Why keep the Concorde Room anymore?
Mar 28, 2017, 3:18 pm
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Mar 28, 2017, 3:24 pm
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All a matter of perspective and personal preference, but really other than at absolute peak times T5 GF is a very good lounge in my experience, and exclusivity aside not much of a downgrade from the CCR. Wine, champagne and spirits are always good-to-excellent. Food is now decent (although could of course be improved). I'm not sure I've ever not been able to find a seat, but maybe I've been lucky in that regard.
If they could sort out the temperature (always too hot) and install nicer toilets (the plastic cabins are no better than you'll find in a Travelodge room) it would be hard to fault imo.
If they could sort out the temperature (always too hot) and install nicer toilets (the plastic cabins are no better than you'll find in a Travelodge room) it would be hard to fault imo.
Mar 28, 2017, 3:57 pm
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I flew through T5 this morning with 2 friends. Neither had status, so I asked the CCR guardian if she would allow me in with 2 guests. Correctly, she said NO, but did let me walk through to get to GF.
Once we had sat down, one of my friends (who I'd taken into the CCR 3 weeks before) asked the difference.
I said table-service and fewer people - but those were the only immediate and obvious benefits.
However, GF was perfectly fine. I quite liked being back.
With the upcoming removal of the CCR door, I found myself contemplating whether I would necessarily always head over to the CCR once the passage into GF is completed.
Time will tell I suppose.
M
P.S. Can we refrain from QR comparisons and DOH discussion! We've had enough of those to last a lifetime, and they just end in circles!
Once we had sat down, one of my friends (who I'd taken into the CCR 3 weeks before) asked the difference.
I said table-service and fewer people - but those were the only immediate and obvious benefits.
However, GF was perfectly fine. I quite liked being back.
With the upcoming removal of the CCR door, I found myself contemplating whether I would necessarily always head over to the CCR once the passage into GF is completed.
Time will tell I suppose.
M
P.S. Can we refrain from QR comparisons and DOH discussion! We've had enough of those to last a lifetime, and they just end in circles!
Mar 28, 2017, 8:29 pm
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The issue I have with the CCR is that at certain times of the day, there are families that let their little kids loose and you have to be careful not to trip over them. I have rarely seen kinds running around freely at the GF lounge, so I am not sure why they allow it in the CCR.
Mar 28, 2017, 9:02 pm
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Really? Just wondering. It is a valid point...
For QR J
Food is very good. Though a bit arabic meze based. But I did find it better than BA F.
Seat has aisle access (across the board).
Pyjamas
Slippers (think maybe only A380)
Probably a bigger IFE screen than BA F.
Service is very attentive (in both my champagne glass wasn't empty unless I asked it to stop being poured).
And the bar on the A380 was spectacular. Far less of a gimic than VS's bar.
Maybe I had a good set of flights (FRA-DOH-HKG (AKL on CX/QS to) SYD-DOH-FRA, but what I found different was the quality of the champagne. And lack of a CCR like lounge at home base, but to be fair it's J vs F. Was I just lucky?
Only flown BA F twice eastbound from West Coast US, and once westbound.
I get it when people compare AA J on 777W to BA F. It's just a decent seat.
But of course, not all people want to hop via the gulf...
(Quick edit to append) Ah yes, better than BA F. Ah I was reading is as near equivalent....
For QR J
Food is very good. Though a bit arabic meze based. But I did find it better than BA F.
Seat has aisle access (across the board).
Pyjamas
Slippers (think maybe only A380)
Probably a bigger IFE screen than BA F.
Service is very attentive (in both my champagne glass wasn't empty unless I asked it to stop being poured).
And the bar on the A380 was spectacular. Far less of a gimic than VS's bar.
Maybe I had a good set of flights (FRA-DOH-HKG (AKL on CX/QS to) SYD-DOH-FRA, but what I found different was the quality of the champagne. And lack of a CCR like lounge at home base, but to be fair it's J vs F. Was I just lucky?
Only flown BA F twice eastbound from West Coast US, and once westbound.
