Apr 16, 2017, 1:12 pm
Last edit by: corporate-wage-slave
Club Europe Catering Guide 2017.
This thread outlines the new arrangements for Club Europe catering, introduced on Sunday 26 March 2017 and due to end on Tuesday 11 September 2018, based on 3 zones. A new Club Europe catering product is due to be launch on Wednesday 12 September 2018, and this is based on 4 bands. The main information piece - in terms of timings and the distance zones for the meals can be found in post 1. The following cross references the photos below against the matrix of options. In addition to the photos, some FTers have written extensively on their experiences so there is more to this thread than the pictures. Also note that there was an increase in food offered on some combinations shortly after the start-up, so the more recent photos may be the best place to start.The previous shorthaul catering guide, now locked but which had the previous 4 band system, is to be found here.
Numbers relate to the post number. Vegetarian means the alternative option provided as standard rather than the pre-ordered versions - which are VLML (Lacto-ovo), AVML (Asia) and VGML (Vegan) . There are differences between the offering in/out of LHR, LGW, LCY+STN. Last update: 833
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Note posts before 1-832 are typically the April 2017 menu. 833 and above is from the menu for May 2017.
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Chef's Chat sheets for:
CE LHR Summer 2017 - Rotation A
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28338151-post954.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28339641-post958.html
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Short Band (UK, France, Ireland, BeNeLux, Germany)
Breakfast: 279, 570 (vegetarian), 629, 674, 821 (Express breakfast for MAN and LBA), 1343 (Vegan), 2285 (Express for LBA and MAN), 2445
Brunch: 180, 289, 469, 563, 685, 716, 2625 (AVML)
Lunch: 207, 545 (diabetic), 644 (first photo), 680 (VLML), 802, 928, 1322 (Kosher), 2284
Afternoon tea: 339, 404 (vegetarian), 480, 600 (VLML), 710 (including low lactose), 800, 882 (gluten free), 1281, 1322 (Kosher), 1673, 2679 (Kosher), 2792
Dinner: 563, 630 (VGML), 669 (Kosher Passover), 771 (VGML LCY) 799, 819 (AVML), 833 (May 2017 menu), 1283, 1287, 1674, 2446, 2616 (Kosher), 2793
Comments on difference between AVML and VLML here.
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Medium Band (e.g. Madrid, Nice, Prague, Copenhagen)
Breakfast: 645 (vegetarian), 724 (vegetarian), 1003
Brunch: 199 (VLML), 600 (VLML), 659 (Kosher Passover)
Lunch: 239 (child), 251, 425, 641, 733
Afternoon tea: 332 (also includes vegetarian), 426 (GFML), 813 (Muslim)
Dinner: 456, 551 (also includes VLML), 666, 1004,
1278
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Long Band (e.g. Lisbon, Rome, Warsaw, Stockholm).
Breakfast: 195 (vegetarian)
Rest of the day: 306 (LFML), 345, 427, 443, 468, 597, 676, 687, 695, 783 (VLML)
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NOT MAINTAINED AND OUT OF DATE: The complete Short Haul meal structure for the longer flights as of October 2017 is:
LHR
Meal 1: Chicken / red pepper risotto
Meal 2: Beef cheek
Meal 3: Chicken supreme / gnocchi
Meal 4: Miso glazed cod
Meal 5: Chicken khao soi
Meal 6: Hot smoked salmon linguine
LGW
Meal 1: Thyme roasted chicken
Meal 2: Spicy corn and paneer masala
Meal 3: Thai Penang chicken curry
Meal 4: Roasted red pepper tortellini
Meal 5: Beef and mushroom caserole
Meal 6: Tomato and four cheeses tortellini
Structured into:
Rotation A
LHR outbound
Meal 3
Meal 4
inbound to LHR
Meal 5
Meal 6
Rotation B
LHR outbound
Meal 5
Meal 6
inbound to LHR
Meal 1
Meal 2
Rotation C
LHR outbound
Meal 1
Meal 2
inbound to LHR
Meal 3
Meal 4
===
October 2017 = Rotation C
November 2017 = Rotation A
December 2017 = Rotation B
January 2018 = Rotation C
etc
This thread outlines the new arrangements for Club Europe catering, introduced on Sunday 26 March 2017 and due to end on Tuesday 11 September 2018, based on 3 zones. A new Club Europe catering product is due to be launch on Wednesday 12 September 2018, and this is based on 4 bands. The main information piece - in terms of timings and the distance zones for the meals can be found in post 1. The following cross references the photos below against the matrix of options. In addition to the photos, some FTers have written extensively on their experiences so there is more to this thread than the pictures. Also note that there was an increase in food offered on some combinations shortly after the start-up, so the more recent photos may be the best place to start.The previous shorthaul catering guide, now locked but which had the previous 4 band system, is to be found here.
