Apr 16, 2017, 1:12 pm
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Club Europe Catering Guide 2017.
This thread outlines the new arrangements for Club Europe catering, introduced on Sunday 26 March 2017 and due to end on Tuesday 11 September 2018, based on 3 zones. A new Club Europe catering product is due to be launch on Wednesday 12 September 2018, and this is based on 4 bands. The main information piece - in terms of timings and the distance zones for the meals can be found in post 1. The following cross references the photos below against the matrix of options. In addition to the photos, some FTers have written extensively on their experiences so there is more to this thread than the pictures. Also note that there was an increase in food offered on some combinations shortly after the start-up, so the more recent photos may be the best place to start.The previous shorthaul catering guide, now locked but which had the previous 4 band system, is to be found here.
Numbers relate to the post number. Vegetarian means the alternative option provided as standard rather than the pre-ordered versions - which are VLML (Lacto-ovo), AVML (Asia) and VGML (Vegan) . There are differences between the offering in/out of LHR, LGW, LCY+STN. Last update: 833
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Note posts before 1-832 are typically the April 2017 menu. 833 and above is from the menu for May 2017.
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Chef's Chat sheets for:
CE LHR Summer 2017 - Rotation A
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28338151-post954.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28339641-post958.html
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Short Band (UK, France, Ireland, BeNeLux, Germany)
Breakfast: 279, 570 (vegetarian), 629, 674, 821 (Express breakfast for MAN and LBA), 1343 (Vegan), 2285 (Express for LBA and MAN), 2445
Brunch: 180, 289, 469, 563, 685, 716, 2625 (AVML)
Lunch: 207, 545 (diabetic), 644 (first photo), 680 (VLML), 802, 928, 1322 (Kosher), 2284
Afternoon tea: 339, 404 (vegetarian), 480, 600 (VLML), 710 (including low lactose), 800, 882 (gluten free), 1281, 1322 (Kosher), 1673, 2679 (Kosher), 2792
Dinner: 563, 630 (VGML), 669 (Kosher Passover), 771 (VGML LCY) 799, 819 (AVML), 833 (May 2017 menu), 1283, 1287, 1674, 2446, 2616 (Kosher), 2793
Comments on difference between AVML and VLML here.
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Medium Band (e.g. Madrid, Nice, Prague, Copenhagen)
Breakfast: 645 (vegetarian), 724 (vegetarian), 1003
Brunch: 199 (VLML), 600 (VLML), 659 (Kosher Passover)
Lunch: 239 (child), 251, 425, 641, 733
Afternoon tea: 332 (also includes vegetarian), 426 (GFML), 813 (Muslim)
Dinner: 456, 551 (also includes VLML), 666, 1004,
1278
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Long Band (e.g. Lisbon, Rome, Warsaw, Stockholm).
Breakfast: 195 (vegetarian)
Rest of the day: 306 (LFML), 345, 427, 443, 468, 597, 676, 687, 695, 783 (VLML)
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NOT MAINTAINED AND OUT OF DATE: The complete Short Haul meal structure for the longer flights as of October 2017 is:
LHR
Meal 1: Chicken / red pepper risotto
Meal 2: Beef cheek
Meal 3: Chicken supreme / gnocchi
Meal 4: Miso glazed cod
Meal 5: Chicken khao soi
Meal 6: Hot smoked salmon linguine
LGW
Meal 1: Thyme roasted chicken
Meal 2: Spicy corn and paneer masala
Meal 3: Thai Penang chicken curry
Meal 4: Roasted red pepper tortellini
Meal 5: Beef and mushroom caserole
Meal 6: Tomato and four cheeses tortellini
Structured into:
Rotation A
LHR outbound
Meal 3
Meal 4
inbound to LHR
Meal 5
Meal 6
Rotation B
LHR outbound
Meal 5
Meal 6
inbound to LHR
Meal 1
Meal 2
Rotation C
LHR outbound
Meal 1
Meal 2
inbound to LHR
Meal 3
Meal 4
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October 2017 = Rotation C
November 2017 = Rotation A
December 2017 = Rotation B
January 2018 = Rotation C
etc
This thread outlines the new arrangements for Club Europe catering, introduced on Sunday 26 March 2017 and due to end on Tuesday 11 September 2018, based on 3 zones. A new Club Europe catering product is due to be launch on Wednesday 12 September 2018, and this is based on 4 bands. The main information piece - in terms of timings and the distance zones for the meals can be found in post 1. The following cross references the photos below against the matrix of options. In addition to the photos, some FTers have written extensively on their experiences so there is more to this thread than the pictures. Also note that there was an increase in food offered on some combinations shortly after the start-up, so the more recent photos may be the best place to start.The previous shorthaul catering guide, now locked but which had the previous 4 band system, is to be found here.
Numbers relate to the post number. Vegetarian means the alternative option provided as standard rather than the pre-ordered versions - which are VLML (Lacto-ovo), AVML (Asia) and VGML (Vegan) . There are differences between the offering in/out of LHR, LGW, LCY+STN. Last update: 833
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Note posts before 1-832 are typically the April 2017 menu. 833 and above is from the menu for May 2017.
