Apr 16, 2017, 1:12 pm
Last edit by: corporate-wage-slave
Club Europe Catering Guide 2017.
This thread outlines the new arrangements for Club Europe catering, introduced on Sunday 26 March 2017 and due to end on Tuesday 11 September 2018, based on 3 zones. A new Club Europe catering product is due to be launch on Wednesday 12 September 2018, and this is based on 4 bands. The main information piece - in terms of timings and the distance zones for the meals can be found in post 1. The following cross references the photos below against the matrix of options. In addition to the photos, some FTers have written extensively on their experiences so there is more to this thread than the pictures. Also note that there was an increase in food offered on some combinations shortly after the start-up, so the more recent photos may be the best place to start.The previous shorthaul catering guide, now locked but which had the previous 4 band system, is to be found here.
Numbers relate to the post number. Vegetarian means the alternative option provided as standard rather than the pre-ordered versions - which are VLML (Lacto-ovo), AVML (Asia) and VGML (Vegan) . There are differences between the offering in/out of LHR, LGW, LCY+STN. Last update: 833
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Note posts before 1-832 are typically the April 2017 menu. 833 and above is from the menu for May 2017.
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Chef's Chat sheets for:
CE LHR Summer 2017 - Rotation A
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28338151-post954.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28339641-post958.html
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Short Band (UK, France, Ireland, BeNeLux, Germany)
Breakfast: 279, 570 (vegetarian), 629, 674, 821 (Express breakfast for MAN and LBA), 1343 (Vegan), 2285 (Express for LBA and MAN), 2445
Brunch: 180, 289, 469, 563, 685, 716, 2625 (AVML)
Lunch: 207, 545 (diabetic), 644 (first photo), 680 (VLML), 802, 928, 1322 (Kosher), 2284
Afternoon tea: 339, 404 (vegetarian), 480, 600 (VLML), 710 (including low lactose), 800, 882 (gluten free), 1281, 1322 (Kosher), 1673, 2679 (Kosher), 2792
Dinner: 563, 630 (VGML), 669 (Kosher Passover), 771 (VGML LCY) 799, 819 (AVML), 833 (May 2017 menu), 1283, 1287, 1674, 2446, 2616 (Kosher), 2793
Comments on difference between AVML and VLML here.
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Medium Band (e.g. Madrid, Nice, Prague, Copenhagen)
Breakfast: 645 (vegetarian), 724 (vegetarian), 1003
Brunch: 199 (VLML), 600 (VLML), 659 (Kosher Passover)
Lunch: 239 (child), 251, 425, 641, 733
Afternoon tea: 332 (also includes vegetarian), 426 (GFML), 813 (Muslim)
Dinner: 456, 551 (also includes VLML), 666, 1004,
1278
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Long Band (e.g. Lisbon, Rome, Warsaw, Stockholm).
Breakfast: 195 (vegetarian)
Rest of the day: 306 (LFML), 345, 427, 443, 468, 597, 676, 687, 695, 783 (VLML)
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NOT MAINTAINED AND OUT OF DATE: The complete Short Haul meal structure for the longer flights as of October 2017 is:
LHR
Meal 1: Chicken / red pepper risotto
Meal 2: Beef cheek
Meal 3: Chicken supreme / gnocchi
Meal 4: Miso glazed cod
Meal 5: Chicken khao soi
Meal 6: Hot smoked salmon linguine
LGW
Meal 1: Thyme roasted chicken
Meal 2: Spicy corn and paneer masala
Meal 3: Thai Penang chicken curry
Meal 4: Roasted red pepper tortellini
Meal 5: Beef and mushroom caserole
Meal 6: Tomato and four cheeses tortellini
Structured into:
Rotation A
LHR outbound
Meal 3
Meal 4
inbound to LHR
Meal 5
Meal 6
Rotation B
LHR outbound
Meal 5
Meal 6
inbound to LHR
Meal 1
Meal 2
Rotation C
LHR outbound
Meal 1
Meal 2
inbound to LHR
Meal 3
Meal 4
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October 2017 = Rotation C
November 2017 = Rotation A
December 2017 = Rotation B
January 2018 = Rotation C
etc
This thread outlines the new arrangements for Club Europe catering, introduced on Sunday 26 March 2017 and due to end on Tuesday 11 September 2018, based on 3 zones. A new Club Europe catering product is due to be launch on Wednesday 12 September 2018, and this is based on 4 bands. The main information piece - in terms of timings and the distance zones for the meals can be found in post 1. The following cross references the photos below against the matrix of options. In addition to the photos, some FTers have written extensively on their experiences so there is more to this thread than the pictures. Also note that there was an increase in food offered on some combinations shortly after the start-up, so the more recent photos may be the best place to start.The previous shorthaul catering guide, now locked but which had the previous 4 band system, is to be found here.
