Club Europe catering guide

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Club Europe Catering Guide 2017.

This thread outlines the new arrangements for Club Europe catering, introduced on Sunday 26 March 2017 and due to end on Tuesday 11 September 2018, based on 3 zones. A new Club Europe catering product is due to be launch on Wednesday 12 September 2018, and this is based on 4 bands. The main information piece - in terms of timings and the distance zones for the meals can be found in post 1. The following cross references the photos below against the matrix of options. In addition to the photos, some FTers have written extensively on their experiences so there is more to this thread than the pictures. Also note that there was an increase in food offered on some combinations shortly after the start-up, so the more recent photos may be the best place to start.The previous shorthaul catering guide, now locked but which had the previous 4 band system, is to be found here.

Numbers relate to the post number. Vegetarian means the alternative option provided as standard rather than the pre-ordered versions - which are VLML (Lacto-ovo), AVML (Asia) and VGML (Vegan) . There are differences between the offering in/out of LHR, LGW, LCY+STN. Last update: 833
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Note posts before 1-832 are typically the April 2017 menu. 833 and above is from the menu for May 2017.
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Chef's Chat sheets for:
CE LHR Summer 2017 - Rotation A
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28338151-post954.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28339641-post958.html

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Short Band (UK, France, Ireland, BeNeLux, Germany)
Breakfast: 279, 570 (vegetarian), 629, 674, 821 (Express breakfast for MAN and LBA), 1343 (Vegan), 2285 (Express for LBA and MAN), 2445

Brunch: 180, 289, 469, 563, 685, 716, 2625 (AVML)

Lunch: 207, 545 (diabetic), 644 (first photo), 680 (VLML), 802, 928, 1322 (Kosher), 2284


Afternoon tea: 339, 404 (vegetarian), 480, 600 (VLML), 710 (including low lactose), 800, 882 (gluten free), 1281, 1322 (Kosher), 1673, 2679 (Kosher), 2792


Dinner: 563, 630 (VGML), 669 (Kosher Passover), 771 (VGML LCY) 799, 819 (AVML), 833 (May 2017 menu), 1283, 1287, 1674, 2446, 2616 (Kosher), 2793


Comments on difference between AVML and VLML here.
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Medium Band (e.g. Madrid, Nice, Prague, Copenhagen)
Breakfast: 645 (vegetarian), 724 (vegetarian), 1003

Brunch: 199 (VLML), 600 (VLML), 659 (Kosher Passover)

Lunch: 239 (child), 251, 425, 641, 733

Afternoon tea: 332 (also includes vegetarian), 426 (GFML), 813 (Muslim)

Dinner: 456, 551 (also includes VLML), 666, 1004,
1278
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Long Band (e.g. Lisbon, Rome, Warsaw, Stockholm).

Breakfast: 195 (vegetarian)

Rest of the day: 306 (LFML), 345, 427, 443, 468, 597, 676, 687, 695, 783 (VLML)
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NOT MAINTAINED AND OUT OF DATE: The complete Short Haul meal structure for the longer flights as of October 2017 is:

LHR
Meal 1: Chicken / red pepper risotto
Meal 2: Beef cheek
Meal 3: Chicken supreme / gnocchi
Meal 4: Miso glazed cod
Meal 5: Chicken khao soi
Meal 6: Hot smoked salmon linguine

LGW
Meal 1: Thyme roasted chicken
Meal 2: Spicy corn and paneer masala
Meal 3: Thai Penang chicken curry
Meal 4: Roasted red pepper tortellini
Meal 5: Beef and mushroom caserole
Meal 6: Tomato and four cheeses tortellini


Structured into:

Rotation A
LHR outbound
Meal 3
Meal 4
inbound to LHR
Meal 5
Meal 6


Rotation B
LHR outbound
Meal 5
Meal 6
inbound to LHR
Meal 1
Meal 2


Rotation C
LHR outbound
Meal 1
Meal 2
inbound to LHR
Meal 3
Meal 4
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October 2017 = Rotation C
November 2017 = Rotation A
December 2017 = Rotation B
January 2018 = Rotation C
etc
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Old Nov 28, 17, 11:33 am
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Right. I have to agree with the Medium Band people. Frankly, it is hardly any different from a Short - and is inadequate. I flew LGW - BLQ and the choice was a Mozzarella panini or a chicken salad. We had one of each and I got to taste them both. The Panini was fairly bland - (why don't they serve a slice of Pizza?) and the chicken was delicious. However, it was eaten in about four mouthfuls.I had the duck on the way home.Again it was very tasty, and we had had an excellent lunch so I was not particularly hungry which was just as well!

