Apr 16, 2017, 1:12 pm
Last edit by: corporate-wage-slave
Club Europe Catering Guide 2017.
This thread outlines the new arrangements for Club Europe catering, introduced on Sunday 26 March 2017 and due to end on Tuesday 11 September 2018, based on 3 zones. A new Club Europe catering product is due to be launch on Wednesday 12 September 2018, and this is based on 4 bands. The main information piece - in terms of timings and the distance zones for the meals can be found in post 1. The following cross references the photos below against the matrix of options. In addition to the photos, some FTers have written extensively on their experiences so there is more to this thread than the pictures. Also note that there was an increase in food offered on some combinations shortly after the start-up, so the more recent photos may be the best place to start.The previous shorthaul catering guide, now locked but which had the previous 4 band system, is to be found here.
Numbers relate to the post number. Vegetarian means the alternative option provided as standard rather than the pre-ordered versions - which are VLML (Lacto-ovo), AVML (Asia) and VGML (Vegan) . There are differences between the offering in/out of LHR, LGW, LCY+STN. Last update: 833
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Note posts before 1-832 are typically the April 2017 menu. 833 and above is from the menu for May 2017.
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Chef's Chat sheets for:
CE LHR Summer 2017 - Rotation A
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28338151-post954.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28339641-post958.html
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Short Band (UK, France, Ireland, BeNeLux, Germany)
Breakfast: 279, 570 (vegetarian), 629, 674, 821 (Express breakfast for MAN and LBA), 1343 (Vegan), 2285 (Express for LBA and MAN), 2445
Brunch: 180, 289, 469, 563, 685, 716, 2625 (AVML)
Lunch: 207, 545 (diabetic), 644 (first photo), 680 (VLML), 802, 928, 1322 (Kosher), 2284
Afternoon tea: 339, 404 (vegetarian), 480, 600 (VLML), 710 (including low lactose), 800, 882 (gluten free), 1281, 1322 (Kosher), 1673, 2679 (Kosher), 2792
Dinner: 563, 630 (VGML), 669 (Kosher Passover), 771 (VGML LCY) 799, 819 (AVML), 833 (May 2017 menu), 1283, 1287, 1674, 2446, 2616 (Kosher), 2793
Comments on difference between AVML and VLML here.
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Medium Band (e.g. Madrid, Nice, Prague, Copenhagen)
Breakfast: 645 (vegetarian), 724 (vegetarian), 1003
Brunch: 199 (VLML), 600 (VLML), 659 (Kosher Passover)
Lunch: 239 (child), 251, 425, 641, 733
Afternoon tea: 332 (also includes vegetarian), 426 (GFML), 813 (Muslim)
Dinner: 456, 551 (also includes VLML), 666, 1004,
1278
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Long Band (e.g. Lisbon, Rome, Warsaw, Stockholm).
Breakfast: 195 (vegetarian)
Rest of the day: 306 (LFML), 345, 427, 443, 468, 597, 676, 687, 695, 783 (VLML)
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NOT MAINTAINED AND OUT OF DATE: The complete Short Haul meal structure for the longer flights as of October 2017 is:
LHR
Meal 1: Chicken / red pepper risotto
Meal 2: Beef cheek
Meal 3: Chicken supreme / gnocchi
Meal 4: Miso glazed cod
Meal 5: Chicken khao soi
Meal 6: Hot smoked salmon linguine
LGW
Meal 1: Thyme roasted chicken
Meal 2: Spicy corn and paneer masala
Meal 3: Thai Penang chicken curry
Meal 4: Roasted red pepper tortellini
Meal 5: Beef and mushroom caserole
Meal 6: Tomato and four cheeses tortellini
Structured into:
Rotation A
LHR outbound
Meal 3
Meal 4
inbound to LHR
Meal 5
Meal 6
Rotation B
LHR outbound
Meal 5
Meal 6
inbound to LHR
Meal 1
Meal 2
Rotation C
LHR outbound
Meal 1
Meal 2
inbound to LHR
Meal 3
Meal 4
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October 2017 = Rotation C
November 2017 = Rotation A
December 2017 = Rotation B
January 2018 = Rotation C
etc
This thread outlines the new arrangements for Club Europe catering, introduced on Sunday 26 March 2017 and due to end on Tuesday 11 September 2018, based on 3 zones. A new Club Europe catering product is due to be launch on Wednesday 12 September 2018, and this is based on 4 bands. The main information piece - in terms of timings and the distance zones for the meals can be found in post 1. The following cross references the photos below against the matrix of options. In addition to the photos, some FTers have written extensively on their experiences so there is more to this thread than the pictures. Also note that there was an increase in food offered on some combinations shortly after the start-up, so the more recent photos may be the best place to start.The previous shorthaul catering guide, now locked but which had the previous 4 band system, is to be found here.