Numbers relate to the post number. Vegetarian means the alternative option provided as standard rather than the pre-ordered versions - which are VLML (Lacto-ovo), AVML (Asia) and VGML (Vegan) . There are differences between the offering in/out of LHR, LGW, LCY+STN. Last update: 833
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Note posts before 1-832 are typically the April 2017 menu. 833 and above is from the menu for May 2017.
----
Chef's Chat sheets for:
CE LHR Summer 2017 - Rotation A
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28338151-post954.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28339641-post958.html
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Short Band (UK, France, Ireland, BeNeLux, Germany)
Breakfast: 279, 570 (vegetarian), 629, 674, 821 (Express breakfast for MAN and LBA), 1343 (Vegan), 2285 (Express for LBA and MAN), 2445
Brunch: 180, 289, 469, 563, 685, 716, 2625 (AVML)
Lunch: 207, 545 (diabetic), 644 (first photo), 680 (VLML), 802, 928, 1322 (Kosher), 2284
Afternoon tea: 339, 404 (vegetarian), 480, 600 (VLML), 710 (including low lactose), 800, 882 (gluten free), 1281, 1322 (Kosher), 1673, 2679 (Kosher), 2792
Dinner: 563, 630 (VGML), 669 (Kosher Passover), 771 (VGML LCY) 799, 819 (AVML), 833 (May 2017 menu), 1283, 1287, 1674, 2446, 2616 (Kosher), 2793
Comments on difference between AVML and VLML here.
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Medium Band (e.g. Madrid, Nice, Prague, Copenhagen)
Breakfast: 645 (vegetarian), 724 (vegetarian), 1003
Brunch: 199 (VLML), 600 (VLML), 659 (Kosher Passover)
Lunch: 239 (child), 251, 425, 641, 733
Afternoon tea: 332 (also includes vegetarian), 426 (GFML), 813 (Muslim)
Dinner: 456, 551 (also includes VLML), 666, 1004,
1278
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Long Band (e.g. Lisbon, Rome, Warsaw, Stockholm).
Breakfast: 195 (vegetarian)
Rest of the day: 306 (LFML), 345, 427, 443, 468, 597, 676, 687, 695, 783 (VLML)
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NOT MAINTAINED AND OUT OF DATE: The complete Short Haul meal structure for the longer flights as of October 2017 is:
LHR
Meal 1: Chicken / red pepper risotto
Meal 2: Beef cheek
Meal 3: Chicken supreme / gnocchi
Meal 4: Miso glazed cod
Meal 5: Chicken khao soi
Meal 6: Hot smoked salmon linguine
LGW
Meal 1: Thyme roasted chicken
Meal 2: Spicy corn and paneer masala
Meal 3: Thai Penang chicken curry
Meal 4: Roasted red pepper tortellini
Meal 5: Beef and mushroom caserole
Meal 6: Tomato and four cheeses tortellini
Structured into:
Rotation A
LHR outbound
Meal 3
Meal 4
inbound to LHR
Meal 5
Meal 6
Rotation B
LHR outbound
Meal 5
Meal 6
inbound to LHR
Meal 1
Meal 2
Rotation C
LHR outbound
Meal 1
Meal 2
inbound to LHR
Meal 3
Meal 4
===
October 2017 = Rotation C
November 2017 = Rotation A
December 2017 = Rotation B
January 2018 = Rotation C
etc
Club Europe catering guide
Dec 8, 2017, 4:48 am
#1801
Join Date: Sep 2013
Programs: BAEC Gold, EK Skywards (enhanced Blue !), Oman Air Sindbad Gold
Posts: 6,399
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I think the rot actually started when someone who professes to be in charge of BA "products" (although actually they are just a marketing bod) solemnly told me that the Club Europe proposition offered the ultimate in convenience and control, it suddenly clicked to me that this person was so detached from the reality of what a premium shorthaul passenger might want [& what BA actually deliver] ....................