----
Chef's Chat sheets for:
CE LHR Summer 2017 - Rotation A
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28338151-post954.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28339641-post958.html
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Short Band (UK, France, Ireland, BeNeLux, Germany)
Breakfast: 279, 570 (vegetarian), 629, 674, 821 (Express breakfast for MAN and LBA), 1343 (Vegan), 2285 (Express for LBA and MAN), 2445
Brunch: 180, 289, 469, 563, 685, 716, 2625 (AVML)
Lunch: 207, 545 (diabetic), 644 (first photo), 680 (VLML), 802, 928, 1322 (Kosher), 2284
Afternoon tea: 339, 404 (vegetarian), 480, 600 (VLML), 710 (including low lactose), 800, 882 (gluten free), 1281, 1322 (Kosher), 1673, 2679 (Kosher), 2792
Dinner: 563, 630 (VGML), 669 (Kosher Passover), 771 (VGML LCY) 799, 819 (AVML), 833 (May 2017 menu), 1283, 1287, 1674, 2446, 2616 (Kosher), 2793
Comments on difference between AVML and VLML here.
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Medium Band (e.g. Madrid, Nice, Prague, Copenhagen)
Breakfast: 645 (vegetarian), 724 (vegetarian), 1003
Brunch: 199 (VLML), 600 (VLML), 659 (Kosher Passover)
Lunch: 239 (child), 251, 425, 641, 733
Afternoon tea: 332 (also includes vegetarian), 426 (GFML), 813 (Muslim)
Dinner: 456, 551 (also includes VLML), 666, 1004,
1278
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Long Band (e.g. Lisbon, Rome, Warsaw, Stockholm).
Breakfast: 195 (vegetarian)
Rest of the day: 306 (LFML), 345, 427, 443, 468, 597, 676, 687, 695, 783 (VLML)
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NOT MAINTAINED AND OUT OF DATE: The complete Short Haul meal structure for the longer flights as of October 2017 is:
LHR
Meal 1: Chicken / red pepper risotto
Meal 2: Beef cheek
Meal 3: Chicken supreme / gnocchi
Meal 4: Miso glazed cod
Meal 5: Chicken khao soi
Meal 6: Hot smoked salmon linguine
LGW
Meal 1: Thyme roasted chicken
Meal 2: Spicy corn and paneer masala
Meal 3: Thai Penang chicken curry
Meal 4: Roasted red pepper tortellini
Meal 5: Beef and mushroom caserole
Meal 6: Tomato and four cheeses tortellini
Structured into:
Rotation A
LHR outbound
Meal 3
Meal 4
inbound to LHR
Meal 5
Meal 6
Rotation B
LHR outbound
Meal 5
Meal 6
inbound to LHR
Meal 1
Meal 2
Rotation C
LHR outbound
Meal 1
Meal 2
inbound to LHR
Meal 3
Meal 4
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October 2017 = Rotation C
November 2017 = Rotation A
December 2017 = Rotation B
January 2018 = Rotation C
etc
Club Europe catering guide
Mar 26, 2017, 2:57 am
#166
Join Date: Apr 2011
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 113
Unless significant crew training is done, which it won't be, the crew will not be floating up and down the cabin proactively offering top ups, and where it used to be easy to flag them down for another 'mini bottle' it will be impossible now - note that they say new crockery, but glasses staying the same..
As with anything Cruz has done this will all be about saving money and giving you less.
Mar 26, 2017, 3:17 am
#167
Ambassador, British Airways Executive Club, easyJet and Ryanair
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Location: UK/Las Vegas
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I mentioned a bit further up that I fully expect to be sitting with an empty glass for most of the flight on my next CE flight.
Unless significant crew training is done, which it won't be, the crew will not be floating up and down the cabin proactively offering top ups, and where it used to be easy to flag them down for another 'mini bottle' it will be impossible now - note that they say new crockery, but glasses staying the same..
As with anything Cruz has done this will all be about saving money and giving you less.
Unless significant crew training is done, which it won't be, the crew will not be floating up and down the cabin proactively offering top ups, and where it used to be easy to flag them down for another 'mini bottle' it will be impossible now - note that they say new crockery, but glasses staying the same..
As with anything Cruz has done this will all be about saving money and giving you less.
As for your last comment, you can't argue with that. Sr Cruz has made it very clear what his modus operandi is. He's as good as said it himself.
Mar 26, 2017, 3:41 am
#168
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Lewes
Programs: HiltonH. Gold Starwood Gold BA BLUES! Mucci.
Posts: 4,833
We know what senor Cruz's thoughts are. We are better informed than most BA flyers and can still maximise the experience.
The people I feel sorry for are those that have little choice as they have to use Heathrow or those that last flew BA a few years ago and have certain expectations.
I use BA City flyer more and more because it is still a good product....