Numbers relate to the post number. Vegetarian means the alternative option provided as standard rather than the pre-ordered versions - which are VLML (Lacto-ovo), AVML (Asia) and VGML (Vegan) . There are differences between the offering in/out of LHR, LGW, LCY+STN. Last update: 833
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Note posts before 1-832 are typically the April 2017 menu. 833 and above is from the menu for May 2017.
----
Chef's Chat sheets for:
CE LHR Summer 2017 - Rotation A
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28338151-post954.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28339641-post958.html
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Short Band (UK, France, Ireland, BeNeLux, Germany)
Breakfast: 279, 570 (vegetarian), 629, 674, 821 (Express breakfast for MAN and LBA), 1343 (Vegan), 2285 (Express for LBA and MAN), 2445
Brunch: 180, 289, 469, 563, 685, 716, 2625 (AVML)
Lunch: 207, 545 (diabetic), 644 (first photo), 680 (VLML), 802, 928, 1322 (Kosher), 2284
Afternoon tea: 339, 404 (vegetarian), 480, 600 (VLML), 710 (including low lactose), 800, 882 (gluten free), 1281, 1322 (Kosher), 1673, 2679 (Kosher), 2792
Dinner: 563, 630 (VGML), 669 (Kosher Passover), 771 (VGML LCY) 799, 819 (AVML), 833 (May 2017 menu), 1283, 1287, 1674, 2446, 2616 (Kosher), 2793
Comments on difference between AVML and VLML here.
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Medium Band (e.g. Madrid, Nice, Prague, Copenhagen)
Breakfast: 645 (vegetarian), 724 (vegetarian), 1003
Brunch: 199 (VLML), 600 (VLML), 659 (Kosher Passover)
Lunch: 239 (child), 251, 425, 641, 733
Afternoon tea: 332 (also includes vegetarian), 426 (GFML), 813 (Muslim)
Dinner: 456, 551 (also includes VLML), 666, 1004,
1278
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Long Band (e.g. Lisbon, Rome, Warsaw, Stockholm).
Breakfast: 195 (vegetarian)
Rest of the day: 306 (LFML), 345, 427, 443, 468, 597, 676, 687, 695, 783 (VLML)
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NOT MAINTAINED AND OUT OF DATE: The complete Short Haul meal structure for the longer flights as of October 2017 is:
LHR
Meal 1: Chicken / red pepper risotto
Meal 2: Beef cheek
Meal 3: Chicken supreme / gnocchi
Meal 4: Miso glazed cod
Meal 5: Chicken khao soi
Meal 6: Hot smoked salmon linguine
LGW
Meal 1: Thyme roasted chicken
Meal 2: Spicy corn and paneer masala
Meal 3: Thai Penang chicken curry
Meal 4: Roasted red pepper tortellini
Meal 5: Beef and mushroom caserole
Meal 6: Tomato and four cheeses tortellini
Structured into:
Rotation A
LHR outbound
Meal 3
Meal 4
inbound to LHR
Meal 5
Meal 6
Rotation B
LHR outbound
Meal 5
Meal 6
inbound to LHR
Meal 1
Meal 2
Rotation C
LHR outbound
Meal 1
Meal 2
inbound to LHR
Meal 3
Meal 4
===
October 2017 = Rotation C
November 2017 = Rotation A
December 2017 = Rotation B
January 2018 = Rotation C
etc
Club Europe catering guide
Jun 21, 2017, 4:44 pm
#1111
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 26
Thank you for the response, it must have been a one off, I had the duck. Also on an other note, does anyone know how much detail is contained on the cabin crew ipad RE: catering. On two of my recent flights it was suggested that I might like a red wine and a baileys which what I always have!!
Jun 21, 2017, 5:05 pm
#1112
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Glasgow
Programs: British Airways Silver, Hilton Diamond, Accor Platinum, AMEX plat
Posts: 251
I was wondering if anyone has seen the short band LHR VGML for afternoon tea yet? I didn't see it when scanning this thread. Also, how similar are the LCY lunches and dinners? The VGML lasagna looks quite nice for dinner to me, but i'm flying to RTM at lunchtime. Thanks in advance.