(I ask as a keen fan of Buzzword Bingo ..... very often my sole means of staying awake during afternoon graveyard slots on day 3 of 3-day seminars
)
Dec 8, 2017, 3:30 pm
#1802
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: UK
Programs: BAEC Gold, IHG Gold, Virgin FC Red
Posts: 626
Dec 11, 2017, 12:54 pm
#1803
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: London - SW4
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 320
BA 891 SOF-LHR
11 December
*Very* shellfish-heavy menu. Seemed a bit unwise due to allergies (okay, maybe that's just me) and potential polarisation (though not quite at marmite levels).
Absolutely lovely crew! CSM was very banterful (banterous?) and proactive with service - how BA should be!
Beef was tasty - sauce very nice. Mash a bit boring, but veg alright. Bread warmed just enough. Pudding far too sweet, though that's probably just my taste. Not a massive fan of brie and find the biscuits almost soggy, but very much appreciate the quince paste. All around, very good flight and thankful to be back in London given the weekend's weather drama.
Would post pictures but pretty standard fare - let me know if you'd like to have a look.
Menu as follows:
Starter
Seared king prawns on goma wakame salad
Main
Grilled breast of chicken with pappardelle pasta and lobster cream sauce
or
Slow-braised beef cheek with sweetcorn mash and thyme jus
Dessert
Crunchy hazelnut cheesecake with mango and passion-fruit jelly
and
Somerset brie with quince jelly and oat cakes
11 December
*Very* shellfish-heavy menu. Seemed a bit unwise due to allergies (okay, maybe that's just me) and potential polarisation (though not quite at marmite levels).
Absolutely lovely crew! CSM was very banterful (banterous?) and proactive with service - how BA should be!
Beef was tasty - sauce very nice. Mash a bit boring, but veg alright. Bread warmed just enough. Pudding far too sweet, though that's probably just my taste. Not a massive fan of brie and find the biscuits almost soggy, but very much appreciate the quince paste. All around, very good flight and thankful to be back in London given the weekend's weather drama.
Would post pictures but pretty standard fare - let me know if you'd like to have a look.
Menu as follows:
Starter
Seared king prawns on goma wakame salad
Main
Grilled breast of chicken with pappardelle pasta and lobster cream sauce
or
Slow-braised beef cheek with sweetcorn mash and thyme jus
Dessert
Crunchy hazelnut cheesecake with mango and passion-fruit jelly
and
Somerset brie with quince jelly and oat cakes
Dec 11, 2017, 1:16 pm
#1804
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Cape Town
Programs: BA Exec Gold , Qatar Priviledge Club Plat
Posts: 1,584
It occurs to me that if it will take until October 2018 to revamp catering on short and medium the paninis must have a very long shelf life.
In the meantime having had one I'll stick to booking the exit row and taking on board any food and drink I need for the flight.
In the meantime having had one I'll stick to booking the exit row and taking on board any food and drink I need for the flight.
Dec 11, 2017, 6:01 pm
#1805
FlyerTalk Evangelist, Ambassador, British Airways Executive Club
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Somewhere between 0 and 13,000 metres high
Programs: AF/KL Life Plat, BA GGL+GfL, ALL Plat, Hilton Diam, Marriott Gold, blablablah, etc
Posts: 30,517
BA 891 SOF-LHR
11 December
*Very* shellfish-heavy menu. Seemed a bit unwise due to allergies (okay, maybe that's just me) and potential polarisation (though not quite at marmite levels).
