Apr 16, 2017, 1:12 pm
Last edit by: corporate-wage-slave
Club Europe Catering Guide 2017.
This thread outlines the new arrangements for Club Europe catering, introduced on Sunday 26 March 2017 and due to end on Tuesday 11 September 2018, based on 3 zones. A new Club Europe catering product is due to be launch on Wednesday 12 September 2018, and this is based on 4 bands. The main information piece - in terms of timings and the distance zones for the meals can be found in post 1. The following cross references the photos below against the matrix of options. In addition to the photos, some FTers have written extensively on their experiences so there is more to this thread than the pictures. Also note that there was an increase in food offered on some combinations shortly after the start-up, so the more recent photos may be the best place to start.The previous shorthaul catering guide, now locked but which had the previous 4 band system, is to be found here.
Numbers relate to the post number. Vegetarian means the alternative option provided as standard rather than the pre-ordered versions - which are VLML (Lacto-ovo), AVML (Asia) and VGML (Vegan) . There are differences between the offering in/out of LHR, LGW, LCY+STN. Last update: 833
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Note posts before 1-832 are typically the April 2017 menu. 833 and above is from the menu for May 2017.
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Chef's Chat sheets for:
CE LHR Summer 2017 - Rotation A
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28338151-post954.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28339641-post958.html
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Short Band (UK, France, Ireland, BeNeLux, Germany)
Breakfast: 279, 570 (vegetarian), 629, 674, 821 (Express breakfast for MAN and LBA), 1343 (Vegan), 2285 (Express for LBA and MAN), 2445
Brunch: 180, 289, 469, 563, 685, 716, 2625 (AVML)
Lunch: 207, 545 (diabetic), 644 (first photo), 680 (VLML), 802, 928, 1322 (Kosher), 2284
Afternoon tea: 339, 404 (vegetarian), 480, 600 (VLML), 710 (including low lactose), 800, 882 (gluten free), 1281, 1322 (Kosher), 1673, 2679 (Kosher), 2792
Dinner: 563, 630 (VGML), 669 (Kosher Passover), 771 (VGML LCY) 799, 819 (AVML), 833 (May 2017 menu), 1283, 1287, 1674, 2446, 2616 (Kosher), 2793
Comments on difference between AVML and VLML here.
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Medium Band (e.g. Madrid, Nice, Prague, Copenhagen)
Breakfast: 645 (vegetarian), 724 (vegetarian), 1003
Brunch: 199 (VLML), 600 (VLML), 659 (Kosher Passover)
Lunch: 239 (child), 251, 425, 641, 733
Afternoon tea: 332 (also includes vegetarian), 426 (GFML), 813 (Muslim)
Dinner: 456, 551 (also includes VLML), 666, 1004,
1278
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Long Band (e.g. Lisbon, Rome, Warsaw, Stockholm).
Breakfast: 195 (vegetarian)
Rest of the day: 306 (LFML), 345, 427, 443, 468, 597, 676, 687, 695, 783 (VLML)
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NOT MAINTAINED AND OUT OF DATE: The complete Short Haul meal structure for the longer flights as of October 2017 is:
LHR
Meal 1: Chicken / red pepper risotto
Meal 2: Beef cheek
Meal 3: Chicken supreme / gnocchi
Meal 4: Miso glazed cod
Meal 5: Chicken khao soi
Meal 6: Hot smoked salmon linguine
LGW
Meal 1: Thyme roasted chicken
Meal 2: Spicy corn and paneer masala
Meal 3: Thai Penang chicken curry
Meal 4: Roasted red pepper tortellini
Meal 5: Beef and mushroom caserole
Meal 6: Tomato and four cheeses tortellini
Structured into:
Rotation A
LHR outbound
Meal 3
Meal 4
inbound to LHR
Meal 5
Meal 6
Rotation B
LHR outbound
Meal 5
Meal 6
inbound to LHR
Meal 1
Meal 2
Rotation C
LHR outbound
Meal 1
Meal 2
inbound to LHR
Meal 3
Meal 4
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October 2017 = Rotation C
November 2017 = Rotation A
December 2017 = Rotation B
January 2018 = Rotation C
etc
This thread outlines the new arrangements for Club Europe catering, introduced on Sunday 26 March 2017 and due to end on Tuesday 11 September 2018, based on 3 zones. A new Club Europe catering product is due to be launch on Wednesday 12 September 2018, and this is based on 4 bands. The main information piece - in terms of timings and the distance zones for the meals can be found in post 1. The following cross references the photos below against the matrix of options. In addition to the photos, some FTers have written extensively on their experiences so there is more to this thread than the pictures. Also note that there was an increase in food offered on some combinations shortly after the start-up, so the more recent photos may be the best place to start.The previous shorthaul catering guide, now locked but which had the previous 4 band system, is to be found here.
