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FT BA Flight Simulator Outing to Heathrow [UK] – 20/27 October 2017

FT BA Flight Simulator Outing to Heathrow [UK] – 20/27 October 2017

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It’s back again! Simulator choice this year is 747 and 777. One of the 747 simulators is actually going this year so you may want to try them before they all go. No one will be forced to fly on something they don’t want though, and I would imagine the 747 is the one most want (and should) try.

Previous Trip Reports for the Simulators
Cost
Each simulator holds 4 people and one instructor. The total cost of a 4 hour session in one simulator would be £1,700 (this is cheaper than BA offer to the public), and this would give around 55-60 minutes of time per person on the controls – although we would rotate during the session so this would be split in to a number of smaller time chunks. Please note that the prices on the BAFT website are quoted as £1,700 excluding VAT per simulator, but we have been offered them for a price of £1,700, including VAT.

As we are charged per simulator generally a group in multiples of 4 would be ideal, with cost per person being £425. If we only had three people for example we would still have to pay £1,700 so the cost per person increases to £567 per person, although we would each get a bit more time at the controls. If we end up with 5 though it may well make sense to go to 1 simulator to reduce the cost and have say 45/50 minutes each per simulator.

Basically once we confirm numbers we can make a choice if we don't have a multiple of 4, although a multiple of 4 would be ideal.

Payment
Once the date is confirmed and booked each person would pay their share directly to BAFT, this is likely to be around September or early October when payment is due. It would be non-refundable so if you don't show you would unfortunately not get your money back, but this stops those that do show all of a sudden having to cover any no-show's share. If you do commit and pay and find in a few months you can't make it one option may be to see if a friend, work colleague, or other FT'er can come and take your place and they can pay you directly for your share which you have already paid to BAFT.

I will ensure that we are absolutely not going to be in a situation on the day where I am asking those that have come along to dip in to their pockets to cover any additional cost. Sorry this seems a bit harsh, but I don't think anyone wants to turn up finding instead of £3,400 divided by 8 it is suddenly only divided by 6.

Dates & Times
Unfortunately weekends are not possible for a group booking, so the options are weekdays. My own preference would be a Friday and probably 1900-2300 as (coming from the regions) I would only need to take half a day off work and wouldn't have to worry about getting back for working the next day. For those in London or around the South East you could come in the evening and there would be no need for any holiday being used.

If we booked for a date more than 3 months in advance we can hopefully get our choice of date & time. I have already confirmed with BA that the dates offered below are available.

Attendees and Groups
See post 127 for the group lists - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28614931-post127.html

Standby list -

Location
The simulators are all now at the new Engineering Base at Heathrow near Hatton Cross tube station - they used to be at Cranebank which is where we went in 2014, but they were moved last year and our 2015 and 2016 visits were at the new facility. More details here.

As this is part of a secure area you would need a passport or other photo ID to enter.

Flights

20.10.17

BA835 DUB-LHR (ETA: 1425) EI147, datschi
BA1343 LBA-LHR (ETA: 1535) KARFA,
BA753 BSL-LHR (ETA: 1240) florens

27.10.17

BA1343 LBA-LHR (ETA: 1535) KARFA, S_W_S

Hotels

20.10.17

Hilton Garden Inn Heathrow at Hatton Cross: florens, KARFA, flatlander
Sheraton Heathrow: headinclouds

27.10.17

Hilton Garden Inn Heathrow at Hatton Cross: KARFA, S_W_S

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Old Mar 31, 17, 2:51 pm
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I am away the weekend of the 27th so available for the 20th only. Happy to try either simulator. Thanks for organising!
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Old Apr 1, 17, 12:40 am
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Brilliant event organised last year KARFA so would be great to do it again.

Either date is ok for me - did the 777 last year so would like to try the 747 this time but happy with the 777 if thats the way it works out.
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Old Apr 1, 17, 5:59 am
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Originally Posted by EI147 View Post
I am away the weekend of the 27th so available for the 20th only. Happy to try either simulator. Thanks for organising!
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Brilliant event organised last year KARFA so would be great to do it again.

Either date is ok for me - did the 777 last year so would like to try the 747 this time but happy with the 777 if thats the way it works out.
Thanks both, have added you on.
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Old Apr 1, 17, 6:26 am
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I would like to do this but I'm not sure it looks like you've go the number now? maybe as standby for the 20th? I don't mind either 777 or 747.
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Old Apr 1, 17, 6:41 am
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I would like to do this but I'm not sure it looks like you've go the number now? maybe as standby for the 20th? I don't mind either 777 or 747.
Hi linzbh. No plenty of space. The lists are more availability for either/both dates, so a lot of people are available and noted for both dates but will only do one. What I will do at some point is then work out whether we will do one or two dates, and then shuffle people in to one of the dates. So basically it is 24 people in total spread over two dates potentially.

I guess 20th is the only date you can do of the two? I will add you on the list for 20th.
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Old Apr 1, 17, 9:00 am
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Hi linzbh. No plenty of space. The lists are more availability for either/both dates, so a lot of people are available and noted for both dates but will only do one. What I will do at some point is then work out whether we will do one or two dates, and then shuffle people in to one of the dates. So basically it is 24 people in total spread over two dates potentially.

I guess 20th is the only date you can do of the two? I will add you on the list for 20th.

Great thanks! I can do either day so you can shuffle me for either cheers!
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Old Apr 2, 17, 3:23 am
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Hi KARFA,

Many thanks for the organisation. Although I am new to FT, I have always been passionate about flying. Please sign me up for both days and I would really love to have a go on my all time favourite 747 girl. Many thanks
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Old Apr 2, 17, 7:56 am
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Originally Posted by linzbh View Post
Great thanks! I can do either day so you can shuffle me for either cheers!
Excellent. I have added you as available for either date.

Originally Posted by cl65amg View Post
Hi KARFA,

Many thanks for the organisation. Although I am new to FT, I have always been passionate about flying. Please sign me up for both days and I would really love to have a go on my all time favourite 747 girl. Many thanks
Hi cl65amg. You would be more than welcome. I have added you as available for either date. The 747 is definitely the one to go for.
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Old Apr 2, 17, 8:03 am
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Sign me up again please!

Either date is good for me.

Having tried the 777 electric wonder jet I would like to back on the 747 if possible.
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Old Apr 2, 17, 8:59 am
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Sign me up again please!

Either date is good for me.

Having tried the 777 electric wonder jet I would like to back on the 747 if possible.
Hi flatlander. Have added you.
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Old Apr 3, 17, 2:51 am
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Is it possible to attend as a non-UK citizen/resident?
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Old Apr 3, 17, 4:19 am
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Is it possible to attend as a non-UK citizen/resident?
Yes. I have had a Canadian and an Irish citizen come along in previous years.
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Old Apr 6, 17, 10:03 am
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Thanks, added you Kungpo and Pilot37.
Either date works for me this year. I plan to actually make it this year as I could not last year. What is the max number of participants this year? I want to ask a friend to see if he wants to give it a go.
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Old Apr 6, 17, 11:25 am
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Either date works for me this year. I plan to actually make it this year as I could not last year. What is the max number of participants this year? I want to ask a friend to see if he wants to give it a go.
Hi. I would say about 12 per evening. As it looks like we will have over 12 in total it would be two evenings of 12 max - i .e. 24 in total. Atm it looks like there are 14 in total including yourself.
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Old Apr 6, 17, 11:44 am
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Count me in on the 20th - 777 please, but 747 is fine, too.
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