Apr 16, 2017, 1:12 pm
Last edit by: corporate-wage-slave
Club Europe Catering Guide 2017.
This thread outlines the new arrangements for Club Europe catering, introduced on Sunday 26 March 2017 and due to end on Tuesday 11 September 2018, based on 3 zones. A new Club Europe catering product is due to be launch on Wednesday 12 September 2018, and this is based on 4 bands. The main information piece - in terms of timings and the distance zones for the meals can be found in post 1. The following cross references the photos below against the matrix of options. In addition to the photos, some FTers have written extensively on their experiences so there is more to this thread than the pictures. Also note that there was an increase in food offered on some combinations shortly after the start-up, so the more recent photos may be the best place to start.The previous shorthaul catering guide, now locked but which had the previous 4 band system, is to be found here.
Numbers relate to the post number. Vegetarian means the alternative option provided as standard rather than the pre-ordered versions - which are VLML (Lacto-ovo), AVML (Asia) and VGML (Vegan) . There are differences between the offering in/out of LHR, LGW, LCY+STN. Last update: 833
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Note posts before 1-832 are typically the April 2017 menu. 833 and above is from the menu for May 2017.
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Chef's Chat sheets for:
CE LHR Summer 2017 - Rotation A
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28338151-post954.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28339641-post958.html
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Short Band (UK, France, Ireland, BeNeLux, Germany)
Breakfast: 279, 570 (vegetarian), 629, 674, 821 (Express breakfast for MAN and LBA), 1343 (Vegan), 2285 (Express for LBA and MAN), 2445
Brunch: 180, 289, 469, 563, 685, 716, 2625 (AVML)
Lunch: 207, 545 (diabetic), 644 (first photo), 680 (VLML), 802, 928, 1322 (Kosher), 2284
Afternoon tea: 339, 404 (vegetarian), 480, 600 (VLML), 710 (including low lactose), 800, 882 (gluten free), 1281, 1322 (Kosher), 1673, 2679 (Kosher), 2792
Dinner: 563, 630 (VGML), 669 (Kosher Passover), 771 (VGML LCY) 799, 819 (AVML), 833 (May 2017 menu), 1283, 1287, 1674, 2446, 2616 (Kosher), 2793
Comments on difference between AVML and VLML here.
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Medium Band (e.g. Madrid, Nice, Prague, Copenhagen)
Breakfast: 645 (vegetarian), 724 (vegetarian), 1003
Brunch: 199 (VLML), 600 (VLML), 659 (Kosher Passover)
Lunch: 239 (child), 251, 425, 641, 733
Afternoon tea: 332 (also includes vegetarian), 426 (GFML), 813 (Muslim)
Dinner: 456, 551 (also includes VLML), 666, 1004,
1278
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Long Band (e.g. Lisbon, Rome, Warsaw, Stockholm).
Breakfast: 195 (vegetarian)
Rest of the day: 306 (LFML), 345, 427, 443, 468, 597, 676, 687, 695, 783 (VLML)
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NOT MAINTAINED AND OUT OF DATE: The complete Short Haul meal structure for the longer flights as of October 2017 is:
LHR
Meal 1: Chicken / red pepper risotto
Meal 2: Beef cheek
Meal 3: Chicken supreme / gnocchi
Meal 4: Miso glazed cod
Meal 5: Chicken khao soi
Meal 6: Hot smoked salmon linguine
LGW
Meal 1: Thyme roasted chicken
Meal 2: Spicy corn and paneer masala
Meal 3: Thai Penang chicken curry
Meal 4: Roasted red pepper tortellini
Meal 5: Beef and mushroom caserole
Meal 6: Tomato and four cheeses tortellini
Structured into:
Rotation A
LHR outbound
Meal 3
Meal 4
inbound to LHR
Meal 5
Meal 6
Rotation B
LHR outbound
Meal 5
Meal 6
inbound to LHR
Meal 1
Meal 2
Rotation C
LHR outbound
Meal 1
Meal 2
inbound to LHR
Meal 3
Meal 4
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October 2017 = Rotation C
November 2017 = Rotation A
December 2017 = Rotation B
January 2018 = Rotation C
etc
This thread outlines the new arrangements for Club Europe catering, introduced on Sunday 26 March 2017 and due to end on Tuesday 11 September 2018, based on 3 zones. A new Club Europe catering product is due to be launch on Wednesday 12 September 2018, and this is based on 4 bands. The main information piece - in terms of timings and the distance zones for the meals can be found in post 1. The following cross references the photos below against the matrix of options. In addition to the photos, some FTers have written extensively on their experiences so there is more to this thread than the pictures. Also note that there was an increase in food offered on some combinations shortly after the start-up, so the more recent photos may be the best place to start.The previous shorthaul catering guide, now locked but which had the previous 4 band system, is to be found here.