The people I feel sorry for are those that have little choice as they have to use Heathrow or those that last flew BA a few years ago and have certain expectations.
I use BA City flyer more and more because it is still a good product....
Mar 26, 2017, 4:17 am
#169
Join Date: Mar 2017
Programs: BAEC Bronze
Posts: 388
The wheels have just touched the tarmac! So obviously thoughts turn to what i had for breakfast... (MLA)
will post pictures shortly...
Champagne now served out of a large bottle
Meat eaters had English breakfast (eggs, sausage, bacon)
My veggie option was a cheese fritata
will post pictures shortly...
Champagne now served out of a large bottle
Meat eaters had English breakfast (eggs, sausage, bacon)
My veggie option was a cheese fritata
Mar 26, 2017, 4:18 am
#170
Join Date: Mar 2017
Programs: BAEC Bronze
Posts: 388
Any hints and tips on how to upload pictures from my mobile? 
Btw, no fruit salad
Btw, no fruit salad
Mar 26, 2017, 4:23 am
#171
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Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: somewhere north of London, UK
Programs: HH Gold, BA Silver, Accor Silver
Posts: 15,245
Just thought of the classy solution. Get them to fill the coffee mug up with champagne. And the glass itself while they're at it. 
Mar 26, 2017, 4:51 am
#173
Join Date: Mar 2017
Programs: BAEC Bronze
Posts: 388
Hopefully you can now see pictures here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/members/ilikepancakes-albums-lgw-mla-ce-20170326.html
Thanks lost_in_translation!
Yes, still castelnau
Thanks lost_in_translation!
Yes, still castelnau
Mar 26, 2017, 4:52 am
#174
Suspended
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Location: London
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Posts: 8,278
Hopefully you can now see pictures here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/membe...-20170326.html
Thanks lost_in_translation!
Yes, still castelnau
Thanks lost_in_translation!
Yes, still castelnau
Mar 26, 2017, 4:58 am
#175
Join Date: Sep 2013
Programs: BAEC Gold, EK Skywards (enhanced Blue !), Oman Air Sindbad Gold
Posts: 6,395
Thanks for the pics !
Would you say the coffee was hot ?
Would you say the coffee was hot ?
Mar 26, 2017, 4:59 am
#176
Moderator, Iberia Airlines, Airport Lounges, and Ambassador, British Airways Executive Club
Join Date: Feb 2010
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Posts: 63,732
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trave...phy-forum.html
And there is another sticky guide in the Trip Report area.
But if all else fails, just PM me and I can do it for you.
Mar 26, 2017, 5:08 am
#177
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 11,547
Mouthwatering...
At least the dire thimble mug is gone, but I presume its still standard BA super brew?
At least the dire thimble mug is gone, but I presume its still standard BA super brew?
Mar 26, 2017, 5:12 am
#178
Join Date: May 2009
Location: London
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 2,739
Hopefully you can now see pictures here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/membe...-20170326.html
Thanks lost_in_translation!
Yes, still castelnau
Thanks lost_in_translation!
Yes, still castelnau
I used to like the old cups tho...
Mar 26, 2017, 5:14 am
#179
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Lewes
Programs: HiltonH. Gold Starwood Gold BA BLUES! Mucci.
Posts: 4,833
Looks vile, and no fruit plate?
Coffee better in economy now!!
Coffee better in economy now!!
Mar 26, 2017, 5:19 am
#180
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Dublin, Ireland
Programs: BA Gold, Mucci
Posts: 2,065
Here is the brunch on a LYS which I believe is classed as short. I asked for and received both meals.
The mug didn't come with the tray either time, it was only when I requested green tea that I was given a mug. It kinda makes sense.
THERE IS A BREAD PLATE! Hallelujah!
The hot sandwich is quite substantial really, so it will be good if one is hungry at brunch time. I also would recommend the cold option though it is quite similar to the previous cold option. It doesn't look like much.
They offered bread with the cold option and no bread was offered with the sandwich, which makes sense. The crew said to me he wasn't sure he was doing it right as it was day 1.
Anyway, I'm in the Flounge right now and I'm off to Dublin at 13:20 so I'll report back with some pictures of the lunch offering too. I'll see if I can snag two lots again :P
The mug didn't come with the tray either time, it was only when I requested green tea that I was given a mug. It kinda makes sense.
THERE IS A BREAD PLATE! Hallelujah!
The hot sandwich is quite substantial really, so it will be good if one is hungry at brunch time. I also would recommend the cold option though it is quite similar to the previous cold option. It doesn't look like much.
They offered bread with the cold option and no bread was offered with the sandwich, which makes sense. The crew said to me he wasn't sure he was doing it right as it was day 1.
Anyway, I'm in the Flounge right now and I'm off to Dublin at 13:20 so I'll report back with some pictures of the lunch offering too. I'll see if I can snag two lots again :P
Last edited by FlightDetective; Nov 18, 2017 at 4:31 am Reason: Picture links changed, so uploaded and fixed. Twice.