Apr 16, 2017, 1:12 pm
Last edit by: corporate-wage-slave
Club Europe Catering Guide 2017.
This thread outlines the new arrangements for Club Europe catering, introduced on Sunday 26 March 2017 and due to end on Tuesday 11 September 2018, based on 3 zones. A new Club Europe catering product is due to be launch on Wednesday 12 September 2018, and this is based on 4 bands. The main information piece - in terms of timings and the distance zones for the meals can be found in post 1. The following cross references the photos below against the matrix of options. In addition to the photos, some FTers have written extensively on their experiences so there is more to this thread than the pictures. Also note that there was an increase in food offered on some combinations shortly after the start-up, so the more recent photos may be the best place to start.The previous shorthaul catering guide, now locked but which had the previous 4 band system, is to be found here.
Numbers relate to the post number. Vegetarian means the alternative option provided as standard rather than the pre-ordered versions - which are VLML (Lacto-ovo), AVML (Asia) and VGML (Vegan) . There are differences between the offering in/out of LHR, LGW, LCY+STN. Last update: 833
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Note posts before 1-832 are typically the April 2017 menu. 833 and above is from the menu for May 2017.
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Chef's Chat sheets for:
CE LHR Summer 2017 - Rotation A
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28338151-post954.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28339641-post958.html
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Short Band (UK, France, Ireland, BeNeLux, Germany)
Breakfast: 279, 570 (vegetarian), 629, 674, 821 (Express breakfast for MAN and LBA), 1343 (Vegan), 2285 (Express for LBA and MAN), 2445
Brunch: 180, 289, 469, 563, 685, 716, 2625 (AVML)
Lunch: 207, 545 (diabetic), 644 (first photo), 680 (VLML), 802, 928, 1322 (Kosher), 2284
Afternoon tea: 339, 404 (vegetarian), 480, 600 (VLML), 710 (including low lactose), 800, 882 (gluten free), 1281, 1322 (Kosher), 1673, 2679 (Kosher), 2792
Dinner: 563, 630 (VGML), 669 (Kosher Passover), 771 (VGML LCY) 799, 819 (AVML), 833 (May 2017 menu), 1283, 1287, 1674, 2446, 2616 (Kosher), 2793
Comments on difference between AVML and VLML here.
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Medium Band (e.g. Madrid, Nice, Prague, Copenhagen)
Breakfast: 645 (vegetarian), 724 (vegetarian), 1003
Brunch: 199 (VLML), 600 (VLML), 659 (Kosher Passover)
Lunch: 239 (child), 251, 425, 641, 733
Afternoon tea: 332 (also includes vegetarian), 426 (GFML), 813 (Muslim)
Dinner: 456, 551 (also includes VLML), 666, 1004,
1278
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Long Band (e.g. Lisbon, Rome, Warsaw, Stockholm).
Breakfast: 195 (vegetarian)
Rest of the day: 306 (LFML), 345, 427, 443, 468, 597, 676, 687, 695, 783 (VLML)
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NOT MAINTAINED AND OUT OF DATE: The complete Short Haul meal structure for the longer flights as of October 2017 is:
LHR
Meal 1: Chicken / red pepper risotto
Meal 2: Beef cheek
Meal 3: Chicken supreme / gnocchi
Meal 4: Miso glazed cod
Meal 5: Chicken khao soi
Meal 6: Hot smoked salmon linguine
LGW
Meal 1: Thyme roasted chicken
Meal 2: Spicy corn and paneer masala
Meal 3: Thai Penang chicken curry
Meal 4: Roasted red pepper tortellini
Meal 5: Beef and mushroom caserole
Meal 6: Tomato and four cheeses tortellini
Structured into:
Rotation A
LHR outbound
Meal 3
Meal 4
inbound to LHR
Meal 5
Meal 6
Rotation B
LHR outbound
Meal 5
Meal 6
inbound to LHR
Meal 1
Meal 2
Rotation C
LHR outbound
Meal 1
Meal 2
inbound to LHR
Meal 3
Meal 4
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October 2017 = Rotation C
November 2017 = Rotation A
December 2017 = Rotation B
January 2018 = Rotation C
etc
This thread outlines the new arrangements for Club Europe catering, introduced on Sunday 26 March 2017 and due to end on Tuesday 11 September 2018, based on 3 zones. A new Club Europe catering product is due to be launch on Wednesday 12 September 2018, and this is based on 4 bands. The main information piece - in terms of timings and the distance zones for the meals can be found in post 1. The following cross references the photos below against the matrix of options. In addition to the photos, some FTers have written extensively on their experiences so there is more to this thread than the pictures. Also note that there was an increase in food offered on some combinations shortly after the start-up, so the more recent photos may be the best place to start.The previous shorthaul catering guide, now locked but which had the previous 4 band system, is to be found here.