Numbers relate to the post number. Vegetarian means the alternative option provided as standard rather than the pre-ordered versions - which are VLML (Lacto-ovo), AVML (Asia) and VGML (Vegan) . There are differences between the offering in/out of LHR, LGW, LCY+STN. Last update: 833
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Note posts before 1-832 are typically the April 2017 menu. 833 and above is from the menu for May 2017.
----
Chef's Chat sheets for:
CE LHR Summer 2017 - Rotation A
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28338151-post954.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28339641-post958.html
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Short Band (UK, France, Ireland, BeNeLux, Germany)
Breakfast: 279, 570 (vegetarian), 629, 674, 821 (Express breakfast for MAN and LBA), 1343 (Vegan), 2285 (Express for LBA and MAN), 2445
Brunch: 180, 289, 469, 563, 685, 716, 2625 (AVML)
Lunch: 207, 545 (diabetic), 644 (first photo), 680 (VLML), 802, 928, 1322 (Kosher), 2284
Afternoon tea: 339, 404 (vegetarian), 480, 600 (VLML), 710 (including low lactose), 800, 882 (gluten free), 1281, 1322 (Kosher), 1673, 2679 (Kosher), 2792
Dinner: 563, 630 (VGML), 669 (Kosher Passover), 771 (VGML LCY) 799, 819 (AVML), 833 (May 2017 menu), 1283, 1287, 1674, 2446, 2616 (Kosher), 2793
Comments on difference between AVML and VLML here.
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Medium Band (e.g. Madrid, Nice, Prague, Copenhagen)
Breakfast: 645 (vegetarian), 724 (vegetarian), 1003
Brunch: 199 (VLML), 600 (VLML), 659 (Kosher Passover)
Lunch: 239 (child), 251, 425, 641, 733
Afternoon tea: 332 (also includes vegetarian), 426 (GFML), 813 (Muslim)
Dinner: 456, 551 (also includes VLML), 666, 1004,
1278
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Long Band (e.g. Lisbon, Rome, Warsaw, Stockholm).
Breakfast: 195 (vegetarian)
Rest of the day: 306 (LFML), 345, 427, 443, 468, 597, 676, 687, 695, 783 (VLML)
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NOT MAINTAINED AND OUT OF DATE: The complete Short Haul meal structure for the longer flights as of October 2017 is:
LHR
Meal 1: Chicken / red pepper risotto
Meal 2: Beef cheek
Meal 3: Chicken supreme / gnocchi
Meal 4: Miso glazed cod
Meal 5: Chicken khao soi
Meal 6: Hot smoked salmon linguine
LGW
Meal 1: Thyme roasted chicken
Meal 2: Spicy corn and paneer masala
Meal 3: Thai Penang chicken curry
Meal 4: Roasted red pepper tortellini
Meal 5: Beef and mushroom caserole
Meal 6: Tomato and four cheeses tortellini
Structured into:
Rotation A
LHR outbound
Meal 3
Meal 4
inbound to LHR
Meal 5
Meal 6
Rotation B
LHR outbound
Meal 5
Meal 6
inbound to LHR
Meal 1
Meal 2
Rotation C
LHR outbound
Meal 1
Meal 2
inbound to LHR
Meal 3
Meal 4
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October 2017 = Rotation C
November 2017 = Rotation A
December 2017 = Rotation B
January 2018 = Rotation C
etc
Club Europe catering guide
Nov 11, 2017, 5:28 am
#1696
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 582
and the new menus for LGW, yeah!
