Am I valuable to BA?
#16
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Those three girls that had the plane to themselves were probably high on the list of the most valuable to BA in recent months. The positive press they received made them far more powerful than any single flyer, with very few exceptions maybe.
That's what you need to aim for if you want to be "loved" by BA!
That's what you need to aim for if you want to be "loved" by BA!
#18
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Everybody has some value and some cost. The question is whether a given customer's costs outweigh their value.
People who book online, do OLCI, don't check bags and don't otherwise impinge on expensive services which require human intervention, are quite profitable even if they do not have very heavy spends.
The issue on FT is that people believe that all of this ought to translate into extensive personal service, lounges, multiple choice meals on short-haul flights and the like. That it won't. BA knows that this may mean a few passengers lost to someone else, but perhaps not.
In the long run, BA can't fill it's aircraft with corporate contract passengers. But, on the other hand, the days of pampering most people and providing indivual service on the phone and the like, are simply over.
That doesn't directly answer the "valuable" question, but everything is relative.
People who book online, do OLCI, don't check bags and don't otherwise impinge on expensive services which require human intervention, are quite profitable even if they do not have very heavy spends.
The issue on FT is that people believe that all of this ought to translate into extensive personal service, lounges, multiple choice meals on short-haul flights and the like. That it won't. BA knows that this may mean a few passengers lost to someone else, but perhaps not.
In the long run, BA can't fill it's aircraft with corporate contract passengers. But, on the other hand, the days of pampering most people and providing indivual service on the phone and the like, are simply over.
That doesn't directly answer the "valuable" question, but everything is relative.
#20
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Maybe this isn't the place for my first comment but this conversation reminded me of the old saying at BA. When I worked there in the old days they used to remind everyone that Economy passengers were BA's bread and butter. Business was the jam and First class was the cream. In the bad times the bread and butter keeps you going.
So yes, how ever many trips you make you should be important.
So yes, how ever many trips you make you should be important.
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Maybe this isn't the place for my first comment but this conversation reminded me of the old saying at BA. When I worked there in the old days they used to remind everyone that Economy passengers were BA's bread and butter. Business was the jam and First class was the cream. In the bad times the bread and butter keeps you going.
So yes, how ever many trips you make you should be important.
So yes, how ever many trips you make you should be important.
#22
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As a consumer it's most certainly what should be uppermost on your mind when purchasing a product, not just an airline ticket.
If the product is seen to continually disappoint then I would have thought you'd have to be crazy to keep going back for more. Yet evidence shows people do.
If the product is seen to continually disappoint then I would have thought you'd have to be crazy to keep going back for more. Yet evidence shows people do.
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As a consumer it's most certainly what should be uppermost on your mind when purchasing a product, not just an airline ticket.
If the product is seen to continually disappoint then I would have thought you'd have to be crazy to keep going back for more. Yet evidence shows people do.
If the product is seen to continually disappoint then I would have thought you'd have to be crazy to keep going back for more. Yet evidence shows people do.
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#25
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To be fair to the OP he didn't suggest he was important to BA, just curious what his worth was.
BA carries around 45 million passengers a year. Your three trips makes you six "passengers" - so you are about a 6/45 millionth worth to BA.
BA operating profit (in 2015) was USD1.9 billion - so you accounted for around USD250 of that. Not a lot really.
BA carries around 45 million passengers a year. Your three trips makes you six "passengers" - so you are about a 6/45 millionth worth to BA.
BA operating profit (in 2015) was USD1.9 billion - so you accounted for around USD250 of that. Not a lot really.
A pittance.
#26
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In an ideal corporate culture, every customer is valuable to BA. Every bum on their seats could well be an opportunity to turn that into a even better valued customer. However that's clearly not the case and extremely challenging to achieve in such a large business.
But as a CEO that would be my message to staff across the business. So the optmist in me would say yes to your question, however the cynical, realist understands that you're very much a drop in an ocean sadly. I like the bread & butter analogy mentioned above.
I only fly as much as you suggest and would like to see that increase soon as I do love BA (pre-BOB) therefore I would like to continue flying with them in the future. Hopefully the staff will continue to make us feel as valued as they currently do and as much as the can under circumstances. They do a great job.
Surely that value matters more than BA/IAG/Shareholders if that's who you were referring to?!!
But as a CEO that would be my message to staff across the business. So the optmist in me would say yes to your question, however the cynical, realist understands that you're very much a drop in an ocean sadly. I like the bread & butter analogy mentioned above.
I only fly as much as you suggest and would like to see that increase soon as I do love BA (pre-BOB) therefore I would like to continue flying with them in the future. Hopefully the staff will continue to make us feel as valued as they currently do and as much as the can under circumstances. They do a great job.
Surely that value matters more than BA/IAG/Shareholders if that's who you were referring to?!!