Numbers relate to the post number. Vegetarian means the alternative option provided as standard rather than the pre-ordered versions - which are VLML (Lacto-ovo), AVML (Asia) and VGML (Vegan) . There are differences between the offering in/out of LHR, LGW, LCY+STN. Last update: 833
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Note posts before 1-832 are typically the April 2017 menu. 833 and above is from the menu for May 2017.
----
Chef's Chat sheets for:
CE LHR Summer 2017 - Rotation A
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28338151-post954.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28339641-post958.html
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Short Band (UK, France, Ireland, BeNeLux, Germany)
Breakfast: 279, 570 (vegetarian), 629, 674, 821 (Express breakfast for MAN and LBA), 1343 (Vegan), 2285 (Express for LBA and MAN), 2445
Brunch: 180, 289, 469, 563, 685, 716, 2625 (AVML)
Lunch: 207, 545 (diabetic), 644 (first photo), 680 (VLML), 802, 928, 1322 (Kosher), 2284
Afternoon tea: 339, 404 (vegetarian), 480, 600 (VLML), 710 (including low lactose), 800, 882 (gluten free), 1281, 1322 (Kosher), 1673, 2679 (Kosher), 2792
Dinner: 563, 630 (VGML), 669 (Kosher Passover), 771 (VGML LCY) 799, 819 (AVML), 833 (May 2017 menu), 1283, 1287, 1674, 2446, 2616 (Kosher), 2793
Comments on difference between AVML and VLML here.
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Medium Band (e.g. Madrid, Nice, Prague, Copenhagen)
Breakfast: 645 (vegetarian), 724 (vegetarian), 1003
Brunch: 199 (VLML), 600 (VLML), 659 (Kosher Passover)
Lunch: 239 (child), 251, 425, 641, 733
Afternoon tea: 332 (also includes vegetarian), 426 (GFML), 813 (Muslim)
Dinner: 456, 551 (also includes VLML), 666, 1004,
1278
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Long Band (e.g. Lisbon, Rome, Warsaw, Stockholm).
Breakfast: 195 (vegetarian)
Rest of the day: 306 (LFML), 345, 427, 443, 468, 597, 676, 687, 695, 783 (VLML)
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NOT MAINTAINED AND OUT OF DATE: The complete Short Haul meal structure for the longer flights as of October 2017 is:
LHR
Meal 1: Chicken / red pepper risotto
Meal 2: Beef cheek
Meal 3: Chicken supreme / gnocchi
Meal 4: Miso glazed cod
Meal 5: Chicken khao soi
Meal 6: Hot smoked salmon linguine
LGW
Meal 1: Thyme roasted chicken
Meal 2: Spicy corn and paneer masala
Meal 3: Thai Penang chicken curry
Meal 4: Roasted red pepper tortellini
Meal 5: Beef and mushroom caserole
Meal 6: Tomato and four cheeses tortellini
Structured into:
Rotation A
LHR outbound
Meal 3
Meal 4
inbound to LHR
Meal 5
Meal 6
Rotation B
LHR outbound
Meal 5
Meal 6
inbound to LHR
Meal 1
Meal 2
Rotation C
LHR outbound
Meal 1
Meal 2
inbound to LHR
Meal 3
Meal 4
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October 2017 = Rotation C
November 2017 = Rotation A
December 2017 = Rotation B
January 2018 = Rotation C
etc
Club Europe catering guide
Mar 26, 2017, 5:20 am
#181
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Mar 26, 2017, 5:31 am
#182
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Reassuring to see that the one-eighth of an egg hasn't been enhanced away in the kids meal 'cold plate' option.
Mar 26, 2017, 5:40 am
#184
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So it's a cheese toastie. Presumably the same for Band 3 Lunch.
Mar 26, 2017, 5:45 am
#185
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The small bottles have been replaced to save money.
The hot meals have been replaced to save money.
The portions have been cut-back to save money (like the egg slither and missing fruit!).
Say it how it is! How anyone can say this is an improvement is quite comical in my opinion. And yes, my opinion counts too!
I still have a stack of Avios, and if BA had really improved the offering then I might have booked some CE flights, but this is a joke.
The hot meals have been replaced to save money.