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Outbound LGW - SVQ Fri 24th Nov 2017


Starter


VLML - Indian curry. Lots of it.
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Old Nov 28, 17, 12:04 pm
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On my recent (26th Nov) BA851 flight from Warsaw to Heathrow I managed to get menus for outbound and inbound rotations:

Rotation A for Heathrow outbound flights:


Rotation A for Heathrow inbound flights:
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Old Nov 28, 17, 12:19 pm
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Starter / dessert / cheese plate inbound to London Gatwick from Seville on Sun 26 Nov 17.


Main course (cannelloni). This was the veg option and was very tasty.
The starter just looks embarrassingly bad.
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Old Nov 28, 17, 12:43 pm
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From my recent trip to Warsaw (click on images for higher resolution).

BA846 LHR-WAW breakfast



Scrambled eggs were inedible.

BA851 WAW-LHR dinner





I am not a fan of the duck starter... and this one was disappointing too. On the other hand Chicken Tikka Masala was delicious!
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The starter just looks embarrassingly bad.
I must admit that it seemed a bit odd to have double cheese as courses of the meal. The cabin crew couldn't really tell what it was when I asked her. There was one printed menu and the CSM had it. They seemed rather anxious to serve the cabin swiftly as it was 8 rows and rammed.
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Fish pie inbound from TLL on Mon 20th Nov
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Old Nov 28, 17, 2:41 pm
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VLML starter, dessert and cheese outbound from LHR to TLL on 17th Nov


VLML main course from LHR to TLL on 17th Nov
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A few surprises on the 787-9 back from Madrid last week, booked as a little holiday treat for my parents. Aside from the rather uninspiring combo of chicken panini with side order of bread roll, the crew had to seriously limit their drink serving due to very low stocks. There was only a couple of spare seats, and, with only one bottle of champagne available for the whole cabin, that didn't make it much past the first row. All wine ran out half way through dinner, and we were down to soft drinks and the odd bottle of tanqueray for the last hour of the flight. Lots of moans from people around us, though with me and my parents being big gin drinkers, we survived with aplomb.

I spoke to the crew about the situation in the galley, and they put the blame on the outbound passengers for working through most of the alcohol, and the company for not calibrating stock levels to the size of the aircraft. Their claim was that they had the same number of bottles as would have been available on an A320. Both of those points sounded a little off to me. Still, the plane wasn't swapped for a short-haul aircraft at the last minute, and my parents loved every moment of their first ever experience in business class - aside from the slightly terrifying initial feeling of lying fully flat on an airplane seat, which I vaguely remember from my own first time and that helped to give some perspective to matters!
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A B789 has 42 seats in Business, which corresponds to 10.5 rows of Club on an A320. I've seen 10, 11 and 12 rows in the past on A320s. The size of the aircraft doesn't really matter here, does it?
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Old Nov 29, 17, 3:06 am
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Originally Posted by florens View Post
A B789 has 42 seats in Business, which corresponds to 10.5 rows of Club on an A320. I've seen 10, 11 and 12 rows in the past on A320s. The size of the aircraft doesn't really matter here, does it?
Indeed, and I presumed that there would be some calibration between the number of passengers booked and the amount of stock loaded. Or perhaps I'm being overly optimistic about how BA's logistics operate? Quite a difference meeting the needs of 4 or 5 people in CE and having to serve almost 10 times as many.
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Apologies for taking so long to post these - it has been a busy week so far!

I ended up with the following meals:

25 Nov - LHR LUX - 0735 DEP - Vegetarian Vegan



25 Nov - LUX LHR - 1045 DEP - Low Lactose



25 Nov - LHR GLA - 1505 DEP - Kosher


25 Nov - GLA LHR - 1750 DEP - Normal
I had to take an earlier flight instead of the last flight because my meeting got cancelled so I only had the normal offering on board and no SPML.


26 Nov - LHR LUX - 0805 DEP - Vegetarian Hindu


26 Nov - LUX LHR - 1115 DEP - Kosher


26 Nov - LUX LHR - 1115 DEP - Normal



For better pictures go to this link: https://aedad.es/2017/11/29/british-...ries-nov-2017/

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Also the reason why I had two meals on the BA417 on 26 NOV - when I unsealed the kosher meal, not really sure why but my nose disagreed with the smell and I was about to throw up! I asked for an M&S bacon roll but the awesome CSD insisted that I have the duck salad first and 2 chocolate cake thingies then I can pay for the bacon roll if I still wanted it.
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Indeed, and I presumed that there would be some calibration between the number of passengers booked and the amount of stock loaded. Or perhaps I'm being overly optimistic about how BA's logistics operate? Quite a difference meeting the needs of 4 or 5 people in CE and having to serve almost 10 times as many.
Drinks? Yes, it's standard loadings per type and route, not altered for loadings.
Food is very delicately balanced according to projected load.
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Chicken and Tomato Panini - Still not sure if I like it or not...! LHR-EDI


Chicken Salad - not much salad - more like antipasti - EDI-LHR
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