Apr 16, 2017, 1:12 pm
Last edit by: corporate-wage-slave
Club Europe Catering Guide 2017.
This thread outlines the new arrangements for Club Europe catering, introduced on Sunday 26 March 2017 and due to end on Tuesday 11 September 2018, based on 3 zones. A new Club Europe catering product is due to be launch on Wednesday 12 September 2018, and this is based on 4 bands. The main information piece - in terms of timings and the distance zones for the meals can be found in post 1. The following cross references the photos below against the matrix of options. In addition to the photos, some FTers have written extensively on their experiences so there is more to this thread than the pictures. Also note that there was an increase in food offered on some combinations shortly after the start-up, so the more recent photos may be the best place to start.The previous shorthaul catering guide, now locked but which had the previous 4 band system, is to be found here.
Numbers relate to the post number. Vegetarian means the alternative option provided as standard rather than the pre-ordered versions - which are VLML (Lacto-ovo), AVML (Asia) and VGML (Vegan) . There are differences between the offering in/out of LHR, LGW, LCY+STN. Last update: 833
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Note posts before 1-832 are typically the April 2017 menu. 833 and above is from the menu for May 2017.
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Chef's Chat sheets for:
CE LHR Summer 2017 - Rotation A
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28338151-post954.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28339641-post958.html
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Short Band (UK, France, Ireland, BeNeLux, Germany)
Breakfast: 279, 570 (vegetarian), 629, 674, 821 (Express breakfast for MAN and LBA), 1343 (Vegan), 2285 (Express for LBA and MAN), 2445
Brunch: 180, 289, 469, 563, 685, 716, 2625 (AVML)
Lunch: 207, 545 (diabetic), 644 (first photo), 680 (VLML), 802, 928, 1322 (Kosher), 2284
Afternoon tea: 339, 404 (vegetarian), 480, 600 (VLML), 710 (including low lactose), 800, 882 (gluten free), 1281, 1322 (Kosher), 1673, 2679 (Kosher), 2792
Dinner: 563, 630 (VGML), 669 (Kosher Passover), 771 (VGML LCY) 799, 819 (AVML), 833 (May 2017 menu), 1283, 1287, 1674, 2446, 2616 (Kosher), 2793
Comments on difference between AVML and VLML here.
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Medium Band (e.g. Madrid, Nice, Prague, Copenhagen)
Breakfast: 645 (vegetarian), 724 (vegetarian), 1003
Brunch: 199 (VLML), 600 (VLML), 659 (Kosher Passover)
Lunch: 239 (child), 251, 425, 641, 733
Afternoon tea: 332 (also includes vegetarian), 426 (GFML), 813 (Muslim)
Dinner: 456, 551 (also includes VLML), 666, 1004,
1278
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Long Band (e.g. Lisbon, Rome, Warsaw, Stockholm).
Breakfast: 195 (vegetarian)
Rest of the day: 306 (LFML), 345, 427, 443, 468, 597, 676, 687, 695, 783 (VLML)
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NOT MAINTAINED AND OUT OF DATE: The complete Short Haul meal structure for the longer flights as of October 2017 is:
LHR
Meal 1: Chicken / red pepper risotto
Meal 2: Beef cheek
Meal 3: Chicken supreme / gnocchi
Meal 4: Miso glazed cod
Meal 5: Chicken khao soi
Meal 6: Hot smoked salmon linguine
LGW
Meal 1: Thyme roasted chicken
Meal 2: Spicy corn and paneer masala
Meal 3: Thai Penang chicken curry
Meal 4: Roasted red pepper tortellini
Meal 5: Beef and mushroom caserole
Meal 6: Tomato and four cheeses tortellini
Structured into:
Rotation A
LHR outbound
Meal 3
Meal 4
inbound to LHR
Meal 5
Meal 6
Rotation B
LHR outbound
Meal 5
Meal 6
inbound to LHR
Meal 1
Meal 2
Rotation C
LHR outbound
Meal 1
Meal 2
inbound to LHR
Meal 3
Meal 4
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October 2017 = Rotation C
November 2017 = Rotation A
December 2017 = Rotation B
January 2018 = Rotation C
etc
This thread outlines the new arrangements for Club Europe catering, introduced on Sunday 26 March 2017 and due to end on Tuesday 11 September 2018, based on 3 zones. A new Club Europe catering product is due to be launch on Wednesday 12 September 2018, and this is based on 4 bands. The main information piece - in terms of timings and the distance zones for the meals can be found in post 1. The following cross references the photos below against the matrix of options. In addition to the photos, some FTers have written extensively on their experiences so there is more to this thread than the pictures. Also note that there was an increase in food offered on some combinations shortly after the start-up, so the more recent photos may be the best place to start.The previous shorthaul catering guide, now locked but which had the previous 4 band system, is to be found here.