Absolutely lovely crew! CSM was very banterful (banterous?) and proactive with service - how BA should be!
Beef was tasty - sauce very nice. Mash a bit boring, but veg alright. Bread warmed just enough. Pudding far too sweet, though that's probably just my taste. Not a massive fan of brie and find the biscuits almost soggy, but very much appreciate the quince paste. All around, very good flight and thankful to be back in London given the weekend's weather drama.
Would post pictures but pretty standard fare - let me know if you'd like to have a look.
Menu as follows:
Starter
Seared king prawns on goma wakame salad
Main
Grilled breast of chicken with pappardelle pasta and lobster cream sauce
or
Slow-braised beef cheek with sweetcorn mash and thyme jus
Dessert
Crunchy hazelnut cheesecake with mango and passion-fruit jelly
and
Somerset brie with quince jelly and oat cakes
11 December
*Very* shellfish-heavy menu. Seemed a bit unwise due to allergies (okay, maybe that's just me) and potential polarisation (though not quite at marmite levels).
Absolutely lovely crew! CSM was very banterful (banterous?) and proactive with service - how BA should be!
Beef was tasty - sauce very nice. Mash a bit boring, but veg alright. Bread warmed just enough. Pudding far too sweet, though that's probably just my taste. Not a massive fan of brie and find the biscuits almost soggy, but very much appreciate the quince paste. All around, very good flight and thankful to be back in London given the weekend's weather drama.
Would post pictures but pretty standard fare - let me know if you'd like to have a look.
Menu as follows:
Starter
Seared king prawns on goma wakame salad
Main
Grilled breast of chicken with pappardelle pasta and lobster cream sauce
or
Slow-braised beef cheek with sweetcorn mash and thyme jus
Dessert
Crunchy hazelnut cheesecake with mango and passion-fruit jelly
and
Somerset brie with quince jelly and oat cakes
Dec 11, 2017, 6:07 pm
#1806
Ambassador, British Airways Executive Club, easyJet and Ryanair
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: UK/Las Vegas
Programs: BA Gold (GGL/CCR)
Posts: 15,923
Dec 11, 2017, 7:51 pm
#1807
FlyerTalk Evangelist, Ambassador, British Airways Executive Club
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Somewhere between 0 and 13,000 metres high
Programs: AF/KL Life Plat, BA GGL+GfL, ALL Plat, Hilton Diam, Marriott Gold, blablablah, etc
Posts: 30,517
Dec 13, 2017, 6:54 am
#1808
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Aberdeen
Programs: BA Gold, IHG Diamond Ambassador
Posts: 650
BA 891 SOF-LHR
11 December
*Very* shellfish-heavy menu. Seemed a bit unwise due to allergies (okay, maybe that's just me) and potential polarisation (though not quite at marmite levels).
It
Absolutely lovely crew! CSM was very banterful (banterous?) and proactive with service - how BA should be!
Beef was tasty - sauce very nice. Mash a bit boring, but veg alright. Bread warmed just enough. Pudding far too sweet, though that's probably just my taste. Not a massive fan of brie and find the biscuits almost soggy, but very much appreciate the quince paste. All around, very good flight and thankful to be back in London given the weekend's weather drama.
Would post pictures but pretty standard fare - let me know if you'd like to have a look.
Menu as follows:
Starter
Seared king prawns on goma wakame salad
Main
Grilled breast of chicken with pappardelle pasta and lobster cream sauce
or
Slow-braised beef cheek with sweetcorn mash and thyme jus
Dessert
Crunchy hazelnut cheesecake with mango and passion-fruit jelly
and
Somerset brie with quince jelly and oat cakes
11 December
*Very* shellfish-heavy menu. Seemed a bit unwise due to allergies (okay, maybe that's just me) and potential polarisation (though not quite at marmite levels).
It
Absolutely lovely crew! CSM was very banterful (banterous?) and proactive with service - how BA should be!