Numbers relate to the post number. Vegetarian means the alternative option provided as standard rather than the pre-ordered versions - which are VLML (Lacto-ovo), AVML (Asia) and VGML (Vegan) . There are differences between the offering in/out of LHR, LGW, LCY+STN. Last update: 833
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Note posts before 1-832 are typically the April 2017 menu. 833 and above is from the menu for May 2017.
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Chef's Chat sheets for:
CE LHR Summer 2017 - Rotation A
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28338151-post954.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28339641-post958.html
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Short Band (UK, France, Ireland, BeNeLux, Germany)
Breakfast: 279, 570 (vegetarian), 629, 674, 821 (Express breakfast for MAN and LBA), 1343 (Vegan), 2285 (Express for LBA and MAN), 2445
Brunch: 180, 289, 469, 563, 685, 716, 2625 (AVML)
Lunch: 207, 545 (diabetic), 644 (first photo), 680 (VLML), 802, 928, 1322 (Kosher), 2284
Afternoon tea: 339, 404 (vegetarian), 480, 600 (VLML), 710 (including low lactose), 800, 882 (gluten free), 1281, 1322 (Kosher), 1673, 2679 (Kosher), 2792
Dinner: 563, 630 (VGML), 669 (Kosher Passover), 771 (VGML LCY) 799, 819 (AVML), 833 (May 2017 menu), 1283, 1287, 1674, 2446, 2616 (Kosher), 2793
Comments on difference between AVML and VLML here.
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Medium Band (e.g. Madrid, Nice, Prague, Copenhagen)
Breakfast: 645 (vegetarian), 724 (vegetarian), 1003
Brunch: 199 (VLML), 600 (VLML), 659 (Kosher Passover)
Lunch: 239 (child), 251, 425, 641, 733
Afternoon tea: 332 (also includes vegetarian), 426 (GFML), 813 (Muslim)
Dinner: 456, 551 (also includes VLML), 666, 1004,
1278
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Long Band (e.g. Lisbon, Rome, Warsaw, Stockholm).
Breakfast: 195 (vegetarian)
Rest of the day: 306 (LFML), 345, 427, 443, 468, 597, 676, 687, 695, 783 (VLML)
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NOT MAINTAINED AND OUT OF DATE: The complete Short Haul meal structure for the longer flights as of October 2017 is:
LHR
Meal 1: Chicken / red pepper risotto
Meal 2: Beef cheek
Meal 3: Chicken supreme / gnocchi
Meal 4: Miso glazed cod
Meal 5: Chicken khao soi
Meal 6: Hot smoked salmon linguine
LGW
Meal 1: Thyme roasted chicken
Meal 2: Spicy corn and paneer masala
Meal 3: Thai Penang chicken curry
Meal 4: Roasted red pepper tortellini
Meal 5: Beef and mushroom caserole
Meal 6: Tomato and four cheeses tortellini
Structured into:
Rotation A
LHR outbound
Meal 3
Meal 4
inbound to LHR
Meal 5
Meal 6
Rotation B
LHR outbound
Meal 5
Meal 6
inbound to LHR
Meal 1
Meal 2
Rotation C
LHR outbound
Meal 1
Meal 2
inbound to LHR
Meal 3
Meal 4
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October 2017 = Rotation C
November 2017 = Rotation A
December 2017 = Rotation B
January 2018 = Rotation C
etc
Club Europe catering guide
Apr 18, 2017, 10:50 am
#691
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: London
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 570
Menu and the smoked chicken breast from Friday's LHR - ARN (BA 782). Certainly a recognisable improvement in the quality of the food, and the presentation was good too. 9 people in Club - crew had no problem in serving food and drinks efficiently and were very attentive.