Numbers relate to the post number. Vegetarian means the alternative option provided as standard rather than the pre-ordered versions - which are VLML (Lacto-ovo), AVML (Asia) and VGML (Vegan) . There are differences between the offering in/out of LHR, LGW, LCY+STN. Last update: 833
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Note posts before 1-832 are typically the April 2017 menu. 833 and above is from the menu for May 2017.
----
Chef's Chat sheets for:
CE LHR Summer 2017 - Rotation A
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28338151-post954.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28339641-post958.html
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Short Band (UK, France, Ireland, BeNeLux, Germany)
Breakfast: 279, 570 (vegetarian), 629, 674, 821 (Express breakfast for MAN and LBA), 1343 (Vegan), 2285 (Express for LBA and MAN), 2445
Brunch: 180, 289, 469, 563, 685, 716, 2625 (AVML)
Lunch: 207, 545 (diabetic), 644 (first photo), 680 (VLML), 802, 928, 1322 (Kosher), 2284
Afternoon tea: 339, 404 (vegetarian), 480, 600 (VLML), 710 (including low lactose), 800, 882 (gluten free), 1281, 1322 (Kosher), 1673, 2679 (Kosher), 2792
Dinner: 563, 630 (VGML), 669 (Kosher Passover), 771 (VGML LCY) 799, 819 (AVML), 833 (May 2017 menu), 1283, 1287, 1674, 2446, 2616 (Kosher), 2793
Comments on difference between AVML and VLML here.
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Medium Band (e.g. Madrid, Nice, Prague, Copenhagen)
Breakfast: 645 (vegetarian), 724 (vegetarian), 1003
Brunch: 199 (VLML), 600 (VLML), 659 (Kosher Passover)
Lunch: 239 (child), 251, 425, 641, 733
Afternoon tea: 332 (also includes vegetarian), 426 (GFML), 813 (Muslim)
Dinner: 456, 551 (also includes VLML), 666, 1004,
1278
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Long Band (e.g. Lisbon, Rome, Warsaw, Stockholm).
Breakfast: 195 (vegetarian)
Rest of the day: 306 (LFML), 345, 427, 443, 468, 597, 676, 687, 695, 783 (VLML)
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NOT MAINTAINED AND OUT OF DATE: The complete Short Haul meal structure for the longer flights as of October 2017 is:
LHR
Meal 1: Chicken / red pepper risotto
Meal 2: Beef cheek
Meal 3: Chicken supreme / gnocchi
Meal 4: Miso glazed cod
Meal 5: Chicken khao soi
Meal 6: Hot smoked salmon linguine
LGW
Meal 1: Thyme roasted chicken
Meal 2: Spicy corn and paneer masala
Meal 3: Thai Penang chicken curry
Meal 4: Roasted red pepper tortellini
Meal 5: Beef and mushroom caserole
Meal 6: Tomato and four cheeses tortellini
Structured into:
Rotation A
LHR outbound
Meal 3
Meal 4
inbound to LHR
Meal 5
Meal 6
Rotation B
LHR outbound
Meal 5
Meal 6
inbound to LHR
Meal 1
Meal 2
Rotation C
LHR outbound
Meal 1
Meal 2
inbound to LHR
Meal 3
Meal 4
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October 2017 = Rotation C
November 2017 = Rotation A
December 2017 = Rotation B
January 2018 = Rotation C
etc
Club Europe catering guide
May 1, 2017, 4:21 am
#826
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 7
4 hour flight
How many meals get served on a 4 hour flight? Is it always just one on Europe flights?
May 1, 2017, 4:22 am
#827
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Yes only one, are there any airlines that would service more than that, I would be very surprised if there were?