LGW TFS Rot A - nov 17 , breakfast
LGW TFS Rot A Breakfast Nov 2017
a very delicious British yoghurt from Yeo Valley mango & vanilla combination flavour
Full English Breakfast
TFS - LGW Rot A - nov 17 - dinner
we both loved the starter
Starter Tiramisu and Cheddar Cheese
Goat's cheese and Shropshire Blue starter
also very much enjoyed the Thai green chicken curry. Would have loved a bit more curry.
Thai green chicken curry
Tasty cheddar cheese and delicious wrapped! crisp bread and tiramisu for dessert. I don't normally have the sweet dessert as I don't like orangey flavoured chocolate.... finished all the tiramisu though! Clean plates for both of us.
LGW TFS Rot A - nov 17 , breakfast
LGW TFS Rot A Breakfast Nov 2017
a very delicious British yoghurt from Yeo Valley mango & vanilla combination flavour
Full English Breakfast
TFS - LGW Rot A - nov 17 - dinner
we both loved the starter
Starter Tiramisu and Cheddar Cheese
Goat's cheese and Shropshire Blue starter
also very much enjoyed the Thai green chicken curry. Would have loved a bit more curry.
Thai green chicken curry
Tasty cheddar cheese and delicious wrapped! crisp bread and tiramisu for dessert. I don't normally have the sweet dessert as I don't like orangey flavoured chocolate.... finished all the tiramisu though! Clean plates for both of us.
Last edited by AmaaiZeg; Nov 22, 2017 at 10:03 am Reason: Checking photo links
Nov 11, 2017, 6:50 am
#1697
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Nov 11, 2017, 6:57 am
#1698
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Nov 11, 2017, 8:07 am
#1699
Join Date: Oct 2015
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Posts: 1,390
Last edited by Rubecula; Nov 11, 2017 at 8:08 am Reason: Again I misread the post. I need new glasses.
Nov 11, 2017, 8:25 am
#1700
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Buckinghamshire
Programs: BAEC Gold Guest List, Hilton Honours Diamond, Accor Gold
Posts: 2,303
Thanks for the Gatters post above! It puzzles me about why it appears to be MEAT/VEGETARIAN for Gatters and MEAT/FISH at LHR on longer routes..
Nov 11, 2017, 11:22 am
#1701
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Don't waste it throwing it at him!
Nov 11, 2017, 4:57 pm
#1702
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Looks like leftovers. Utter garbage.
Nov 11, 2017, 5:24 pm
#1703
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well, that of course I will, but mostly on the grounds that I would be delighted to give you my nice real meal too and not just that dollhouse sized version. I’m no big eater but in what parallel universe does that salad sample constitute a full meal?
Nov 11, 2017, 5:54 pm
#1704
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: London
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 847
I don't think we have any evidence that this has been presented as a medium band main course? I live in hope - from what I've seen the Gatwick medium meals seem a bit better than the Heathrow ones, but if this tiny starter does end up as a main then I will join you in throwing it.