Beef was tasty - sauce very nice. Mash a bit boring, but veg alright. Bread warmed just enough. Pudding far too sweet, though that's probably just my taste. Not a massive fan of brie and find the biscuits almost soggy, but very much appreciate the quince paste. All around, very good flight and thankful to be back in London given the weekend's weather drama.
Would post pictures but pretty standard fare - let me know if you'd like to have a look.
Menu as follows:
Starter
Seared king prawns on goma wakame salad
Main
Grilled breast of chicken with pappardelle pasta and lobster cream sauce
or
Slow-braised beef cheek with sweetcorn mash and thyme jus
Dessert
Crunchy hazelnut cheesecake with mango and passion-fruit jelly
and
Somerset brie with quince jelly and oat cakes
cheers
neil
Dec 14, 2017, 6:00 am
#1809
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: London - SW4
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 320
Dec 14, 2017, 1:13 pm
#1810
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Dublin, Ireland
Programs: BA Gold, Mucci
Posts: 2,068
The beef cheek is stunning, so do make sure you sit forward to get it. It's really good... those oat cakes with the cheese though, pretty rotten. Water crackers would be far nicer.
Dec 15, 2017, 2:02 pm
#1811
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Cambridge, UK
Programs: BA Gold, VS Gold
Posts: 73
ROT B Dec 2017
Rotation B Dec 2017
LHR-TLL. Think I got confused with the different rotations but the food was still good anyway.
Dec 15, 2017, 3:16 pm
#1812
FlyerTalk Evangelist, Ambassador, British Airways Executive Club
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Somewhere between 0 and 13,000 metres high
Programs: AF/KL Life Plat, BA GGL+GfL, ALL Plat, Hilton Diam, Marriott Gold, blablablah, etc
Posts: 30,517
cant please everyone: I prefer oatcakes to water crackers though I much prefer the fruit crackers in F to both
Dec 15, 2017, 3:28 pm
#1813
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: London - SW4
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 320
FWIW I prefer oatcakes but it seems as if the ones in CE have been left in quite a moist environment (i.e. with the cheese/quince) rather than in an airtight packaging, hence they're a bit too damp/crumbly.
Dec 15, 2017, 3:48 pm
#1814
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: London, United Kingdom
Programs: BA Lifetime Gold;BA GGL; hhonors lifetime diamond; Marriott lt Gold; IH Plat Amb; Amex Centurion
Posts: 4,738
So I was on the 546 to FCO today. I won't post pictures as what I had was exactly the same as the poster at #1775 had WAW-LHR. Unlike many I quite liked the duck: it was not at all tough and quite tasty.
No menus appeared. I don’t know whether they had not been loaded or whether the cabin crew forgot. The alternative to the Chicken Tikka masala, which I enjoyed, was a fish pie which my husband praised. He didn't particularly praise the Pavlova. He said its two (yes, two) pieces of fruit (and small ones at that) were the absolute minimum which could be added to meringue and cream to call them a Pavlova….
No menus appeared. I don’t know whether they had not been loaded or whether the cabin crew forgot. The alternative to the Chicken Tikka masala, which I enjoyed, was a fish pie which my husband praised. He didn't particularly praise the Pavlova. He said its two (yes, two) pieces of fruit (and small ones at that) were the absolute minimum which could be added to meringue and cream to call them a Pavlova….
Last edited by hsmall; Dec 15, 2017 at 4:45 pm
Dec 17, 2017, 8:35 am
#1815
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: London, UK
Posts: 11
Flew VLC-LGW today and was hoping to finally add something vaguely useful to this thread (my employer recently switched to BA so apparently this is where I will hang out from now on) - but as previously noted, it's the same rotation as November. Had the beef bourguignon which was acceptable, meat a little tough in places but overall ok. Flight was quite empty and so got PDBs as well as liberal top-ups of the Castelnau throughout. Not so sure about that cumin quinoa starter though.
LHR-ARN later this week, fully expect that to be considerably busier...
LHR-ARN later this week, fully expect that to be considerably busier...