Jun 21, 2017, 5:22 pm
#1113
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: glasgow, scotland
Programs: BA Executive Club Gold
Posts: 224
I was wondering if anyone has seen the short band LHR VGML for afternoon tea yet? I didn't see it when scanning this thread. Also, how similar are the LCY lunches and dinners? The VGML lasagna looks quite nice for dinner to me, but i'm flying to RTM at lunchtime. Thanks in advance.
I had it LHR-PMI last week. It is the mozzarella and three X tomato quarters, ''salad'' served with a drizzle of pesto. This comes with the standard afternoon tea slice of cake. And nothing else. Fine for a short band but totally awful for a medium.
Jun 21, 2017, 5:24 pm
#1114
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Glasgow
Programs: British Airways Silver, Hilton Diamond, Accor Platinum, AMEX plat
Posts: 251
Jun 23, 2017, 9:29 am
#1115
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: UK
Posts: 221
Can't order a special meal
I've redeemed CE LCY-EDI on Monday afternoon as there was no availability in Economy on the flight I needed.
The option to order a special meal is grayed out on MMB. In the myflights app it shows Lacto-Ovo Vegetarian (NO) next to my name. Does this mean I won't be getting a meal on my flight? Any suggestions?
Vegetarian meal preference is set in my BAEC profile but usually it would show Confirmed on myflights.
The option to order a special meal is grayed out on MMB. In the myflights app it shows Lacto-Ovo Vegetarian (NO) next to my name. Does this mean I won't be getting a meal on my flight? Any suggestions?
Vegetarian meal preference is set in my BAEC profile but usually it would show Confirmed on myflights.
Jun 23, 2017, 9:38 am
#1116
Moderator, Iberia Airlines, Airport Lounges, and Ambassador, British Airways Executive Club
Join Date: Feb 2010
Programs: BA Lifetime Gold; Flying Blue Life Platinum; LH Sen.; Hilton Diamond; Kemal Kebabs Prized Customer
Posts: 63,779
I think florens has experience of this, but my understanding is that you should get the vegetarian dish via your profile default setting.
Jun 23, 2017, 4:21 pm
#1117
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: UK
Posts: 221
Thanks C-W-S, I will see what happens. Hopefully I will get a meal I can eat as this is the only differentiation to Economy for me on this route.
Jun 24, 2017, 1:07 am
#1118
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Switzerland
Programs: AY+ Platinum, SK Gold, BAEC Silver, airbaltic VIP, Radisson VIP
Posts: 6,529
Jun 24, 2017, 2:42 am
#1119
Join Date: Jun 2017
Programs: BAEC Silver
Posts: 63
isnt it time BA were a little more adventurous/ creative with their Hot Breakfast offering?
Almost every flight long haul, and every short/domestic hot breakfast I've been offered has been Sausage/Bacon/Egg, or Omelette.
Not to mention afternoon tea sandwiches invariable include an Egg filled one.
Does BA have their own chicken farm as they clearly like offering eggs on their menu.
Time to offer something different or new?
Almost every flight long haul, and every short/domestic hot breakfast I've been offered has been Sausage/Bacon/Egg, or Omelette.
Not to mention afternoon tea sandwiches invariable include an Egg filled one.
Does BA have their own chicken farm as they clearly like offering eggs on their menu.
Time to offer something different or new?
Jun 24, 2017, 3:25 am
#1120
Moderator, Iberia Airlines, Airport Lounges, and Ambassador, British Airways Executive Club
Join Date: Feb 2010
Programs: BA Lifetime Gold; Flying Blue Life Platinum; LH Sen.; Hilton Diamond; Kemal Kebabs Prized Customer
Posts: 63,779
But the problem is greater than breakfast. Yes the breakfast is somewhat unchanging (there are up to 2 alternatives, plus the Special meals, plus there is some customisation possible trading items around). At breakfast time you can perhaps get away with this since it's not a bad start to the day anyway. However there is now a very constrained number of meal options out there and I'm hitting the same meal, or a variant, time after time.
So there are 3 Rotations, plus inbound and outbound, plus 2 alternatives. So in theory there are 3 Rot x 2 directions x 2 alternative items = 12 items. However the rotations overlap, so in reality there are just 8 items, and these items also overlap on connecting sectors, so the starter on Long becomes the only meal on Short. So you can easily find yourself seeing beetroot 4 times in 2 days. Or in my case, and this has happened already, 8 times in 3 days!