Nov 12, 2017, 5:35 am
#1705
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Southampton
Posts: 221
Returning from VCE 48hrs ago I chose the 'Ploughmans'. I don't have a photo unfortunately but my lettuce was nothing like as crisp as orbitmic's in the photo above, I didn't get a roll - but a plastic bag with two small slices of white bread - one piece of cheese that would just about feed the mice in my garage and some frozen butter. I attempted to butter the bread, thinking this attempt at a 'Britishness' meal must be the product of a BA-style W1A* focus group, gave up and put it in my pocket to warm it up. Then passed out...this was the end of a mileage run Phuket-BKK-DOH-VCE (-LGW)....and was awoken by the missus, who was in shock at the lack of water in the loo, wondering how anyone was washing their hands, to find I now had a pocket full of molten butter!
N.B. The wife, accompanying me on a mileage run for the first time was expecting that Club Europe was a lie flat bed
Let's just say that she liked the incessant supply of Earl Grey tea served by the Qatar folks (are they droids?...nice ones) and won't be flying pointy end short haul on BA anytime soon.
I did take photos of the food splattered on the window surround and centre tray before I cleaned around with the moist towelette, wish I'd taken a photo of the food though.
(*W1A for non-BBC watchers....download it if you can, it's a comedic look at the BBC produced by the BBC itself. Good old self-deprecating Brits!)
N.B. The wife, accompanying me on a mileage run for the first time was expecting that Club Europe was a lie flat bed
Let's just say that she liked the incessant supply of Earl Grey tea served by the Qatar folks (are they droids?...nice ones) and won't be flying pointy end short haul on BA anytime soon.I did take photos of the food splattered on the window surround and centre tray before I cleaned around with the moist towelette, wish I'd taken a photo of the food though.
(*W1A for non-BBC watchers....download it if you can, it's a comedic look at the BBC produced by the BBC itself. Good old self-deprecating Brits!)
Last edited by Spongthrush; Nov 12, 2017 at 12:33 pm
Nov 13, 2017, 2:14 am
#1706
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I have to say that I can manage on what he calls (and it would apply in this particular instance) "full dainties", whereas he is living proof that the way to any man's heart is via his stomach. So, in all seriousness, if that salad constituted a full meal, we would all look like those emaciated females from the catwalk.
Nov 13, 2017, 3:19 am
#1707
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: London
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 1,345
Hey folks,
As promised upthread, you can see below the new long rotation A chicken tikka masala meal picture.
A couple of thoughts on the flight too, however.
Details: BA877 TLL-LHR, G-EUYI, flight time: 2h40, CE: 14/16, ET 139/144
[*]The trays are really too small now for this type of catering. The plate under the chicken tikka masala plate didn’t fit on the tray with the desert plate (round) still on it. This meant that I had to remove the desert and cheese to be able to fit the whole main course plate onto the tray. Otherwise it would have overlapped the edge of the tray and be uneven. Not very premium if you ask me…[/LIST]
Starter, cheese and desert
As promised upthread, you can see below the new long rotation A chicken tikka masala meal picture.
A couple of thoughts on the flight too, however.
Details: BA877 TLL-LHR, G-EUYI, flight time: 2h40, CE: 14/16, ET 139/144
[*]The trays are really too small now for this type of catering. The plate under the chicken tikka masala plate didn’t fit on the tray with the desert plate (round) still on it. This meant that I had to remove the desert and cheese to be able to fit the whole main course plate onto the tray. Otherwise it would have overlapped the edge of the tray and be uneven. Not very premium if you ask me…[/LIST]
Starter, cheese and desert
Nov 13, 2017, 3:24 am
#1708
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Yep, this has been the case since spring this year.
Nov 13, 2017, 4:25 am
#1709
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Nov 18, 2017, 12:42 am
#1710
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Starter on outbound TLL yesterday (Fri 16th) was salmon not duck. No menus but crew outstanding. Made a fuss of all the passengers, the fizz flowed and all 6 rows appeared to enjoy the party! Only drawback was the number of pax queuing for the forward toilet from euro traveller. 8 at one point. However the main reason for this was the extremely slow progress of the trolley moving down through the back serving BOB blocking the aisle and access to the rear toilets. (my friend was in 9C).