BA American Express 2-4-1 Voucher Discussion
#1321
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Leeds, UK
Programs: Mucci, BAEC GGL/CCR, Hilton Diamond, IHG Diamond Ambassador, Stena Gold
Posts: 1,078
Does the first leg of an open jaw have to be longer than the second?
planning LBA-LHR-SIN//SYD-SIN-LHR-LBA- would that be allowed or would we have to go to SYD first?
Thanks
planning LBA-LHR-SIN//SYD-SIN-LHR-LBA- would that be allowed or would we have to go to SYD first?
Thanks
#1323
Join Date: Jan 2005
Programs: BA Gold, AA Lifetime Gold 1.8mm, IC Spire Ambassador, Hilton Diamond, SPG Gold et al
Posts: 4,350
I'm looking to book an itinerary along the lines of domestic-LHR-MIA-CUN. Probably with a stopover in MIA in at least one direction. I know i can't use the 2-4-1 on the MIA-CUN legs, but can i book the whole itinerary on one PNR and still get the voucher savings on the longhaul? I'm assuming i will need to phone, will they waive the phone booking fee in this instance?
#1324
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: RTW
Posts: 675
Gastocnemius:
Yes, you should be OK with the open jaw as the "open" distance between SIN and SYD is less than LHR/SIN or SYD/LHR. Obviously you'll need to phone.
Yes, you should be OK with the open jaw as the "open" distance between SIN and SYD is less than LHR/SIN or SYD/LHR. Obviously you'll need to phone.
#1325
Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 21
Open jaw tickets
MAN-LHR-CPT. DUR-LHR-MAN
Hi all,
I am planning the above trip, o/bound in first, i/bound in club world using a companion voucher. As this is an open jaw ticket, will I need to call BA twice to secure these seats (if available) @-355 or can I book the o/bound tickets on-line then just call to add the DUR-LHR-MAN? Does one companion voucher cover this or do you need two? Sorry if this has already been answered elsewhere.
Thanks :-)
Hi all,
I am planning the above trip, o/bound in first, i/bound in club world using a companion voucher. As this is an open jaw ticket, will I need to call BA twice to secure these seats (if available) @-355 or can I book the o/bound tickets on-line then just call to add the DUR-LHR-MAN? Does one companion voucher cover this or do you need two? Sorry if this has already been answered elsewhere.
Thanks :-)
#1326
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: UK
Programs: BA Nada, HH Diamond, IHG Spire AMB, Marriott Plat, Accor Gold
Posts: 510
Open jaw can be fun, but as stated above it can't be used for connecting flights and build in a good bit of flex. For example I did LHR-KUL, 2 days sightseeing, KUL-DPS for 8 days on the beach, DPS-SIN for 3 days of sightseeing then SIN-LHR. The first and last flights booked using the 241. Also have planned, LHR-BNA and ATL-LHR with a week in Florida in-between using Southwest for the internal flights and am working on LHR-ICN and HKG-LHR with 10 days in Vietnam in the middle, its 2 city breaks that sandwich some down time.
#1327
Join Date: Jun 2003
Programs: BA, IHG, 5C
Posts: 4,412
MAN-LHR-CPT. DUR-LHR-MAN
Hi all,
I am planning the above trip, o/bound in first, i/bound in club world using a companion voucher. As this is an open jaw ticket, will I need to call BA twice to secure these seats (if available) @-355 or can I book the o/bound tickets on-line then just call to add the DUR-LHR-MAN? Does one companion voucher cover this or do you need two? Sorry if this has already been answered elsewhere.
Thanks :-)
Hi all,
I am planning the above trip, o/bound in first, i/bound in club world using a companion voucher. As this is an open jaw ticket, will I need to call BA twice to secure these seats (if available) @-355 or can I book the o/bound tickets on-line then just call to add the DUR-LHR-MAN? Does one companion voucher cover this or do you need two? Sorry if this has already been answered elsewhere.
Thanks :-)
One voucher will do your whole trip, and actually the open-jaw aspect makes no practical difference here.
#1328
Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 21
You can book the outbound online as a one-way with the voucher. You only need to speak to BA about the inbound. You can either ring at midnight (or 1am BST) and have it added to the outbound booking, or you can book it online standalone (for full 2x avios, if you have them) then call them to have it "vouchered" to get half the avios back.
One voucher will do your whole trip, and actually the open-jaw aspect makes no practical difference here.
One voucher will do your whole trip, and actually the open-jaw aspect makes no practical difference here.
#1329
Join Date: Apr 2008
Programs: BA Silver
Posts: 151
You can book the outbound online as a one-way with the voucher. You only need to speak to BA about the inbound. You can either ring at midnight (or 1am BST) and have it added to the outbound booking, or you can book it online standalone (for full 2x avios, if you have them) then call them to have it "vouchered" to get half the avios back.
One voucher will do your whole trip, and actually the open-jaw aspect makes no practical difference here.
One voucher will do your whole trip, and actually the open-jaw aspect makes no practical difference here.
#1330
Join Date: Jun 2003
Programs: BA, IHG, 5C
Posts: 4,412
I'm surprised to see CR has a lower carrier surcharge: 128e/w vs 174 ex-UK. I thought all the Americas were higher. Normally that would mean you could save 46pp booking two one ways. However ba.com prices up two oneways at 62 higher, including CR transport tax on the inbound at 109 when booked oneway. The tax is a 5% levy, and I think you should be paying 5% of zero, but they appear to be charging 5% of a notional amount. I think we've seen this before - India GST I believe, but right now I can't get the website to price ex-DEL. You might be able to have it knocked off, but I don't know the rules for sure or the hassle involved.
So all in all I think I'd take the easier option and book the inbound on the same booking, by phone.
#1331
Join Date: Apr 2008
Programs: BA Silver
Posts: 151
I did a quick peak/off-peak comparison in J and the saving is around 37 pp booking two one ways. As there are only 2 flights per week I may go for the separate/then joined up bookings option
#1332
Join Date: Jun 2003
Programs: BA, IHG, 5C
Posts: 4,412
Did you go past the initial quote on the inbound? It shows me 169 initially, but 268 on the next page.
#1334
Join Date: Jun 2003
Programs: BA, IHG, 5C
Posts: 4,412
Because, I think, of the way BA is bodging the CR transport tax. If you do prefer to book oneways, then perhaps it is worth the risk/hassle of having to try and reclaim it from BA.
Here is a thread on the equivalent India situation: Avios booking GST tax from India
However I don't of course know the CR rules: they could insist that some level of tax is paid on free tickets. FWIW, aa.com does not charge the tax on a BA reward (fees 166).
Here is a thread on the equivalent India situation: Avios booking GST tax from India
However I don't of course know the CR rules: they could insist that some level of tax is paid on free tickets. FWIW, aa.com does not charge the tax on a BA reward (fees 166).
#1335
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Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: London
Programs: Mucci. Nothing else matters.
Posts: 38,642
Using ITA to price the TFC for CW bookings to SJO, I got the following totals:-
LGW-SJO-LGW: 579.52
LGW-SJO: 373.62
SJO-LGW: 269.10
(LGW-SJO + SJO-LGW: 642.72)
The ITA quote for TFC is usually accurate to the penny, but as always you may want to try taking the Avios booking quote to a firm price quote to check these numbers.