The portions have been cut-back to save money (like the egg slither and missing fruit!).
Say it how it is! How anyone can say this is an improvement is quite comical in my opinion. And yes, my opinion counts too!
I still have a stack of Avios, and if BA had really improved the offering then I might have booked some CE flights, but this is a joke.
Mar 26, 2017, 5:46 am
#186
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. Tut tut. On first impression the brunch plate looks the same as before except for the different crockery. More interesting is the panini, the only happy person is the bean counter, that is so impossibly cheap to produce its amusing. Let's see what comes over the next few days but my initial impression of the "toastie" being less substantial than the M&S hot sandwich for sale in Euro Trash is true, unless you count a white processed frozen 25p panini as "substance". Pure carbs: the BA favourite, lovely and cheap.
If BA superbrew is still around then the coffee is better in the back too. Truly Premium.
Mar 26, 2017, 5:48 am
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These 'meals' look truly horrid compared to the hot mains that have been cut.
Mar 26, 2017, 5:50 am
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Mar 26, 2017, 5:54 am
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That is correct. But it sounds like Band 3 dinner could be about the same? We'll know in a few hours...
Mar 26, 2017, 5:56 am
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Clutter . Tut tut.
On first impression the brunch plate looks the same as before except for the different crockery. More interesting is the panini, the only happy person is the bean counter, that is so impossibly cheap to produce its amusing. Let's see what comes over the next few days but my initial impression of the "toastie" being less substantial than the M&S hot sandwich for sale in Euro Trash is true, unless you count a white processed frozen 25p panini as "substance". Pure carbs: the BA favourite, lovely and cheap.
If BA superbrew is still around then the coffee is better in the back too. Truly Premium.
. Tut tut. On first impression the brunch plate looks the same as before except for the different crockery. More interesting is the panini, the only happy person is the bean counter, that is so impossibly cheap to produce its amusing. Let's see what comes over the next few days but my initial impression of the "toastie" being less substantial than the M&S hot sandwich for sale in Euro Trash is true, unless you count a white processed frozen 25p panini as "substance". Pure carbs: the BA favourite, lovely and cheap.
If BA superbrew is still around then the coffee is better in the back too. Truly Premium.
Mar 26, 2017, 6:09 am
#192
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Sandwich looks shocking. 
Brunch plate is OK but might benefit from a bit more finesse in presentation and possible something carby eg breadsticks.
Brunch plate is OK but might benefit from a bit more finesse in presentation and possible something carby eg breadsticks.
Mar 26, 2017, 6:27 am
#193
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Thanks CWS, I'll try to repost when I'm at my laptop.
We thought we'd try CE for the experience having never done it before. Although a nice experience, the food was alright, it didn't shout "I'm worth the £150 upgrade" we paid.
Would we do it again? I'm not sure...
We thought we'd try CE for the experience having never done it before. Although a nice experience, the food was alright, it didn't shout "I'm worth the £150 upgrade" we paid.
Would we do it again? I'm not sure...
Mar 26, 2017, 6:34 am
#194
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There are a lot of people claiming things are not as 'good' as it was, whilst others are saying it's now better. Can I propose looking to do some direct comparisons with actual photos. This could take the form of a simple route, time, photo for before and after. We would then really be able to see how these meals have been enhanced. Of course we have very little actual examples so far. What I have seen looks fine - apart from the hot sandwich but that's because I don't do tomatoes.
Edit. Just seen a mid-morning addition on HfP with a couple of breakfast photos.
http://www.headforpoints.com/2017/03......-breakfast/
Edit. Just seen a mid-morning addition on HfP with a couple of breakfast photos.
http://www.headforpoints.com/2017/03......-breakfast/
Mar 26, 2017, 6:55 am
#195
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Excellent idea, madfish
LGW-MLA breakfast
Previously Band 4, now Long
HAT's breakfast frittata from February last year
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/26251327-post1767.html
southsidesilver's breakfast from earlier this month
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28020272-post2097.html
ILikePancakes' veggie breakfast served this morning
Differences:
+ Club World crockery including charger and bread plates
- loss of fruit plate
- baked beans are back (purely subjective on my part)
LGW-MLA breakfast
Previously Band 4, now Long
HAT's breakfast frittata from February last year
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/26251327-post1767.html
southsidesilver's breakfast from earlier this month
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28020272-post2097.html
ILikePancakes' veggie breakfast served this morning
Differences:
+ Club World crockery including charger and bread plates
- loss of fruit plate
- baked beans are back (purely subjective on my part)