Numbers relate to the post number. Vegetarian means the alternative option provided as standard rather than the pre-ordered versions - which are VLML (Lacto-ovo), AVML (Asia) and VGML (Vegan) . There are differences between the offering in/out of LHR, LGW, LCY+STN. Last update: 833
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Note posts before 1-832 are typically the April 2017 menu. 833 and above is from the menu for May 2017.
----
Chef's Chat sheets for:
CE LHR Summer 2017 - Rotation A
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28338151-post954.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28339641-post958.html
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Short Band (UK, France, Ireland, BeNeLux, Germany)
Breakfast: 279, 570 (vegetarian), 629, 674, 821 (Express breakfast for MAN and LBA), 1343 (Vegan), 2285 (Express for LBA and MAN), 2445
Brunch: 180, 289, 469, 563, 685, 716, 2625 (AVML)
Lunch: 207, 545 (diabetic), 644 (first photo), 680 (VLML), 802, 928, 1322 (Kosher), 2284
Afternoon tea: 339, 404 (vegetarian), 480, 600 (VLML), 710 (including low lactose), 800, 882 (gluten free), 1281, 1322 (Kosher), 1673, 2679 (Kosher), 2792
Dinner: 563, 630 (VGML), 669 (Kosher Passover), 771 (VGML LCY) 799, 819 (AVML), 833 (May 2017 menu), 1283, 1287, 1674, 2446, 2616 (Kosher), 2793
Comments on difference between AVML and VLML here.
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Medium Band (e.g. Madrid, Nice, Prague, Copenhagen)
Breakfast: 645 (vegetarian), 724 (vegetarian), 1003
Brunch: 199 (VLML), 600 (VLML), 659 (Kosher Passover)
Lunch: 239 (child), 251, 425, 641, 733
Afternoon tea: 332 (also includes vegetarian), 426 (GFML), 813 (Muslim)
Dinner: 456, 551 (also includes VLML), 666, 1004,
1278
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Long Band (e.g. Lisbon, Rome, Warsaw, Stockholm).
Breakfast: 195 (vegetarian)
Rest of the day: 306 (LFML), 345, 427, 443, 468, 597, 676, 687, 695, 783 (VLML)
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NOT MAINTAINED AND OUT OF DATE: The complete Short Haul meal structure for the longer flights as of October 2017 is:
LHR
Meal 1: Chicken / red pepper risotto
Meal 2: Beef cheek
Meal 3: Chicken supreme / gnocchi
Meal 4: Miso glazed cod
Meal 5: Chicken khao soi
Meal 6: Hot smoked salmon linguine
LGW
Meal 1: Thyme roasted chicken
Meal 2: Spicy corn and paneer masala
Meal 3: Thai Penang chicken curry
Meal 4: Roasted red pepper tortellini
Meal 5: Beef and mushroom caserole
Meal 6: Tomato and four cheeses tortellini
Structured into:
Rotation A
LHR outbound
Meal 3
Meal 4
inbound to LHR
Meal 5
Meal 6
Rotation B
LHR outbound
Meal 5
Meal 6
inbound to LHR
Meal 1
Meal 2
Rotation C
LHR outbound
Meal 1
Meal 2
inbound to LHR
Meal 3
Meal 4
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October 2017 = Rotation C
November 2017 = Rotation A
December 2017 = Rotation B
January 2018 = Rotation C
etc
Club Europe catering guide
Jul 9, 2017, 7:47 pm
#1201
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Yes, hot English Breakfast or its vegetarian equivalent. The wiki will help you find some photos (and the Chef's Chat links will be largely correct since breakfast isn't subject to Rotations).
Jul 10, 2017, 7:32 am
#1202
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Yes slightly odd, but rather than replace the non-coronation chicken part of the coronation chicken, they should simply add some more salad to the plate.
