance
May 7, 2017, 5:00 am
#90
Formerly known as linzbh
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I have been reading through all the posts and wiki's and think this is possible but would like to check. I have booked a 2 4 1 from BHD to Sydney Aust. (one way) for next April. The London to Sydney stops in Singapore. My question is will I be able to book a one way from Singapore back to Belfast using the same 2 4 1 when suitable flights become available.
thanks in advance
thanks in advance
I did book this all at once though, but don't see it being a problem booking the return back calling up later and stating you wish to now add an open jaw return to your 2-4-1 booking