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Apr 18, 2017, 11:19 am
#692
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Apr 18, 2017, 2:01 pm
#694
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Glasgow
Programs: BAEC Silver, Sixt Platinum, HHons Diamond
Posts: 927
I enjoyed a Salmon and potato salad on a GLA - LGW flight today. As there were only two rows of CE we were treated to a lovely at seat service with a most attentive crew. A welcome change from two awful euro traveller flights last week where the bob food ran out and the wine was warm. As I struggle to use my avios I think I'll be using them to upgrade all my SH travel in future.
Apr 18, 2017, 2:16 pm
#695
Moderator, Iberia Airlines, Airport Lounges, and Ambassador, British Airways Executive Club
Join Date: Feb 2010
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Posts: 63,726
LHR - MJV (Murcia) - Long - rest of the day meal (BA448 departed at 15:50 hrs). I went for the beef, one of the best meals I've had on a shorthaul service on any airline. I think we can now assume that the "Or" statement on the menu for cheese versus pudding should actually be "And".
Someone did order the Kosher meal, which must have been more substantial than the Medium band ones, the tray was huge, and I believe it had a hot component to it. But I think they decided to accept the standard meal in the end.
Timings [BST] to see the (potential) impact on Medium band meals:
15:50 Left gate T5B38
16:10 Take off from 09R
16:25 Drinks and menus handed out
16:39 Drinks round 2
16:46 Starter tray offered, main meal order taken
17:05 Main plate presented
17:18 Tray removed, tea offered
18:17 Touch down at MJV.
With 16 in CE, 101 passengers in all, A320, 2 crew in CE, 2 for ET. BOB completed before 17:00, Highlife Shop was offered thereafter.
Fully female flight and cabin crew incidentally.
Someone did order the Kosher meal, which must have been more substantial than the Medium band ones, the tray was huge, and I believe it had a hot component to it. But I think they decided to accept the standard meal in the end.
Timings [BST] to see the (potential) impact on Medium band meals:
15:50 Left gate T5B38
16:10 Take off from 09R
16:25 Drinks and menus handed out
16:39 Drinks round 2
16:46 Starter tray offered, main meal order taken
17:05 Main plate presented
17:18 Tray removed, tea offered
18:17 Touch down at MJV.
With 16 in CE, 101 passengers in all, A320, 2 crew in CE, 2 for ET. BOB completed before 17:00, Highlife Shop was offered thereafter.
Fully female flight and cabin crew incidentally.
Apr 18, 2017, 2:20 pm
#696
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: UK
Programs: BA Silver
Posts: 1,137
Had the Kosher meal (passover) yesterday (MAD-LHR), a real gut buster! Didn't envy those getting half a panini!
Apr 18, 2017, 2:25 pm
#697
Moderator, Iberia Airlines, Airport Lounges, and Ambassador, British Airways Executive Club
Join Date: Feb 2010
Programs: BA Lifetime Gold; Flying Blue Life Platinum; LH Sen.; Hilton Diamond; Kemal Kebabs Prized Customer
Posts: 63,726
I suspect that the fruit plate is coming back to breakfast (it is cheaper than the Moma muesli, so I don't think they need much encouragement there!).
Apr 18, 2017, 2:42 pm
#698
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Location: London, UK
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Apr 19, 2017, 1:13 am
#699
Join Date: Mar 2017
Programs: BAEC Bronze
Posts: 388
Hi All,
As promised, here are images/info from my recent holiday LGW - JER.
On the way out I requested Asian Vegetarian, my partner Lacto-Ovo Vegetarian. I was feeling a little self conscious, so didn't take a picture of the meal, but did of the 'dessert'.
It was a late afternoon flight. Both mains were pretty much the same - cold veg salad consisting of boiled potatoes, asparagus, etc. The LOV had pearl mozzarella and half a boiled egg, the AV had instead of that some more potatoes and 'bonus' olives. Was offered bread.