Admittedly, by mixing LCY and LGW then you have a much wider range of options, and by dint of living between NCL and EDI I'm unusual in having that choice. Not many CE passenger live around here.
So regular CE flyers are going to get bored very soon! Welcome to the Club, say the vegetarians.
Jun 24, 2017, 3:34 am
#1121
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Switzerland
Programs: AY+ Platinum, SK Gold, BAEC Silver, airbaltic VIP, Radisson VIP
Posts: 6,529
For me this is turning into the bigger problem with these changes, which otherwise are broadly positive for me (given that CE is on domestics, which takes the edge off the Mediums issue).
But the problem is greater than breakfast. Yes the breakfast is somewhat unchanging (there are up to 2 alternatives, plus the Special meals, plus there is some customisation possible trading items around). At breakfast time you can perhaps get away with this since it's not a bad start to the day anyway. However there is now a very constrained number of meal options out there and I'm hitting the same meal, or a variant, time after time.
So there are 3 Rotations, plus inbound and outbound, plus 2 alternatives. So in theory there are 3 Rot x 2 directions x 2 alternative items = 12 items. However the rotations overlap, so in reality there are just 8 items, and these items also overlap on connecting sectors, so the starter on Long becomes the only meal on Short. So you can easily find yourself seeing beetroot 4 times in 2 days. Or in my case, and this has happened already, 8 times in 3 days!
Admittedly, by mixing LCY and LGW then you have a much wider range of options, and by dint of living between NCL and EDI I'm unusual in having that choice. Not many CE passenger live around here.
So regular CE flyers are going to get bored very soon! Welcome to the Club, say the vegetarians.
But the problem is greater than breakfast. Yes the breakfast is somewhat unchanging (there are up to 2 alternatives, plus the Special meals, plus there is some customisation possible trading items around). At breakfast time you can perhaps get away with this since it's not a bad start to the day anyway. However there is now a very constrained number of meal options out there and I'm hitting the same meal, or a variant, time after time.
So there are 3 Rotations, plus inbound and outbound, plus 2 alternatives. So in theory there are 3 Rot x 2 directions x 2 alternative items = 12 items. However the rotations overlap, so in reality there are just 8 items, and these items also overlap on connecting sectors, so the starter on Long becomes the only meal on Short. So you can easily find yourself seeing beetroot 4 times in 2 days. Or in my case, and this has happened already, 8 times in 3 days!
Admittedly, by mixing LCY and LGW then you have a much wider range of options, and by dint of living between NCL and EDI I'm unusual in having that choice. Not many CE passenger live around here.
So regular CE flyers are going to get bored very soon! Welcome to the Club, say the vegetarians.
ZRH-LHR: as a main
LHR-TLL: as a starter
LHR-ZRH: as a main
Jun 24, 2017, 4:41 am
#1122
Join Date: May 2009
Location: London
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 2,741
isnt it time BA were a little more adventurous/ creative with their Hot Breakfast offering?
Almost every flight long haul, and every short/domestic hot breakfast I've been offered has been Sausage/Bacon/Egg, or Omelette.
Not to mention afternoon tea sandwiches invariable include an Egg filled one.
Does BA have their own chicken farm as they clearly like offering eggs on their menu.
Time to offer something different or new?
Almost every flight long haul, and every short/domestic hot breakfast I've been offered has been Sausage/Bacon/Egg, or Omelette.
Not to mention afternoon tea sandwiches invariable include an Egg filled one.
Does BA have their own chicken farm as they clearly like offering eggs on their menu.
Time to offer something different or new?
But, yes, it does look like they need to change everything else a little more often.
Jun 24, 2017, 7:01 am
#1123
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: LON
Programs: BA Gold; LH FTL; IHG Diamond; Marriott Gold; ALL Gold
Posts: 1,758
Jun 24, 2017, 7:17 am
#1124
Join Date: Nov 2011
Programs: BA Silver
Posts: 1,222
I had the chicken salad today on the 1135 from AMS.
Came with potato salad and some kind of cheesecake.
All parts were good, the potato salad needed the pepper though.
I thought that salad came with the lovely sliced in half prawn but maybe that has changed now?
Anyhow it was perfectly adequate and tasty!
Came with potato salad and some kind of cheesecake.
All parts were good, the potato salad needed the pepper though.
I thought that salad came with the lovely sliced in half prawn but maybe that has changed now?
Anyhow it was perfectly adequate and tasty!