May 1, 2017, 9:29 am
#828
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Yes, i had two meals service on a flight of 2:15 minutes. Granted this was a bit special as it is one of those first flight with a technical stop, but nevertheless.
May 1, 2017, 10:12 am
#829
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Not on any 4 hour segment that I know of, although you could 'make it' two meals on some flights that have dine on demand in J (e.g. QR etc). Some airlines do have a second drinks service though.
May 1, 2017, 1:28 pm
#830
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: London
Programs: BA Gold, Eurostar Carte Blanche
Posts: 712
AAmerican Eagle served a trayset lunch + a snack basket round on my SAT-ORD at the beginning of the month. Blocked at 2:45ish...
May 1, 2017, 3:16 pm
#832
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No I'm not sure, I certainly don't have access to the relevant contracts and what I provide here is often second or even third hand. But the way it was explained to me was that the food menu involved a lot of 3 way co-ordination between BA, M&S and Tourvest. For the drinks it was largely left to Tourvest to sort out. Could Seńor Cruz ensure Gordons was sold on his aircraft? I would certainly hope so, if he was so minded.
May 1, 2017, 3:58 pm
#833
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It turns out that there is a monthly rotation involved.
This is the NCL - LHR in CE, 1 May 2017, so a short evening meal (lunch would be the same) - salad option, not pre ordered.
So this is a duck salad (yes, I checked with the crew), on slaw garni with walnut pieces. The cheese is now accompanied with mango chutney (less certain). The dessert has gone from a somewhat insipid panna cotta to a very rich chocolate mousse top with a dark chocolate topping. It's very rich, I couldn't eat two. This replaces the previous chicken and prawn salad, see post 733 for an example.
And yes, I did send that cup of tea back for a replacement.
There's also been a change on the panino front. Or rather former panino: it's now a hot flatbread, not cut in half, but folded over the contents. It's at least 50% bigger than the previous version. The NCL filling was chicken Caesar salad. No photo I'm afraid. Still served with the potato salad side dish, and with the chocolate dessert.
This is the NCL - LHR in CE, 1 May 2017, so a short evening meal (lunch would be the same) - salad option, not pre ordered.
So this is a duck salad (yes, I checked with the crew), on slaw garni with walnut pieces. The cheese is now accompanied with mango chutney (less certain). The dessert has gone from a somewhat insipid panna cotta to a very rich chocolate mousse top with a dark chocolate topping. It's very rich, I couldn't eat two. This replaces the previous chicken and prawn salad, see post 733 for an example.
And yes, I did send that cup of tea back for a replacement.
There's also been a change on the panino front. Or rather former panino: it's now a hot flatbread, not cut in half, but folded over the contents. It's at least 50% bigger than the previous version. The NCL filling was chicken Caesar salad. No photo I'm afraid. Still served with the potato salad side dish, and with the chocolate dessert.
May 1, 2017, 4:22 pm
#834
Join Date: Apr 2017
Programs: BAEC Gold, Marriott Gold, HH Silver
Posts: 16
Hello C-W-S and thank you for the NCL-LHR update. I'm on that route too most weeks so i'm looking forward to the new menu rotation on Wednesday night.. I was never 100% sold on the strange panacotta(?) thingy - never stopped me eating it though!
May 2, 2017, 4:16 am
#835
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: London
Posts: 6,265
Lunch ex GVA May 01
Chicken flatbread, other choice was a salad.
Flatbread very doughy, chicken felt low quality but was well spiced.
Chicken flatbread, other choice was a salad.
Flatbread very doughy, chicken felt low quality but was well spiced.
May 2, 2017, 4:42 am
#836
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: London
Programs: BA Silver
Posts: 243
It turns out that there is a monthly rotation involved.
This is the NCL - LHR in CE, 1 May 2017, so a short evening meal (lunch would be the same) - salad option, not pre ordered.
So this is a duck salad (yes, I checked with the crew), on slaw garni with walnut pieces. The cheese is now accompanied with mango chutney (less certain). The dessert has gone from a somewhat insipid panna cotta to a very rich chocolate mousse top with a dark chocolate topping. It's very rich, I couldn't eat two. This replaces the previous chicken and prawn salad, see post 733 for an example.
And yes, I did send that cup of tea back for a replacement.