Jul 10, 2017, 7:34 am
#1203
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Mostly there are two. Since the wonderful AA meal tray consists of a salad with some gloopy sickly sweet dressing, a main which is (in my case) hit or miss, and a bit of sweet. This all comes on one tray most of the time. The service is far less complex.
What is surprising - most surprising indeed - is that in spite of everything that I read here, CE seems to be doing extremely well in terms of numbers. In terms of yield I would not like to say as I have no facts, but coming down to ALC there other night, there were 36 in CE. That is a big cabin for 2 to handle.
Actually, in my experience, 3 in such circumstances does not help as there is one aisle and people would be in each other's way. FWIW, I think that the new service is excellent on both Long and Medium.
What is surprising - most surprising indeed - is that in spite of everything that I read here, CE seems to be doing extremely well in terms of numbers. In terms of yield I would not like to say as I have no facts, but coming down to ALC there other night, there were 36 in CE. That is a big cabin for 2 to handle.
Actually, in my experience, 3 in such circumstances does not help as there is one aisle and people would be in each other's way. FWIW, I think that the new service is excellent on both Long and Medium.
Jul 10, 2017, 8:45 am
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Interesting that you should say that. Having vowed to go on price alone on my regular LHR-VIE rotations, and therefore using OS rather than BA if they are cheaper, my last three trips have been on BA, precisely because their CE fares were significantly cheaper than OS.
Jul 10, 2017, 9:07 am
#1205
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BA may be better with formality and polish but the regimented British mentality of service generally leads to less flexibility to get a complex service done quickly - and that's why I think we are seeing reports of incredibly slow service on the CE long flights and why many FAs struggle with CW service.
Jul 10, 2017, 3:47 pm
#1206
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BA861 PRG-LHR 1715 Departure - 'definitely' worth going club...??? Are the offerings getting less...? This was literally it aside from drink of course. I thought CE was getting improvements?
Jul 10, 2017, 4:09 pm
#1207
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Flew back up to NCL from LHR tonight, was pleasantly surprised by the delicious chicken and potato salad plus the equally good cheesecake. Was going to go for the panini but glad I swerved it after seeing the drab offering that the chap in front got served.
Jul 10, 2017, 4:22 pm
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PRG is one of the big losers from the 'improvements' unfortunately (along with CPH, OSL, MAD, VIE, amongst others).
Jul 10, 2017, 5:08 pm
#1209
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Assume TLS is in the same boat from the panini my other half was served last week. Yet the meal on a GLA-LCY I had (pleasant lounge beep UG ^) was far superior for a similar duration flight - seems a bit random!
Jul 11, 2017, 2:31 am
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Jul 11, 2017, 9:48 am
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Ex-LGW, 'long' band CE breakfast flight, (big-bottle) champagne ran out after the first glass.
"They don't load as many bottles anymore"
Happy days.
"They don't load as many bottles anymore"
Happy days.
Jul 11, 2017, 10:04 am
#1212
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LHR-GOT Medium route
Taco-Bell-like sandwich for dinner. Offered more bread with the bread...
Ugh...
Taco-Bell-like sandwich for dinner. Offered more bread with the bread...
Ugh...
Jul 11, 2017, 10:09 am
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Jul 11, 2017, 10:25 am
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Ex-LGW, 'long' band CE breakfast flight, (big-bottle) champagne ran out after the first glass.
"They don't load as many bottles anymore"
Happy days.
"They don't load as many bottles anymore"
Happy days.
I found it rather odd on my flight last night in which it was that or the chicken salad, that the passnegers that went with the panini were offered bread, but us chicken salad types were not?
Jul 11, 2017, 10:32 am
#1215
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I had the Coronation Chicken Salad on my MUC-LHR flight earlier this week. I just don't understand it.
Coronation chicken, more (extra dry) grilled chicken, a couple of whisps of frisee lettuce, and one cherry tomato cut in half.
If they're going to call it a salad, make it a salad. More salad and ditch the extra dry grilled chicken.
It was weird!
Coronation chicken, more (extra dry) grilled chicken, a couple of whisps of frisee lettuce, and one cherry tomato cut in half.
If they're going to call it a salad, make it a salad. More salad and ditch the extra dry grilled chicken.
It was weird!
Dessert was tasty though.