I get it when people compare AA J on 777W to BA F. It's just a decent seat.
But of course, not all people want to hop via the gulf...
(Quick edit to append) Ah yes, better than BA F. Ah I was reading is as near equivalent....
Mar 28, 2017, 9:06 pm
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Having the CCR keeps the riff raff out of GF
But seriously I'm glad it works for some. Personally I always go to GF even when flying F. I prefer self serve and I find the CCR really stuffy unless out on the terrace so I might as well be in GF.
But seriously I'm glad it works for some. Personally I always go to GF even when flying F. I prefer self serve and I find the CCR really stuffy unless out on the terrace so I might as well be in GF.
Mar 28, 2017, 9:19 pm
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Interestingly, when I view this thread... it is full of targeted advertising for "Qatar's Q suite, First in business" A lot to to be said for a product that keeps improving/getting better, vs. one that's slowing being enhanced downwards. There's a psychological aspect, you book a flight or get on a plane thinking what new will they have instead of what nasty surprises will there be because of the latest cuts.
To answer the question, to drip feed enough perks to keep people buying up to F or keep them coming back once they hit gold.
To answer the question, to drip feed enough perks to keep people buying up to F or keep them coming back once they hit gold.
Mar 28, 2017, 9:57 pm
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But what's the business case except for the vague notion of prestige (Sr Cruz doesn't seem to like non numeric notions)? Of course it's
aspirational. Everyone here would queue up for anything if they were told only the most exclusive flyers could have access regardless of what the heck it is!
I've been in a few times and wasn't impressed much. I'm in GF every week as I'm cursed to shorthaul most often. The free meal is nice but nothing I'd pay more than 30 quid for on the high street.
aspirational. Everyone here would queue up for anything if they were told only the most exclusive flyers could have access regardless of what the heck it is!
I've been in a few times and wasn't impressed much. I'm in GF every week as I'm cursed to shorthaul most often. The free meal is nice but nothing I'd pay more than 30 quid for on the high street.
Mar 28, 2017, 10:09 pm
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I've only been into the CCR a few times, but the main thing I appreciated was the quiet. I sat on the terrace and quite enjoyed having a bit of space and calm. The rest of the terminal is so busy it's nice to have a quiet space to relax in.
I did have a meal and while the potions were not huge, the food was well prepared and I enjoyed it. It sure beats being in Y and trying to find a seat somewhere by a gate.
I did have a meal and while the potions were not huge, the food was well prepared and I enjoyed it. It sure beats being in Y and trying to find a seat somewhere by a gate.
Mar 28, 2017, 10:22 pm
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The issue I have with the CCR is that at certain times of the day, there are families that let their little kids loose and you have to be careful not to trip over them. I have rarely seen kinds running around freely at the GF lounge, so I am not sure why they allow it in the CCR.
Mar 28, 2017, 10:31 pm
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Mar 28, 2017, 10:33 pm
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I think the best part of the CCR is the terrace. I enjoy sitting there reading my Kindle before a flight.
In terms of why to keep it..... I'm a strong advocate for First Class Lounges ONLY for passengers travelling in First Class, or CIP's.
Passengers travelling on a 14 sector cheap airfare with other OW carriers to attain status probably should be separated from actual premium passengers. The CCR helps with this.
OT, but I'd love to see BA move to a revenue based FF program to keep their lounges less cluttered.
In terms of why to keep it..... I'm a strong advocate for First Class Lounges ONLY for passengers travelling in First Class, or CIP's.
Passengers travelling on a 14 sector cheap airfare with other OW carriers to attain status probably should be separated from actual premium passengers. The CCR helps with this.
OT, but I'd love to see BA move to a revenue based FF program to keep their lounges less cluttered.
Mar 28, 2017, 10:41 pm
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Folks, we are seeing some considerable thread drift here in many different directions. The OP wanted to discuss the business case for retaining the CCR, which in no way includes comparison with QR aircraft.
Let's come back on topic, please.
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Let's come back on topic, please.
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