There's also been a change on the panino front. Or rather former panino: it's now a hot flatbread, not cut in half, but folded over the contents. It's at least 50% bigger than the previous version. The NCL filling was chicken Caesar salad. No photo I'm afraid. Still served with the potato salad side dish, and with the chocolate dessert.
This is the NCL - LHR in CE, 1 May 2017, so a short evening meal (lunch would be the same) - salad option, not pre ordered.
So this is a duck salad (yes, I checked with the crew), on slaw garni with walnut pieces. The cheese is now accompanied with mango chutney (less certain). The dessert has gone from a somewhat insipid panna cotta to a very rich chocolate mousse top with a dark chocolate topping. It's very rich, I couldn't eat two. This replaces the previous chicken and prawn salad, see post 733 for an example.
And yes, I did send that cup of tea back for a replacement.
There's also been a change on the panino front. Or rather former panino: it's now a hot flatbread, not cut in half, but folded over the contents. It's at least 50% bigger than the previous version. The NCL filling was chicken Caesar salad. No photo I'm afraid. Still served with the potato salad side dish, and with the chocolate dessert.
No pictures I'm afraid but the main courses were a red chicken curry (simple but tasty, generous portion too) or hot smoked salmon (which my partner had, highly rated). This was accompanied by two bread runs, cheddar and the mango chutney (as above) and chocolate orange cake. We're regulars on LHR-ATH and whilst we had no previous complaints with the catering on this route, it's a definite improvement in terms of quantity and quality.
The only slight drawback was that the service (majority by hand) was slow as we had an 8 row/36 pax CE Cabin. It was a good 2.5 hours from start to finish (tray clear in) to complete the service.
May 2, 2017, 6:50 am
#837
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Long breakfast (LHR-TLL).
So no fruit plate here. The small pot at the back was yoghurt with banana compote.
So no fruit plate here. The small pot at the back was yoghurt with banana compote.
May 2, 2017, 7:13 am
#838
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MAY 2017 - Long "rest of the day" meals - to and from London
I'll do a separate post on this in due course, but I think we can work out the system. Suffice to say this is known as Rotation A and covers the Long service meals (so apart from breakfast) for the rest of this month, for the flight numbers listed under the menu options.
Out from LHR on the left, return to LHR on the right.
For outbound from LHR (chicken supreme or cod) - this was the inbound service in April, otherwise known as Rotation C.
Previous pictures here:
Chicken: see post 427
Cod: see post 345.
For the inbound to LHR (chicken khao soi and salmon) I imagine the photos will come in very shortly.
The drink menu is unchanged
.
So in short, there are Rotations A, B and C, meals shuffle between the rotations on a monthly basis with swaps between inbound and outbound between these months. LGW has slight difference I think since there is an ALC meal in the wiki which doesn't fit into this, but it may be Rotation B.
The starter for inbound to London (duck breast) is the main salad on the short menus at least.
I'll do a separate post on this in due course, but I think we can work out the system. Suffice to say this is known as Rotation A and covers the Long service meals (so apart from breakfast) for the rest of this month, for the flight numbers listed under the menu options.
Out from LHR on the left, return to LHR on the right.
For outbound from LHR (chicken supreme or cod) - this was the inbound service in April, otherwise known as Rotation C.
Previous pictures here:
Chicken: see post 427
Cod: see post 345.
For the inbound to LHR (chicken khao soi and salmon) I imagine the photos will come in very shortly.
The drink menu is unchanged
.So in short, there are Rotations A, B and C, meals shuffle between the rotations on a monthly basis with swaps between inbound and outbound between these months. LGW has slight difference I think since there is an ALC meal in the wiki which doesn't fit into this, but it may be Rotation B.
The starter for inbound to London (duck breast) is the main salad on the short menus at least.
May 2, 2017, 8:22 am
#839
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 61
One menu for an entire month? I can imagine some frequent flyers getting rapidly very bored, although to be fair BA seems to have pushed some of the better meals forward.
Would the menus for the SPMLs also follow the same pattern?
Would the menus for the SPMLs also follow the same pattern?
May 2, 2017, 8:29 am
#840
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corporate-wage-slave, do you have any idea why it says 876A on the menu on the left? I am on 876 in June and look forward to the new catering.