The dessert was as follows:
On the way back, having learned my lesson that I wasn't going to be presented with some exotic curry, I requested the Lacto-Ovo Meal. Our flight was the 'brunch' time slot I believe? Image below. Was offered bread...
I tried very hard not to ask for the cheese off one of the 'standard' meals being handed out
As promised, here are images/info from my recent holiday LGW - JER.
On the way out I requested Asian Vegetarian, my partner Lacto-Ovo Vegetarian. I was feeling a little self conscious, so didn't take a picture of the meal, but did of the 'dessert'.
It was a late afternoon flight. Both mains were pretty much the same - cold veg salad consisting of boiled potatoes, asparagus, etc. The LOV had pearl mozzarella and half a boiled egg, the AV had instead of that some more potatoes and 'bonus' olives. Was offered bread.
The dessert was as follows:
On the way back, having learned my lesson that I wasn't going to be presented with some exotic curry, I requested the Lacto-Ovo Meal. Our flight was the 'brunch' time slot I believe? Image below. Was offered bread...
I tried very hard not to ask for the cheese off one of the 'standard' meals being handed out
Apr 19, 2017, 2:54 am
#700
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Rhineland-Palatinate
Programs: *A Gold (A3), HHonor Gold
Posts: 5,682
The first image is a picture of a CE desert from a special meal ?
Apr 19, 2017, 4:52 am
#702
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Rhineland-Palatinate
Programs: *A Gold (A3), HHonor Gold
Posts: 5,682
#SAD
My niece got the same served at her inter-kindergarten picnic. This is just pathetic, there are no other word for it. I was willing to give a chance to BA after the BAinvestment4U event but with this picture all my will disappear.
I am off to cancel the CE flight I booked and re-booked with the competition. After I have done this I will have 2 BA booking left, all in ET, and that is it. BA will be bottom of my list when it comes to choose carrier. I doubt I will 100% dump them but I will choose them when all other choices are unsuitable.
My niece got the same served at her inter-kindergarten picnic. This is just pathetic, there are no other word for it. I was willing to give a chance to BA after the BAinvestment4U event but with this picture all my will disappear.
I am off to cancel the CE flight I booked and re-booked with the competition. After I have done this I will have 2 BA booking left, all in ET, and that is it. BA will be bottom of my list when it comes to choose carrier. I doubt I will 100% dump them but I will choose them when all other choices are unsuitable.
Apr 19, 2017, 4:59 am
#703
Join Date: May 2007
Location: London, Prague, Dubai
Programs: BA Silver, * Alliance Gold, Emirates Gold AMEX Plat'm, Marriott Titan'm, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 1,127
My usual Sunday night childs meal of chicken nuggets has also been enhanced. Slice of ham and some strong Swiss style cheese. A blob of cream cheese and half a cherry tomato. Not very child like. No Cheese biscuits and no fruit shoot to mix with my fizz
Apr 19, 2017, 5:41 am
#704
Join Date: Sep 2013
Programs: BAEC Gold, EK Skywards (enhanced Blue !), Oman Air Sindbad Gold
Posts: 6,395
The tiny plastic bag of fruit (ŕ la primary schoolchild's lunch box) - 'presented' as dessert and pictured in post #699 - really is rather shameful.
When this all-new and much-hyped CE catering revamp was being designed and sampled (always assuming of course that such a process actually took place), one wonders just what level of manager within the BA bunker looked at the plastic bag, and determined that "yes, that's exactly the standard we want to provide to our most valuable customers, who have routinely paid as much as three or four times the cost of an economy fare in the hope of enjoying a premium experience ......"
When this all-new and much-hyped CE catering revamp was being designed and sampled (always assuming of course that such a process actually took place), one wonders just what level of manager within the BA bunker looked at the plastic bag, and determined that "yes, that's exactly the standard we want to provide to our most valuable customers, who have routinely paid as much as three or four times the cost of an economy fare in the hope of enjoying a premium experience ......"
Apr 19, 2017, 5:46 am
#705
Join Date: May 2014
Location: BRU
Programs: BA GGL, TK E (*G), ITA exec
Posts: 4,072
From someone normally giving packed nuts in CW, I am not surprised at all for the packed fruit in CE.
